The Hungry Orc
Master of the Pyre
I ended up making a playthrough for both: a Two-Handed Barbarian for the Stormcloaks, and a Healer/Archer cross for the Imperials. I like them both equally.
I respected the Emperor when I had to assassinate him, so I killed the person who hired me and I joined his cause. Plus, according to my character's backstory, I come from Cyrodiil.
Racist? C'mon. I'm an Orc and after asking me why I wanted to side with The Stormcloaks as an Orc, I told them the Imperials were going to execute me. I proved myself to them and went from there. They'll take anybody who does something for them.
Maybe it's you that needs the education mate...
If the thamlor can almost crush the entire imperium, how easy could they destory all of skyrim if it goes fully independant of the imperium. If Ulfric wins, it makes sacking all of skyrim so much easier for the thalmor. In the Thalmor dossiers on Ulfric they mention they WANT him to win! As it makes things easier for them. They want him to win but he's still considered an enemy.
Some of you need to read some of the in game literature on poor old Ulfric. Turns out he's not a very nice guy at all.
What you have said sounds like Stormcloak propaganda rubbish to me. Ulfric's brainwashing is even powerful enough to penetrate our forum! Death to that racist Nord pig.
That's not true at all. If the dragonborn sides with the Stormcloaks that makes their strength a lot more stronger then the Thalmor. I don't believe what the Dossier says regarding to Ulfric.At the time the Thalmor had no idea that a dragonborn existed, and know how much power that the dragonborn can sustain. I'm amazed every time we speak about Ulfric regarding to the Thalmor in these Stormcloak vs Imperial threads that the Dossier always gets brought up like if Ulfric is some Thalmor agent, which in Skyrim's reality he despises them with a passion.
If the dragonborn can defeat the WORLD EATER aka Alduin just how difficult could it be for the dragonborn to help win the great war against the Thalmor? The ONLY way that the stormcloaks can lose is if the Thalmor takes out their best weapon, the Dragonborn. How can they successfully defeat the dragonborn? The same way that happen with Tiber Septim when the High Rock nightblade almost killed him by slitting his throat which then permanently disabled his use of the voice.
That and I get the cold shoulder when I try to talk to him. What a jerk.
The funny thing about this topic is, and I have seen this on many other threads is: The people who identify themselves as Imperial supports are on the left side of the political spectrum and the people who identify themselves as Stormcloak supporters are on the right side of the political spectrum.
What is the big reason behind the civil war, besides the fact that the Stormcloaks want Skyrim for themselves? It seems as though they are just selfish, closed-minded brutes.
Ulfric Stormcloak, the Stormcloak leader:
So I'm an Imperial.
- Brutally murdered the High King
- Is racist against all types of elves
- Will not reconcile or even reason with the Legion, nor anyone else
I saw your post as Jaeger quoted you so I thought I respond to it as well.Ulfric Stormcloak, the Stormcloak leader:
So I'm an Imperial.
- Brutally murdered the High King
- Is racist against all types of elves
- Will not reconcile or even reason with the Legion, nor anyone else
I saw your post as Jaeger quoted you so I thought I respond to it as well.
1. Ulfric did NOT brutally murdered the high king so what you said was false. Ulfric however did Kill him, not murdered him. Had he came from behind unannounced and gave him a stab from behind with a dagger then it would've been a different story. The fact is that people are complaining that Ulfric used the voice to shouted him down to the ground as he then shoved his blade through his heart.
2. FALSE. Hes not racist against all types of elves. If he was racist then he wouldn't had let 2 elves (Altmers in particular) own 2 prominent houses inside Windhelm. He wouldn't had allowed a DARK elf to own a farm.
3. Why should he reason with the Legion when the Legion (Empire) didn't reason with the people in Skyrim when they signed the treaty banning the worship of Talos? The empire brought the Aldmeri Dominion to skyrim since Talos is heavily worship. Ulfric wants Skyrim to be free from the tyranny of the Empire. So far I see the empire not reconciling with Ulfric by giving him and the people in skyrim freedom of religion. Instead their the Thalmors puppet.
I saw your post as Jaeger quoted you so I thought I respond to it as well.
1. Ulfric did NOT brutally murdered the high king so what you said was false. Ulfric however did Kill him, not murdered him. Had he came from behind unannounced and gave him a stab from behind with a dagger then it would've been a different story. The fact is that people are complaining that Ulfric used the voice to shouted him down to the ground as he then shoved his blade through his heart.
