DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
He's often sent to places that need fixing... Is there an actual quote saying he's the go-to guy for restoring order? There'd be an awful lot of fixing up to be doing in the last few years for the Empire.
"I'm originally from Cyrodiil, sent here at the request of the Emperor himself. I'm often ordered to places with problems that need fixing. Now, while I'm certain this is all terribly interesting to you, I have important matters to attend."
The Empire (and Hammerfell) blocking them, that and a field of ice (something High Elves from Alinor don't have a lot of experience with). Impractical for the Thalmor to spend that much time up there with no base of operations, not to mention they probably wouldn't even take an independent Skyrim seriously anyway. Ulfric takes the Thalmor very seriously. He fears them, and therefore will take whatever steps he can to combat them.
The Thalmor don't like their plans being messed. They will take whoever wins, very seriously. They don't need to invade, just cause disruptions. Imagine if the Forsworn suddenly were given good weapons and gear. Or bandits funded massively.
The Thalmor have only ever used direct force once. Not sure why Stormcloaks assume they will try invade with an army. In any event, they're blocked by the Empire's Military.
Of course it's not impossible, but the losses would far out weigh the gains. I'm not saying rebuilding won't be hard for the Stormcloaks. At least it will be led by people who will be prioritizing it ahead of anything else.
So the Jarls won't be prioritizing their lands? The Empire doesn't simply rule everything directly.
It's not just the terms of the WGC, it's the very notion of agreeing to it in the first place. First of all its essentially a surrender, not something generally smiled on in a culture who's paradise is reached by dying in battle. Secondly, it showed the Empire was willing to trade away the freedom of its subjects. Not agreeing or disagreeing with these but that is how the Nords view it.
Empire was only willing after four years of war, and the loss of three entire Legions + every other Legion under half strength. The Nord view is selfish, better that a few thousand warriors die in combat so that the hundreds of thousands of civilians be enslaved.
Because going to war is so new for the Nords right? The whole country would grind to a halt because they're off invading someone?
Going to war after a Civil War is new. The Empire didn't fund the war effort in Skyrim. Tullius used Skyrim's resources, Ulfric used Skyrim's resources. You Stormcloaks can barely keep order in Windhelm, don't have the manpower to investigate a murder. Majority of your ranks are from the Eastern Holds, you're spread thin. If war was to break out right after, to even scrape together an invasion force which most resources will have to be diverted to supply... You have to abandon Skyrim's protection.
If it were that simple they would've gone to war a long time ago. Lots more to it than "the legions are in position."
No they wouldn't. They were dealing with issues in Cyrodiil or many years. You're also assuming Titus Mede is willing to take action.
"Seems the Emperor realized his presence would necessitate a more direct role in the ongoing hostilities. A role he was, obviously, unwilling to take."
I doubt it's more than just a few Imperials with a complete lack of knowledge or respect for Nordic customs.
"Without us to keep order, the provinces would fall into barbarism and lawlessness; especially Skyrim."
A description of an obviously well respected and appreciated ally right there.
"The Legion's always been here. Without us to keep order, the provinces would fall into barbarism and lawlessness. Especially Skyrim. Take for example, Ulfric Stormcloak and his little "rebellion".
Tullius has never been to Skyrim, and respect is earned. If Tullius is a Colovian, it isn't surprising he has little respect for them at first. You Stormcloaks go on about how the Dunmer have to earn your respect, but bitch and moan because you're not handed respect by Tullius.
"Can't say I'll ever get used to the damn cold, or understand these Nords... but I've come to respect them. The harshness of Skyrim has a way of carving a man down to his true self."
He comes to respect you. Show me one respectful thing you Stormcloaks say about another province? Or any other race for that matter?
Stormcloaks:
Skyrim, Hammerfell, and Valenwood. One third of Tamriel. No attempts at reclaiming lost parts. All in half the time of the entire Septim dynasty.
Empire was attempting to gain Valenwood. They were supporting and funding rebels, had some of their own men inside Valenwood also. The Thalmor were just better.
Only the Stormcloaks seek to leave the Empire, not Skyrim. Wouldn't be a Civil War otherwise.
Stormcloaks =/= Skyrim.
It's not like it was the Empire giving Hammerfell the boot. Hammerfell wouldn't be a part of an Empire under the Concordat. If anything they broke off.
Titus II was forced to officially renounce Hammerfell as an Imperial province in order to preserve the hard-won peace treaty. The Redguards, understandably, looked on this as a betrayal.
Hammerfell wouldn't accept the peace, but they were forced out.
Wouldn't matter, she would end up being a puppet of the Empire for likely the remainder of her reign, with Tullius remaining in Skyrim.
She's the only Jarl that doesn't change. Tullius is only remaining in Skyrim for a few years, and it is Rikke who gets put as the de facto ruler under Imperial victory for awhile.
"Let's have parade!" Couldve been another you might of wanted to throw in there.
I said there is hope for her, not that she is perfect.
"Steward, I have an idea that might help to bolster the morale of our people in this difficult time. I think we shall have a grand parade, and let General Tullius march his troops from the Blue Palace to Castle Dour in all their finery."
Last edited: