DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
Nearly every Thalmor that has a name dies. Leave your name tags at home it seems.
Should be interesting in the next war when they invade the Aldmeri Dominion, we'll see how well the Thalmor hold up when facing the Legions on the attack.
Thalmor seek to rule all of Tamriel, not wipe out all races. They do want lesser creatures as a lower class.
About what Igmund has said, it's probably true. Chances are shortly after the Civil War is concluded and Empire is without an Emperor, they'll make their move. Cyrodil having it's forces on it's Southern border is just fine... however unwise. A smarter move would be to have your forces scattered but mobile to react faster. If the Thalmor do something to kill a large portion of the Legions on the border, then things will go to hell in a big fl*ffing hurry.
Another thing, I remember the brief time I was a Stormcloak, I thought about how all the other Provinces stepped up *together* to defend Skyrim's honor and in the end, it cost them horribly. And now that everyone is on bad times economically/politically from that act, rather than help and return the favor, Ulfric wants Skyrim to leave. That's low. That's... I can understand why but *damn* that takes alot of nerve. It'd be like me saving your life when I could have just walked away and then getting beat up horribly for it, then time comes around later on, and you just leave me to get beaten and killed because you don't like to fight for someone else.
We don't know whether the Jar Theory is pure fiction or maybe partly correct.
Either way, extermination can always follow oppression/enslavement. I also wonder how Black Marsh reacts to an advancing Dominion, after all you can even find an Argonian in Northwatch Keep.
To be honest, I think Ulfric's scared. Scared of loosing it all to the Dominion because if the Empire goes down or decides to let them down like they did with Hammerfell and his own militia, they'd be screwed. But it's far too late to just go away and turn back. The Nords did their part in the 'First War against the Empire', it can't be undone, and what's even less possible is to un-make their humanity which the Thalmor seem to hate the most, more than beastraces even (except for the cats).
Hell, it's been about 30 years in peace, everything was quiet and the Empire was getting back on its feet, and neither Skyrim or Cyrodiil has the luxury of insecurity - or choice at that point - anymore. Either they fight or they die.
NENALATA said: ↑
About what Igmund has said, it's probably true. Chances are shortly after the Civil War is concluded and Empire is without an Emperor, they'll make their move. Cyrodil having it's forces on it's Southern border is just fine... however unwise. A smarter move would be to have your forces scattered but mobile to react faster. If the Thalmor do something to kill a large portion of the Legions on the border, then things will go to hell in a big fl*ffing hurry.Trouble is the Empire is already flooded with Thalmor spies, assassins, and what other agents they may have. And when there's a Legion waiting, you can perfectly prepare yourself and wait for the right moment. Being on alert all night and day without something happening can get to a soldiers' moral, they become restless and after a while maybe not even care... until the strike comes.
It just depends on how much manpower the Dominion has. And that's up for speculation because there's no information given. Nothing at all except for a few tiny scraps of NPC dialogue based on rumors themselves.
Think you got the mettle aye? All can join the Legion.
"The Nord kings - oh, excuse me, "Jarls" - they can't seem to control their own people. So the Legion has stepped in to keep order."
"Our mission is to serve the Emperor, uphold the law, and protect the citizenry.
You know... I just read about the history of Talos and the Empire and... that dude was a real Monster. Seriously. And I have a great deal of sympathy for the Daggerfall people because the Second Empire you guys are dying for will end up massacring your country under Talos.
I hate to say it but the only really sane option is the Aldmeri Dominion. Like when Talos *aborted* his love child from Barenziah. His political career was more important to him than the life of his unborn child. Abusing his authority, he forced some Healer Mage to cause Barenziah to miscarry. This person had to go against their own ethics and profession to murder an innocent child for the 'Emperor'. And then Talos kicked her a$$ to the curb afterwards. This is evil and is not worthy of God-hood. EVER.
And to think some people worshiped this 'man' as a God. No wonder the Empire has so many problems these days.
Definitely Imperials, even though Ulfric protests that his cause is true and that he's acting on Skyrims best interests, there's outstanding evidence to prove he's just a selfish tyrant set on his own goals. I agree that signing the White Gold Concordat wasn't the Empires most popular decision among the Nords but without it the Empire would have been overthrown and the Nords would have been left defenseless from the Dominions armies. If only Skyrim and the other continents could work together to face the Dominion, maybe then we would have a chance.
NENALATA said: ↑
You know... I just read about the history of Talos and the Empire and... that dude was a real Monster. Seriously. And I have a great deal of sympathy for the Daggerfall people because the Second Empire you guys are dying for will end up massacring your country under Talos.Breton and Nord nobles feared the Colovian King and his undefeatable General so they invaded Cyrodiil. They started the conflict, so you have sympathy for those who start a war and then lose? Biased opinion.
NENALATA said: ↑
I hate to say it but the only really sane option is the Aldmeri Dominion. Like when Talos *aborted* his love child from Barenziah. His political career was more important to him than the life of his unborn child. Abusing his authority, he forced some Healer Mage to cause Barenziah to miscarry. This person had to go against their own ethics and profession to murder an innocent child for the 'Emperor'. And then Talos kicked her a$$ to the curb afterwards. This is evil and is not worthy of God-hood. EVER.And to think some people worshiped this 'man' as a God. No wonder the Empire has so many problems these days.The bastard child of Tiber Septim could put the newly formed Empire into Civil War, much like it did during the War of the Red Diamond.
Tiber Septim didn't kick her to the curb. After a week, when she was physically recovered, it was announced that Symmachus had requested she come to Mournhold earlier than planned, and that she would leave forthwith. She was given a splendid retinue, a wardrobe befitting a queen and a ceremonial departure from the gates of Imperial City.
ArcaneAuthority said: ↑
Definitely Imperials, even though Ulfric protests that his cause is true and that he's acting on Skyrims best interests, there's outstanding evidence to prove he's just a selfish tyrant set on his own goals. I agree that signing the White Gold Concordat wasn't the Empires most popular decision among the Nords but without it the Empire would have been overthrown and the Nords would have been left defenseless from the Dominions armies. If only Skyrim and the other continents could work together to face the Dominion, maybe then we would have a chance.Agreed.
First of all, let me correct you on one point. You are saying I am biased... it's the Bretons who made this decision, the Aldmeri Dominion didn't want anything to do with either of them. I have sympathy for the Bretons because they wanted so bad to have a new Empire worthy of their Allegiance and instead the very thing they wanted and yearned for ended up Destroying them and as you said, "selling their men into slavery". True what they say, "Be Careful what you wish for..."
I was wrong about one thing. Talos was NOT the standard that other Emperors are to be judged by, rather, I think Uriel VII (Septim) and/or Martin would have set a better example. Uriel VII didn't order someone else to *murder* his unborn children ~ He was a responsible father and hid the unwanted ones away (or just Martin). Having someone who has taken an oath and sworn to heal people murder your kids for you ~ for any reason ~ is a sick individual. Politics are irrelevant, if your politics are at the center of your moral compass, you are a shrub of a person. He could have sent him somewhere else to live and at least live a normal life. Honestly, I lost any remaining respect I had for Talos once I found this out.
And yes, he did kick her to the curb. Talos had his fun ~ F.F.F. Typical man. No amount of Gold, Silver or finery, nor the respect of persons can buy back your self-respect or your soul.