2. FALSE. Hes not racist against all types of elves. If he was racist then he wouldn't had let 2 elves (Altmers in particular) own 2 prominent houses inside Windhelm. He wouldn't had allowed a DARK elf to own a farm.
3. Why should he reason with the Legion when the Legion (Empire) didn't reason with the people in Skyrim when they signed the treaty banning the worship of Talos? The empire brought the Aldmeri Dominion to skyrim since Talos is heavily worship. Ulfric wants Skyrim to be free from the tyranny of the Empire. So far I see the empire not reconciling with Ulfric by giving him and the people in skyrim freedom of religion. Instead their the Thalmors puppet.
1. Ulfric's "murder" of Torygg depends entirely on the individual. Yes, he did defeat and kill Torygg in a duel but the duel was intended to be a swordfight, from what I can gather. Using the voice was underhanded and outraged many people. If Ulfric had defeated him in a COMPLETELY fair fight, many people would be more accepting of his victory.
2. The racism thing is also highly subjective. The "buying the houses only from the Jarl" is likely a game mechanic for organizational purposes. I doubt the elves in Eastmarch all bought their property directly from Ulfric or Jorlief. His own personal beliefs aside, if he was even mildly against the racism in his city and if Brunwulf Free-Winter is 100% reliable, why does he refuse to help the tormented Dunmer of the Gray Quarter or an elf village raided by bandits? Besides, letting only two elves live in a quality part of the city isn't much of a record to brag about.
3. The Empire didn't have a choice in signing the White-Gold Concordat. The Aldmeri Dominion was a force to be reckoned with and the Legion was tired of war. The Concordat is only a temporary treaty that allows both sides to regroup for the next Great War. Besides, what makes you so sure an independent Skyrim can face off the brunt of the Dominion after they wasted away all their resources on the Civil War?
Lol, these threads keep popping up and you keep on saying the same thing and someone always tells you different which is usually in most cases more logical than what you would make yourself to believe. The point of the "BEATING A DEAD HORSE" gif was to show that no matter how many times people tell you that you're wrong you never seem to listen to them.
Now that that's said let's just make a few things clear. Ulfric did indeed brutally murder the High King. He used the voice which, according to the gray beards, is not to be used for personal gain. Which Ulfric did to kill the High King. The High King could never have stood a chance against the Thu'um and Ulfric knew this. Ulfric only challenged Torygg to keep his reputation good with the people to make it seem like he wasn't doing it just for his political agenda.
The Empire actually DID give Ulfric and the people of Skyrim freedom to worship Talos. They did this by not enforcing it too harshly on them. It wasn't until Ulfric started rioting about it that the Thalmor started coming in and arresting people. If Ulfric really cared about being allowed to worship Talos he wouldn't have gave away the remaining freedom that they did have to worship in peace.
1. Once you accepted a duel it does not become murder. The High King made a vocal agreement to fight Ulfric to the death. The reason why people accuse Ulfric of murdering him is because of his shout, nothing more. You know how nords are with their views on magic. That's why most of them have such problem with the college at winterhold. Since you claim that it was a swordfight only can you provide me with evidence because I haven't came across anything like that before.
2. You ask "why does he refuse to help the tormented Dunmer of the Gray Quarter or an elf village raided by bandits?" How exactly are these dunmers of the Gray Quarters being tormented? By Galmars brother who gets drunk every night and shows his true feelings for them? They seem to be doing just fine. Even the guards draws business to them as they keep directing me to the elf that owns the trading store to sell my stuff to them. How are they being mistreated may I ask? They have the same protection as the nords. If I came up to a Dark elf and attacked them the guards would then start attacking me. Ulfric is fighting a war right now. unfortunately bandits is less of his problem. It is the Thalmor that the Empire invited over to Skyrim that is the primary target, and Ulfric needs all of the resources to draw them back.
3. Galmar makes an excellent statement regarding to the empire. "The day the Empire signed that damn treaty, was the day the empire died." Independent Skyrim has neighbors. I'm certain that they would be good use to help rid the Thalmor. Also Independent Skyrim has a powerful weapon, Dragonborn to which can be good use to fight off the Thalmor. An addition once Skyrim becomes independent The blades has a safe haven to regroup and restore. After training they can once again start fighting. I'm certain that Delphine and Esbern isn't going to let history slide away, and how the Thalmor slaughtered their brothers and sisters.