And you have no evidence he did, so its a moot point. Also don't you think if he did it would be mentioned. It was mentioned that he used it in Markarth but not in the Great War. And for the love of god stop using the word "pwnage" sarcastically.
He left the Greybeards because he couldn't sit back while the Empire was invaded. Everything he loved was threatened. Ulfric was taught the Thu'um should only be used for violence in times of true need, if that wasn't true need, then what is?
If he used the Thu'um taking back Markarth, why would he not use it during the Great War which was the very reason he left the Greybeards?
He was ambushed in this fight in the Great War he was likely fighting in a Field Battle and was paralyzed or knocked unconscious then taken prisoner. Although I agree Ulfric was outsmarted by Tulius although it wouldn't have worked totally in his favor if Ulfric had died that day.
Greybeards use the Thu'um in self defense. Ulfric wouldn't likely stop himself from using it if the lives of his soldiers depended on it.
Ulfric is what gives the Stormcloaks their great recruitment, his charisma and speeches inspire his men and inflame their passions. Without him the Stormcloaks would die down and eventually return to their homes. There would be continued violence for some time, but not on the same scale.
Yes. this is true. doesn't mean I was trying to "emulate you" Jesus, I cant even get over how egotistical that sounds.
You go on about logical arguments and try use a video that I use often when something stupid has been said.
You were trying to mimic what I did and turn it against me. Would have worked if you had an idea what you were discussing.
It has nothing to do with being egotistical, it occurs a lot in debates.
Uhh when? example please. And when was this 500 pages ago?
The latest one was when Rimfaxe corrected me. I've been corrected many times in this thread, doesn't matter if it's ten pages or five hundred pages ago. I can admit mistakes, just have to manage to correct me.
Dying a "stupid traitor" isn't.
Actually to them it is, they're saying he died fighting for the Stormcloaks. You expect Empire supporters to say he died a god damn hero?
Idolaf is the only one who cares the rest of the family couldn't give a damn about him, or the rest of the Gray Manes for that matter. Only the Young ones are willing to put the feud past them it would seem.
Well since there is a Grey-Mane/Battle-Born love affair going on, why wouldn't the family care? They were all friends, the main people who hate each other are the clan leaders.
Only the young ones it would seem and Idolaf was the only one who looked into it further, He seems to be the only one who's really concerned about Thorald on the Battle Born clan The others are Imperial Supporters why would they care about the death of some Stormcloak Traitor. the Older family members, and even the younger ons seem to not care.
They're not all Imperial supporters. There are those on both sides who think the war is as stupid as their feud with each other. It isn't as black and white as you're trying to make out.
hold on, I think the mother would be upset either way although if he wasn't arrested illegally she likely wouldn't make a huge fuss about it.
She doesn't know he's been arrested. She thinks he's missing and she wouldn't make a fuss about it, if it was legal? Are you serious?
I don't think she gives a plops about the law, when it comes to her son. Also since when do Stormcloaks and their supporters recognize and follow the White-Gold Concordat?
The Argonians are an extremely powerful force. The Empire and Tiber Septim himself refused to fight them even from the inside.
Tiber didn't have to fight them, he got them by treaty. Yeah the Argonians are a powerful force, so all the more reason to keep eyes and ears on them.
Its not, I just... don't want to believe people would sell their souls like that, especially Nords, Imperials, and Redguards. Its unsettling to me. I mean wheres the proof that the Imperials will even have a chance in that cold war?
The Empire doesn't care about honor, neither do the Thalmor. The Penitus Oculatus for example:
Their recruitment process is oftentimes a brutal one, as displayed by Inspector Colin's task to assassinate an old man. The purpose of such recruitment process was to weed out those unwilling to actually go through with murder and other usually immoral tasks.
The Thalmor play dirty
. Can the Stormcloaks be dishonorable? Can those 'True Nords' risk their glory in Sovngarde by taking part in immoral activities?
So you tell me. What proof do the Stormcloaks have that they stand any chance in this kind of battlefield?