Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
How did I just get it to go to 50 again (I was making a flame blade for one of my followers)? All I have is my 100, all the perks and fortify potions that I make @ 25%? Maybe I have a glitch.
enchantment questions
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Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
If you have 2 Augmented Flames perks from the Destruction perk tree it will give a fire damage bonus that raises the displayed damage of the enchantment accordingly. By my calculations it should be 53 though, not 50. What are your Alchemy stats?
crashhat69
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ok. i thought id ask because i watched a video and this guy had a fire enchantment that did like 48 points of fire damage?
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
He could be using any number of exploits.. Without seeing the video I couldn't say which one(s).
crashhat69
Member
i had no idea putting perks on destruction makes weapon enchantments more powerful. so i started over for nothing..that's awesome lol
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
I'm @ 100, but don't remember all the perks. Not quite full yet. You're probably right about the 53 though, I was just excited to have it bump up so much.
Adam Warlock
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Dragonborn DLC additions raise the previous caps.
A non-vampire with maxed Enchanting/perks plus Ahzidal`s Genius and Seeker of Sorcery magic effects, displayed Fortify Alchemy enchantment shows on the table at 28% before beginning crafting.
Using a 32% Fortify Enchanting potion results in Fortify Alchemy total of 33% (x 4 = 132%) but even an Enchanter`s Elixir will make for better than the old cap of 116%
I know it could go higher , but I didn`t do a loop beyond that by making better potions to make better Alchemy gear , etc.
The Fortify Enchanting Potion this gear produces is 35% but it could be tweaked higher with use of Seeker of Shadows effect.
A non-vampire with maxed Enchanting/perks plus Ahzidal`s Genius and Seeker of Sorcery magic effects, displayed Fortify Alchemy enchantment shows on the table at 28% before beginning crafting.
Using a 32% Fortify Enchanting potion results in Fortify Alchemy total of 33% (x 4 = 132%) but even an Enchanter`s Elixir will make for better than the old cap of 116%
I know it could go higher , but I didn`t do a loop beyond that by making better potions to make better Alchemy gear , etc.
The Fortify Enchanting Potion this gear produces is 35% but it could be tweaked higher with use of Seeker of Shadows effect.
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
For clarifity, these are content from the Dragonborn DLC. You won't be be able to obtain either in the vanilla game
Did you actually test this? There's a reason why the vanilla alchemy/enchanting loop hard caps at 29 without exploits. It has to do with the fact that the game rounds the numbers and by my calculations the next Fortify Enchanting potion you make will be 35% which shouldn't get you over the 33 hump (it yields ~ 32.85588).
Adam Warlock
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Adam Warlock
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I`m not good with math and never understood the loop deal very well.
I know there are formulas behind all this and that different effects might be treated in different ways
If you were crafting a Fortify Enchanting Potion with 132% gear and Seeker of Shadows active , would that be the same as if you had 142% gear without the effect?
Thank you , Dagmar.
Your expertise is admired and appreciated
I know there are formulas behind all this and that different effects might be treated in different ways
If you were crafting a Fortify Enchanting Potion with 132% gear and Seeker of Shadows active , would that be the same as if you had 142% gear without the effect?
Thank you , Dagmar.
Your expertise is admired and appreciated
Adam Warlock
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I decided to return to the Enchanter with just the 35% Fortify Enchanting potion to see what it would do.
With Seeker of Sorcery still active and wearing Ahzidal`s gear , the potion produced a ring of 34% Fortify Alchemy.
With Seeker of Sorcery still active and wearing Ahzidal`s gear , the potion produced a ring of 34% Fortify Alchemy.
Adam Warlock
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Ok . I got to Solstheim and with the 132% Alchemy gear and Seeker of Shadows active , I can craft 38% Fortify Enchanting Potions.
