Tamriel's real world equivalents (your opinion)

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Moris

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Surely if the Altmer are the Brits because of their accents, then the Imperials are American, for precisely the same reason.

No, I don't think you can use accents as a determining factor. One of the male Dunmer voice actors is using what sounds like a pseudo Cockney, and the female Dunmers are unmistakeably British in voice, including Karliah. There are American accents among the Nords, Bretons, and Bosmer. And all children use an American accent, regardless of parentage. Even twin brothers Farkas and Vilkas have different accents... So what does that tell us about races? Absolutely nothing consistent.
 

Skullraid003

New Member
I'm suprised not many other people have noticed this, but a lot of dwemers look like Babylonian and mesopotamians, i don't think their architecture fits as much, but pictures of them from some of the previous games really made them look babylonian
 

feliciano182

Well-Known Member

iZsoul

Member
I like the Idea of Orcs as Mongolians (especially since

Kahjiit: Mesopotamian, so like Iraq. I think because of their names the "warm sands" quote and very Persian accents (pun not entirely intended) and the gypsy caravans remind me of the Kurdish.

Khajiit*
 
It's obvious that the people and plances of Tamriel are based on real places and people in our world. Here is how I see the 10 races and their homelands.

People...
Imperials= Romans
Bretons= French
Nords= Vikings
Redguards= Africans
Khajiits= Arabs
Argonians= Native Americans (possibly Aztecs)
Altmer= British
Dunmer= Jewish
Bosmer= Celtic
Orcs= Mongolians
Thalmor= The Third Reich

Places...
Imperial City= City of Rome
Cyrodiil= Italy
High Rock= France
Skyrim= Scandonavia
Hammerfell= Africa
Elsweyr= Middle East
Black Marsh= Central America
Summerset Isles= Great Britan

What do you think are the real world equivelents of Tamriel's people and places?

I think each race crosses over to the real world more like this:

Nords= Northern European (Scandinavian/Germanic)
Bretons= England/France (the actual Briton tribe is from England, but moved to France)
Imperials= Romans, Greeks, Spanish
Redguards= North African
Orcs= Mongolians/ Eastern Europeans (Mongols and Huns colonized lots of Eastern Europe during wars there)
High Elves= Chinese (it's really hard to tell, though)
Wood Elves= Native Americans
Dark Elves= Jews (displaced by major events/ come from a desert like environment)
Khajjit= Middle East
Argonians= India/Southeast Asia (proximity to swampland is similar to Southeast Asian peoples.
Akaviri= East Asian/ Japanese (use of Japanese like swords and styles of architecture)
 

Lightningfalcon

Seems khajit...
It's obvious that the people and plances of Tamriel are based on real places and people in our world. Here is how I see the 10 races and their homelands.

People...
Imperials= Romans
Bretons= French
Nords= Vikings
Redguards= Africans
Khajiits= Arabs
Argonians= Native Americans (possibly Aztecs)
Altmer= British
Dunmer= Jewish
Bosmer= Celtic
Orcs= Mongolians
Thalmor= The Third Reich

Places...
Imperial City= City of Rome
Cyrodiil= Italy
High Rock= France
Skyrim= Scandonavia
Hammerfell= Africa
Elsweyr= Middle East
Black Marsh= Central America
Summerset Isles= Great Britan

What do you think are the real world equivelents of Tamriel's people and places?

What about indians? (asian indians)
 

Panthera

Don Gato
It's obvious that the people and plances of Tamriel are based on real places and people in our world. Here is how I see the 10 races and their homelands.

People...
Imperials= Romans
Bretons= French
Nords= Vikings
Redguards= Africans
Khajiits= Arabs
Argonians= Native Americans (possibly Aztecs)
Altmer= British
Dunmer= Jewish
Bosmer= Celtic
Orcs= Mongolians
Thalmor= The Third Reich

Places...
Imperial City= City of Rome
Cyrodiil= Italy
High Rock= France
Skyrim= Scandonavia
Hammerfell= Africa
Elsweyr= Middle East
Black Marsh= Central America
Summerset Isles= Great Britan

What do you think are the real world equivelents of Tamriel's people and places?


