Bisexuality, legit or not?

[Doctor Langstrom]

Recently, I've noticed the debate over whether this form of sexuality actually exists or not. It was brought to my attention by my girlfriend, as well as a homosexual man with whom I work with.

I told him I had a girlfriend and he immediately assumed I was a lesbian. When I informed I wasn't, that I was bisexual, I was met with disbelief. Needless to say, it stung a bit. I'm neither confused or in denial. I know what my sexual orientation is, I have for quite some time. However, at the same time I was completely oblivious to the negative outlook on bisexuality from the gay community. In my opinion, that makes it even more difficult for a bisexual individual to come out. Not being accepted from straights and gays.

Thoughts? Opinions?

I'd like to hear what others have to say on this topic.

 

[Halkin]

i wasnt aware that gays or lesbians dislike the ones who rock both ends. i'll ask some friends i think and see whats what. i have a fairly diverse group of mates apart from bi, that i'm aware of. i cant see a problem really, i would be surprised if the chocolate speedway racers and carpet munchers dislike someone who wants a bit of both

 

[Seanu Reaves]

Meh Honestly I think it is more real than "Transgender" aspect LGBT. Though I feel you could say its just you change your orientation. So when you like men you're magically straight, and with your current Girlfriend you're suddenly lesbian. Honestly I think interestingly enough his response is the same as "straight" people towards the gay community. Along the lines of "How can they be like that?"

Honestly, more ignorance basically. I think the source hurt you more than the implications. How can this Gay Guy not understand the idea of a different orientation than the norm. lolz My understanding but before you gain any respect I would like to throw this gem in. "You like women and men... Dats Hawt..." good day to you

 

[Buffington Battle-Born]

Well, I see nothing wrong with bisexuality myself. Just like on my point of view on homosexuality, it's just a preference that no one should be judged for.

 

[Doctor Langstrom]

Meh Honestly I think it is more real than "Transgender" aspect LGBT. Though I feel you could say its just you change your orientation. So when you like men you're magically straight, and with your current Girlfriend you're suddenly lesbian. Honestly I think interestingly enough his response is the same as "straight" people towards the gay community. Along the lines of "How can they be like that?"

Honestly, more ignorance basically. I think the source hurt you more than the implications. How can this Gay Guy not understand the idea of a different orientation than the norm. lolz My understanding but before you gain any respect I would like to throw this gem in. "You like women and men... Dats Hawt..." good day to you

But, I like men and women at the same time. I'm in a loving relationship with my girlfriend, but at the same time I ogle men. And other women.

 

[Seanu Reaves]

lolz yeah. It was more like that's how people see it. Meh honestly It doesn't matter. Honestly I don't have enough info but I would say you Gay friend is weird. or queer if you will. AHAHAHAHA sorry bad joke don't report me...

 

[Medea]

I've witnessed this kind of thing as well. My uncle is gay, and he told me once that he hates it when gay men are flamboyant. For some reason, he believes that they aren't "being themselves", but rather catering to a social stereotype about how gay men are "supposed to act". I was pretty shocked that a man who was seeking acceptance his whole life could be biased against people who shared his own sexual preference. One of my lesbian friends, as well, doesn't seem to like it when homosexuals get sex changes. She thinks it's a "cop-out" and sees it as a way for someone to deny that they were ever gay to begin with.

I think everyone in the U.S. is close-minded about sex in their own way, because from the time we are children we are told that sex is shameful and dirty. No one seems to mind that we can see virtual decapitation and other forms of extreme violence on television, and in other forms of media, but everyone loses their fl*ffing mind over a nipple slip! When people grow-up in a social environment like that, they often end up having a bias toward sex/gender equality, whether they are straight or gay.

 

[Crooksin]

I've witnessed this kind of thing as well. My uncle is gay, and he told me once that he hates it when gay men are flamboyant. For some reason, he believes that they aren't "being themselves", but rather catering to a social stereotype about how gay men are "supposed to act". I was pretty shocked that a man who was seeking acceptance his whole life could be biased against people who shared his own sexual preference. One of my lesbian friends, as well, doesn't seem to like it when homosexuals get sex changes. She thinks it's a "cop-out" and sees it as a way for someone to deny that they were ever gay to begin with.