At Enchanter with Ahzidal`s Genius and Secret of Sorcery active, the 38% potion creates a 34% Fortify Alchemy item
So a total 136% Fortify Alchemy for 4 pieces appears to be the limit for a non-vampire
At Enchanter with Ahzidal`s Genius and Secret of Sorcery active, the 38% potion creates a 34% Fortify Alchemy item
So a total 136% Fortify Alchemy for 4 pieces appears to be the limit for a non-vampire
Adam Warlock
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With maxed Enchanting , a 38% Fortify Enchanting potion , both augment perks from Destruction , Seeker of Sorcery , and Ahzidal`s Genius , you can craft a fire frost or shock weapon with a base of 64
With 132% Fortify Alchemy gear but without Seeker of Shadows active , I created a Fortify Destruction 174% potion.
Drinking this raises the elemental damage from 64 to 176 for 60 seconds.
With 132% Fortify Alchemy gear but without Seeker of Shadows active , I created a Fortify Destruction 174% potion.
Drinking this raises the elemental damage from 64 to 176 for 60 seconds.
Adam Warlock
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Of course playing on Legendary difficulty you`re not actually dealing out those kind of numbers.
You are right though.
I didn`t even address what all the destruction augments , Chaos Magic , and Extra Effect can do.
Even without custom enchanting power , the Stalhrim Battleaxe of Ultimate Chaos I bought on Solstheim has a base elemental damage of 101 each because I have all 6 augment perks in Destruction.
I give thiese uber-weapons to followers and thralls who will generally only get the base output because of lack of perks,
My own primary weapon is Chillrend which normally gets 45 frost damage but raises to 56 if I`m wearing Dukaan`s Dragon Priest Mask.
I continue to have lots of fun and will still get killed occasionally if I become reckless.
You are right though.
I didn`t even address what all the destruction augments , Chaos Magic , and Extra Effect can do.
Even without custom enchanting power , the Stalhrim Battleaxe of Ultimate Chaos I bought on Solstheim has a base elemental damage of 101 each because I have all 6 augment perks in Destruction.
I give thiese uber-weapons to followers and thralls who will generally only get the base output because of lack of perks,
My own primary weapon is Chillrend which normally gets 45 frost damage but raises to 56 if I`m wearing Dukaan`s Dragon Priest Mask.
I continue to have lots of fun and will still get killed occasionally if I become reckless.
Skulli
Is that fur coming out of your ears?
Nice Adam!
I keep trying to pull my self away from MWO and work on some newer characters, but I can't find any way to make it all shiny and new again, just like most games....I still do play an hour or two here and there to try out new archetypes.
I myself , have abused smithing & enchanting on my second run thru, before Legendary, and even on master, I was the Almighty Gawd of Tamriel!
I keep trying to pull my self away from MWO and work on some newer characters, but I can't find any way to make it all shiny and new again, just like most games....I still do play an hour or two here and there to try out new archetypes.
I myself , have abused smithing & enchanting on my second run thru, before Legendary, and even on master, I was the Almighty Gawd of Tamriel!
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
I'm, assuming you meant Seeker of Sorcery. No because 132% x 1.1 = 145.2
I misread the effect of Seeker of Sorcery as being Fortify Enchantment 10% not as an enchantment magnitude multiplier of 1.1 (I also applied the Fortify Enchanting enchantment and potion effects incorrectly). The result is ~34.35 so that reconciles with your result.
Odd, I get 37%.
Also odd as it should have gone up. It could be that there is something odd in the way those two Enchanting effects are being introduced into the equation.
crashhat69
Member
i have 2 enchants on one of my swords why doesn't the charge last that long?
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
The stronger you set the enchantment the fewer charges it will have. You can adjust this ratio during the enchanting process (it's a slider bar for the enchantment when you place it on the weapon). Also, almost all of the enchantment effects on weapons are from the Destruction school of magic so a higher Destruction skill will reduce the charge cost for each use of the weapon. Similarly, so will wearing items enchanted with Fortify Destruction.
crashhat69
Member
ok good to know