I would go more like that:

- Imperials = if we put roman armors aside I would go for French (both are cosmopolitan)
- Bretons = Celtic (they actually are Celts)
- Nords = Scandinavians
- Redguards = Africans
- Khajiit = Mesoamericans
- Argonians = Carib
- Altmer = English
- Dunmer = Iclandians
- Bosmer = Goths
- Orcs = Slavic tribes

Places:
- Imperial City = Rome or Constantinople
- Cyrodiil = France
- High Rock = Alps, Switzerland or Tibet
- Skyrim = Scandinavia
- Hammerfall = Ethiopia
- Elsweyr = Nigeria
- Black Marsh = Central America
- Summerset Isles = Greece
 

Nameless233

Member
This thread is turning into a massive plopsstorm of racial debate...
May as well put my two sense in since I've read much about The Mongols.
They don't match orcs at all imo. The Mongols were complete nomads, orcs tend to create strongholds and group together. Many people may think of the Mongols as homeless because Mongolia has almost been integrated into both china and Russia by now, bt at the height of the Mongolian empire they reached farther than the Black Sea, and started to leak into Western Europe, down until about India as they were too rich and populous at the time to conquer, probably 30% of god damn Russia, the populous parts including Moscow, virtually all of china, made a full alliance with Korea, and all of what we mainly know as the Middle East. Many historians actually believe that they could have taken over all of Western Europe due to the economy and terrible fighting state of it at the time. However unfortunate consequences of Ghengis khans death (or his son ogedai) halted the invasion. Wow that escalated to more than I originally meant,... I should remember this is skyrim forums hahaha, anyway if you got this far thanks for the read
 

Nameless233

Member
Oh also I find it interesting how most are placing provinces of tamriel with countries besides when it comes to Africa... We really should be able to debate WHICH African country hammerfell falls into... Sadly I am guilty of also not being able to
 

Pendalyn

Very Dangerous Nobody
[quote="Panthera, post: 346108, member: 2462]
I would go more like that:

- Imperials = if we put roman armors aside I would go for French (both are cosmopolitan)
- Bretons = Celtic (they actually are Celts)
- Nords = Scandinavians
- Redguards = Africans
- Khajiit = Mesoamericans
- Argonians = Carib
- Altmer = English
- Dunmer = Iclandians
- Bosmer = Goths
- Orcs = Slavic tribes

Places:
- Imperial City = Rome or Constantinople
- Cyrodiil = France
- High Rock = Alps, Switzerland or Tibet
- Skyrim = Scandinavia
- Hammerfall = Ethiopia
- Elsweyr = Nigeria
- Black Marsh = Central America
- Summerset Isles = Greece[/quote]

think this one is more along my lines of thinking.
 

Panthera

Don Gato
Oh also I find it interesting how most are placing provinces of tamriel with countries besides when it comes to Africa... We really should be able to debate WHICH African country hammerfell falls into... Sadly I am guilty of also not being able to