I whole-heartily agree with your uncle. It annoys me to no end to see overly-flamboyant dudes. It doesn't annoy me that they are gay, or that they are like that maybe because there gay, but it just seems like there over-compensating for something, like, I don't even see girls act like they do. I especially get annoyed when guys call eachother "gurl", why?

I don't agree with transgenders though, I really don't. And I won't. I think it goes beyond the whole "I was just a woman born in a man's body" or vice-versa, I think its more of a mental disorder thing. I don't hate them, and I don't hold it against them for doing whatever they feel they need to do, but I just don't agree with it. I'm not ignorant enough to launch an all out hate crusade, though, I understand its their own thing.

I don't really care if someone is gay/bisexual, to each their own. I have heard of homosexuals have negative feelings toward bi's, they see it like your playing both sides or something. Doesn't matter to me, you like what you like. In my own personal experience, I see a lot of girls (I'm saying girls because thats pretty much the only bisexuals I see) who claim to be bisexual only for the shock value, I guess you could say, aspect of it or maybe its just a phase. I don't think there all like that, just the ones I've come in contact with. Everyone wants everything so black and white, I suppose, even the gay community.

 

[Monolith]

I experienced this flaming, outrageous flamboyance first hand when visiting Castro in San Fran. I don't mean to sound like a bigot, because I'm really not, but it seemed like the gay community there was taking the whole self-advertisement thing a little too far. Gay sex toy shops on every street corner, "bookstores" filled with nothing but gay porn, men acting like women, or like an exaggerated caricature of female behavior. It was all very confusing to me. Then again, I have a couple of gay friends who basically behave like any normal man would; and I'm not trying to limit the definition of 'normal' to watching sports on TV, drinking beer or any other stereotypical male behavior, but rather 'normal' body language, mannerisms, vocal tone and such.

That being said, I absolutely respect every individual's right to have whatever sexual orientation they wish, whether it be gay, straight, something in between or totally pansexual. It doesn't bother me. I've had gay guys hit on me a few times, and I politely declined them, telling them I was straight as an arrow. It was still kinda flattering in a way, even though I would never be interested in trying it out

As far as bisexuality is concerned, I've also heard that they sometimes get the cold shoulder from both the straight and gay communities. As mentioned above by Crooksin, maybe it's because the gray middle area is harder to label and define. It also seems very common that young women identify themselves as bisexual, even though many of them are simply curious and want to experiment. My ex went through such a phase, only to realize she wasn't really into girls after all. I also have a male friend who recently came out of the closet as bisexual, perhaps even leaning more to the gay side of things. Neither of them faced any major discrimination, but then again we live in a very liberal country.

 

[LittleWolf14-10]

Honestly, sometimes it feels to me like everyone makes way too much of a fuss about what other people find attractive/feel like/identify as.

Straight? Awesome!
Gay? Totally cool!
Bisexual? A-okay!
Asexual? Also fine!
Transgender? That's no problem!
Other sexuality? (there's a handful of others) Great!

It's not anyone's place to judge, or hate. People know what they like and know if they don't feel right a certain way. As long as they are happy and not hurting others, it really isn't a big deal.

 

[Medea]

I don't agree with transgenders though, I really don't. And I won't. I think it goes beyond the whole "I was just a woman born in a man's body" or vice-versa, I think its more of a mental disorder thing. I don't hate them, and I don't hold it against them for doing whatever they feel they need to do, but I just don't agree with it. I'm not ignorant enough to launch an all out hate crusade, though, I understand its their own thing.

Just wait until genetics research allows people to be whatever they want. Real life cat girls, half angels and demons, green Orion slave girls from Star Trek; anything they want to be.

Personally, I'd like for them to re-write the genetic code in people so we wouldn't have wisdom teeth anymore.

 

[Crooksin]

Just wait until genetics research allows people to be whatever they want. Real life cat girls, half angels and demons, green Orion slave girls from Star Trek; anything they want to be.

