Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
Nature matters to me yes.. And so do animals since they are a very part of that nature...
Do you eat meat?
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Nature matters to me yes.. And so do animals since they are a very part of that nature...
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Okay. Calming down.What do you know about their diets?No offense but there's no reason to be mad.. Calm down.. Just zennnn
I know that some fighters say they switched to vegetarianism or veganism, and hey feel healthier. I'm willing to accept that as truth. You, apparently, are not. You said they ate crap before when you don't know that, and you said they aren't true vegetarians when you don't know that.
Panthera
Don Gato
I wanted to say that previous case, picture with 2 51 year old woman (which shows obvious diffrence) have more sense than showing young fit guy. Btw what you just wrote down sounded like a pill colection, not food to enjoy in it.
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
I think you get me wrong; probably my fault. Since I'm no native English speaker I struggle explaining my thoughts. I do believe, honestly, they feel better eating vegetables. But every single body is different. I ate vegetarian for a whole week and basically lived on my toilet...
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Well plants can taste good too. And you provided one example of a 51 year old vegan lady. If you want I can find another for you.
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
Don't start doing that people,
I'm sure there are enough people, carnivore or herbivore, who are healthy. That's a game with no ending...
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Sorry to hear that. You sure you balanced your diet?
Docta Corvina
Well-Known Member
Fact is our prehistoric ancestors were hunters and gatherers. We consumed vegetation as well as meat that we tracked and killed and dragged back to our caves and settlements. I understand where vegetarians/vegans argue that this is no longer prehistory and that with time, other options have manifested or been made more obvious for intake of protein. I can understand where it can become a moral or even religious question for some people. I can respect that, though I would ask the same respect for my choice to eat meat.
I don't hardly claim to be a savant when it comes to human health and all of the nuances of it. In my own experience (which will inevitably differ from that of others), the debate is ongoing as far as the "necessity" of meat eating, when it comes to the nutrients found in animal flesh. But I certainly don't think it's a horrible expectation that humans will consume meat and fish and poultry, as long as it is so readily available. Should we eat less red meat? Absolutely. Should we try to curb overfishing and destruction of eco zones? Absolutely. Should we do better about providing more humane conditions for the animals we raise for consumption? Absolutely. There are nature-conscious things we can and ought to do, despite being consumers of such material. Perhaps, even, because we are consumers. We should be more responsible.
I don't hardly claim to be a savant when it comes to human health and all of the nuances of it. In my own experience (which will inevitably differ from that of others), the debate is ongoing as far as the "necessity" of meat eating, when it comes to the nutrients found in animal flesh. But I certainly don't think it's a horrible expectation that humans will consume meat and fish and poultry, as long as it is so readily available. Should we eat less red meat? Absolutely. Should we try to curb overfishing and destruction of eco zones? Absolutely. Should we do better about providing more humane conditions for the animals we raise for consumption? Absolutely. There are nature-conscious things we can and ought to do, despite being consumers of such material. Perhaps, even, because we are consumers. We should be more responsible.
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
It was part of a project
so I trusted my cooks to know what they were doing, haha.A week ago I finished a 3 week project about the meat industry. I truly know what you mean and of course you are right in one way. But there are so many other ways I also have to think of
I thought this was a thread to discuss, civilly, on if you are a vegetarian, vegan, or meat eater. Not to get angry over people's opinions or start a who looks fittest picture war. I thought this would a "Hey, I'm a vegan because..." type of thread.
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
That's what I had planned. It kinda escalated.
Panthera
Don Gato
That's true.
But I kinda find people who give too much attention on their vegeterian or vegan diet, very weird. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against vegeterians or vegans... eat what your heart (stomach) desire. But most of them that I met I find them really weird... I mean their way of life.
People have opinions. You can't control that. But we can control how we react over the opinion of someone else. Please take this into consideration people. I understand people love to debate or argue and things like that. But there is no reason why we can't be friendly when doing so.
Let's try to steer this conversation back on topic. Or not. Up to you all. I take my leave now.
Let's try to steer this conversation back on topic. Or not. Up to you all. I take my leave now.
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
Imagine; You have dinner and eat vegetables and meat. 24 hours later, when you go to the toilet, you will see that meat was digested best and there is still 'evidence' (lol) of vegetables in your bowel... That's because our stomach wasn't meant for vegetables in the first place.
If I'm correct a cow has 4 stomachs to digest all that green stuff I could be wrong. Just tell me if I am
If I'm correct a cow has 4 stomachs to digest all that green stuff
I could be wrong. Just tell me if I am FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
I've never noticed any trouble with my number twos. As for meat, why don't you see how well that chicken comes out after eating it raw, fresh off the bird?Imagine; You have dinner and eat vegetables and meat. 24 hours later, when you go to the toilet, you will see that meat was digested best and there is still 'evidence' (lol) of vegetables in your bowel... That's because our stomach wasn't meant for vegetables in the first place.
If I'm correct a cow has 4 stomachs to digest all that green stuff
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
Thousands of years ago people started cooking meat because they discovered it tasted better and was easier to eat. Which brings us to evolution one more time: our body adapted itself to cooked meat. And because of that we can't stand raw meat nowadays...
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
It appears people misunderstand my position. I love meat. I was raised for nearly 21 years with it as part of my diet. But I'm of the opinion that those cows need the steaks I've been eating just a bit more than I do. And when I considered just how well I'd do hunting like a tiger...well, switching seemed like the thing to do.
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
So cutting out meat is unnatural, but unnatural methods of producing and eating meat is fine?
Anouck
Queen of Procrastination
Don't make it so complicated
there are so many things unnaturel: skyrim is unnaturel, airplanes are unnaturel the internet is unnaturel, your house is unnaturel. So you are actually very unnaturel right now
So do I and all the other people on this forum..I just say the food chain was created by nature and I believe in nature. So yes, I do eat meat. Of course I also think it tastes good but that's not the only reason >>> It's naturel <<<
The way we produce vegetables is unnaturel too. I hope you know that...
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Yes, I realize that. It's just if we need to spend an hour grilling and seasoning our meat, that should tell us something.