You haven't read my post... go check it out. :p :D
 

LordBacon

New Member
alright
Imperials- Roman, because they have roman names and roman ideas and they practice roman warfare and even use roman armor.
Bretons- celtic, it dosent matter which tribe because most were fairly identical, the forsworn are the greatest piece of evidence to this theory, they even look like celts the male headdresses resemble the ancient antlered foes god they worshiped
Argonians- i agree with them being Aztec or mayan or some south American peoples, its a stretch but their homeland is a swamp jungle, and the way that their feathers grow in, it honestly looks like some of those old paintings of a south American priest or warriors feather headdress
Khajit- Indian or Chinese- cause of moon sugar, that stuff is clearly poppy seeds and skooma is opium, and they live out in a place in the FAR EAST called elswyer and are stealthy like a ninja, and have great hand to hand combat skills (martial arts)
nords- its obvious and needs no reasoning
orcs- an amalgam of steppe peoples, but mainly eastern European there is clear and strong influence of Slavic peoples in them as well as gothic peoples
bosmer- they are native americans,( it was hard to pick between celtic and native American but since the bosmer actually are not as aggressive as the Bretons i gave the more peaceful native American title to the bosmer)
altimer- hard to peg, very hard to peg, but Greek, Athenian greek to be precise because they are a very aristocratic as well as arrogant people, and by the time the game is in during skyrim the thalmor added a Macedonian/ idle age byzantine influence to the people.
Dwemer- this was actually a very easy people to peg, they are Sumerians, with Mesopotamian influences, in morrowind, you could actually see the ghosts of dead dwemers and they look exactly like a Mesopotamian and since they seemingly disappeared just like the Sumerians, leaving behind remnants of an extremely advanced society behind
dunmer- they are the ascetically like the dwemer although not nearly as advanced i would honestly call them the same as the dwemer, except a post civilization dwemer, much like post goldan age Egypt
Redgaurds- Bedouin, mainly because they are the closest to a middle eastern people that is in this game and since hammerfell is a desert kingdom full of tribes, or clans, who when united are a fierce fighting fore but wen disunited are not nearly as strong.
 

Adam Warlock

Well-Known Member
Oh also I find it interesting how most are placing provinces of tamriel with countries besides when it comes to Africa... We really should be able to debate WHICH African country hammerfell falls into... Sadly I am guilty of also not being able to
Ancient Timbuktu
 

Panthera

Don Gato
Oh also I find it interesting how most are placing provinces of tamriel with countries besides when it comes to Africa... We really should be able to debate WHICH African country hammerfell falls into... Sadly I am guilty of also not being able to
Ancient Timbuktu

That is basically today's Republic of Mali.
 

UnfaithfulServant

Silence, my brother...
I would view the Argonians as Jewish, mainly due to the Dark Elves enslaving them.
 

hally92

Member
The Bretons aren't British or English, British aren't a race they are a union of English, welsh, Irish and Scottish the Bretons are French. They are based on the real life Bretons (not to be confused with Britons). Bretons are from Brittany in northern France they were celts who came originally from what is now England, as all celts were pushed out of England by the Anglo saxons into ireland , Wales and northernmost France. The English descended from the Anglo Saxons who came from areas that are now in Germany. And the altmer in my opinion are more like Nazi Germany as in they believe they are superior to all races and think they should rule all. The Nord's I agree are clearly Scandinavian, Orcs are Mongolian, Imperials are obviously roman possibly slightly British in the fact that the empire was at its peak the biggest empire in history. Redguards I'd say the moors, woodelfs I'm unsure cause I think part of they're religion involves cannibalism so native american would be out of it maybe tribes of haiti?, khajiit Arabian maybe, argonians possibly certain parts of Africa with the tropical swamps and in part because they are downtrodden and were once seen as slaves and dark elves im not really sure.
 

Rimfaxe96

Well-Known Member
Yeah push all Altmer into Germany... isn't there a less... uhm, anti-social race to fit Germany? ><
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
Why is everyone equating the Dunmer with the Jews? What? The Dunmer in general are a surly, thoroughly evil bunch (90% of the ones you meet are trying to kill you after all and seem to really, really enjoy playing with dead bodies).

Jews come in way too many varieties to even use them that way. There are caucasian, black, asian, middle eastern, latin and, yes, even native american jews.

Personally I would equate the depiction to the Romany (Gypsies). Displaced, generally thought of us evil and untrustworthy, mysterious, different, semi-mystical, etc...

Quit raggin' on the Jews guys! Let's rag on some Romany for a change (just kidding - if my Romany friends ever saw this they'd hit me!).

On another note, why do only Redguards and Orcs start the game as dirty in preset? That's just mean.
 

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