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Lol? And the Empire wouldn't be united with the stormcloaks?The Dominion would have the better advantage and win the war within a few weeks. If there's any chance of defeating the Dominion it's with a united and strong Empire.
Lol? And the Empire wouldn't be united with the stormcloaks?The Dominion would have the better advantage and win the war within a few weeks. If there's any chance of defeating the Dominion it's with a united and strong Empire.
That's because you messed up Elewens party. What do you expect would happen?
Probably not. The AD isn't that powerful. And according to Altmer accounts, not as wide spread or as heavily numbered as might think. The Medic Empire was just weak. Redguards kicked them out of Hammerfell single handedly (and they were warring amongst themselves as well). Hell, Mede II almost fought em back, but was weak and conceded to the original terms, even though he would have wiped out the Thalmor/AD.That wouldn't be practical. Both sides would be weakened by war while the Dominion would already be prepared and ready for it. The Dominion are also powerful sorcerers, have the Khajiit with them who expertise with stealth, and the Bosmer who expertise in stealth and arhcery. The Dominion would have the better advantage and win the war within a few weeks. If there's any chance of defeating the Dominion it's with a united and strong Empire.
Lol? And the Empire wouldn't be united with the stormcloaks?
Probably not. The AD isn't that powerful. And according to Altmer accounts, not as wide spread or as heavily numbered as might think. The Medic Empire was just weak. Redguards kicked them out of Hammerfell single handedly.
I never said Redguards kicked out the Empire. And yes, Redguards kicked out the Thalmor/AD from Hammerfell, by themselves. Fought them so hard, they called for peace and were kicked from the lands. The Empire was basically winning the war at that point (little before actually), but Mede II was weak. So yeah, everything I've said stands.
They were kicked out. They wanted Hammerfell, they invaded Hammerfell, after many battles (that we know about from the Great war) Hammerfell was left to fend for themselves after Mede's II acceptance of Thalmor terms. Thalmor fought in Hammerfell, Redguards prevailed to the point that peace was offered, and thus were kicked from the Island. Doesn't matter what a Dagmar thinks, he's a nobody in terms of Lore expertise. I however am a lore master, and the lore gods and powers that be have no qualm with the expression kicked from Hammerfell. So any thought refuting that doesn't really matter.Yes, my bad I forgot to take the first paragraph out. But no, what Dagmar says is more believable and supported by facts from the game lore so I'm choosing to believe they didn't drive them out themselves.
Nope, what I'm implying is in fact what happened, according to the Empire. After a fail attempt to take Hammerfell, they sued for peace and were kicked from the server.they weren't 'driven' out. they let themselves out after losing battles and signing a treaty. xarnac, what you're implying is that hammerfell fought the dominion farther and farther back until they ran away scared. that's not what happened. they left because of the treaty. yes, hammerfell put up a good fight, but they did not just beat them back until they fled, the conflict was ended diplomatically.
They were kicked out. They wanted Hammerfell, they invaded Hammerfell, after many battles (that we know about from the Great war) Hammerfell was left to fend for themselves after Mede's II acceptance of Thalmor terms. Thalmor fought in Hammerfell, Redguards prevailed to the point that peace was offered, and thus were kicked from the Island. Doesn't matter what a Dagmar thinks, he's a nobody in terms of Lore expertise. I however am a lore master, and the lore gods and powers that be have no qualm with the expression kicked from Hammerfell. So any thought refuting that doesnt really matter.
It's known by the masters, Thalmor were driven from Hammerfell. It's not an argument, it is fact (to Imperials at least) based on the accounts from A Concise Account of the Great War Between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. Thalmor wanted Hammerfell from the previous Concord, they were fought to the point that they could do nothing but sue for a peace that left them kicked from Hammerfell. (They to this day receive crap and hostility from Hammerfell, and towards Cyrods for that matter). Whether by literal force in the beginning, or by diplomacy, they were kicked from Hammerfell.Lol, Dagmar's a lady for one, as seen in her profile picture, and two she seems to know her lore better than you judging by her post compared to yours which I'm sure you've never seen and are just saying pl*** out of your ass to sound like the right one in this argument. So, I think imma keep believing Dagmar's counterargument to this as opposed to yours. Unless you can come up with something better than what you've been trying to use so far. So until then good day, sir.
It's known by the masters, Thalmor were driven from Hammerfell. It's not an argument, it is fact (to Imperials at least) based on the accounts from A Concise Account of the Great War Between the Empire and the Aldmeri Dominion. Thalmor wanted Hammerfell from the previous Concord, they were fought to the point that they could do nothing but sue for a peace that left them kicked from Hammerfell. Whether by literal force in the beginning, or by diplomacy, they were kicked from Hammerfell. Then there is the fact that it has no context to what I was originally questioning with my first quoting of you. So, were you going to make a point yet, or not?
Dagmar could be the magical hermaphrodite Vivec for all I care, never heard the name in regard to any lore related forums of merit.
You had no point. My first reply was vague in that sense, and never said that the Redguards stopped the invasion, just that they kicked the Thalmor from Hammerfell, which they did. And single handedly as the Empire did not help Hammerfell in the last five years. See some of my edit above. All my posts stand. You still haven't refuted my real point though, that the whole Empire wouldn't just cave in after a week or two. Did you even read my whole first post?My point has already been made. You said the Redguards fought them singlehandedly which they didn't as I've already said. This post isn't even relevant to what you were originally stating, you're basically just giving a summary of how the war in Hammerfell went. And how could Dagmar be a nobody compared to you when she's been around longer and has far more post than you. I've also seen her countless times in threads regarding lore.
You had no point. My first reply was vague in that sense, and never said that the Redguards stopped the invasion, just that they kicked the Thalmor from Hammerfell, which they did. And single handedly as the Empire did not help Hammerfell in the last five years. See some of my edit above. All my posts stand. You still haven't refuted my real point though, that the whole Empire wouldn't just cave in after a week or two. Did you even read my whole first post?
More posts on an official forum, or on the IL? Who is Dagmar on IL?
The Empire is from Cyrodiil, not skyrim. The Empire just wants to control skyrim. And the reason why talos is banned is because the empire couldn't stand up to the Dominion, during the Great war i think. And the next time the Empire is going to be "strong" probably won't be for a while. I said that they SHOULD, not that they will.All you could argue with is "Lol?" and something irrelevant to what I was saying? Obviously they wouldn't be united with the Stormcloaks, I'm glad you figured that one out. When I said that the Dominion could only be defeated with a strong and united Empire I meant with Skyrim being part of the Empire again and preparing for another war with the Dominion instead of fighting amongst themselves. It really doesn't take a genius to figure out what I was implying.
I never said I was better than her, I just wondered who Dagmar was, and question their lore credibility. I couldn't care less about her in the end though. No offence Dagmar. The Red's drove em out single handedly. If the Reds alone can do it, so could the remaining factions if so desired. And wouldn't cave within a week or two.I have no idea what IL means but how about you just look up the person instead of trying to tell me you're better than them. And yes I did have a point as I've already said you had said the Redguards drove out the Dominion singlehandedly, which they didn't and I agrued back with Dagmar's post which states that the Empire had part in the Dominion being drove out. And yes I did read the whole post that you made before you edited which I will hold to.