Personally, I'd like for them to re-write the genetic code in people so we wouldn't have wisdom teeth anymore.

Oh, I'm sure there will be a time where Khajiits are not a thing of fantasy anymore.

I think all that time and money spent into trying to make a vagina into a penis is better spent elsewhere. I'd like them to re-write the genetic code to improve humans but I think fluffing with things of that nature will yield some not so pleasant results.

 

[Doctor Langstrom]

Oh, I'm sure there will be a time where Khajiits are not a thing of fantasy anymore.

I think all that time and money spent into trying to make a vagina into a penis is better spent elsewhere. I'd like them to re-write the genetic code to improve humans but I think fluffing with things of that nature will yield some not so pleasant results.

However, if that person has the money, I say let them change their genitals into something else. I don't see the problem. I can understand where someone might say they aren't comfortable within the gender that they were born as. I know my mentality is very much like a male. Kind of hard to describe really.

 

[ShenziSixaxis]

Honestly, sometimes it feels to me like everyone makes way too much of a fuss about what other people find attractive/feel like/identify as.

Straight? Awesome!
Gay? Totally cool!
Bisexual? A-okay!
Asexual? Also fine!
Transgender? That's no problem!
Other sexuality? (there's a handful of others) Great!

It's not anyone's place to judge, or hate. People know what they like and know if they don't feel right a certain way. As long as they are happy and not hurting others, it really isn't a big deal.

This is pretty much where I stand. You can be whatever you want, and that's fine! That's great, actually. I don't have any issue with anyone's sexuality or kinks or anything as long as they aren't hurting anyone (legal sense).

 

[ShenziSixaxis]

(( I don't see why it's my business what a transgender person does or doesn't do. Some are not simply genetically male or female, anyway. Some are XXXY, for instance. There are sound medical reasons why a person with tripled or quadrupled sex chromosomes may need to choose a sex and have surgery to finalize it. Even if it's just a cosmetic thing, it's no more my business than if a woman gets a boob job or a face lift.

Wait... what?
>link<
a person appearing or attempting to be a member of theopposite sex, as a transsexual or habitual cross-dresser.

Ah, whether someone likes it or not, they are genetically one gender or the other. I'm not sure on genetics for hermaphrodites/intersex, but I think you're confusing that with transgender? I agree entirely with the post, but I think you may have misunderstood something or I misread something (flu tend to do that to me).

 

[SherlockJones]

People will be attracted to whoever makes them happy, if that is labelled as gay straight bi etc then so be it.

Even if people don't believe one type of sexual orientation is "real", what you feel is very real.

Don't worry about the label, as long as you are happy to hell with everyone else ( except you guys, you're fine )

Just my opinion however

 

[sticky runes]

I think the reason bisexuals don't get as much respect as homosexuals is because they are not thought of as being as "brave" and "honest" as gays. For example, when a gay man comes out, he is confirming that he is not attracted to the opposite sex, he is attracted to his own sex. Other gay people, as well as straight friends and relatives of gay people, really admire him for doing that.

I think some people look at bisexuality negatively as a cop-out. Like, you're publicly straight so that you fit in, but you treat your homosexual desires as a dirty little secret, or you're only gay when it suits you. I'm not saying that's how I think all bisexuals act, I'm just thinking that's how people look at bisexuality when they take a negative attitude towards it. I've met straight people who were totally fine with gays, but still unsure about bisexuals.

Ideally, all LGBT people should get along, since we have all these events and movements where we all get together and try to let the world know that any kind of love is alright, but the truth is, a lot of gay people are confused by bisexuals, and it's a confusion that gay people don't really appreciate feeling.

I suppose it's just a lack of awareness - a gay person might judge a bi person without actually considering what the bi person has been through.

At some point, we've all been bothered by homophobia, and gays and bis have responded to it in different ways, but still haven't quite reached a stage where they can see eye-to-eye with each other. Unfortunately.

 

[Cylos]

Whatever floats your boat
But in all seriousness, as long as you love someone, I don't see the harm in it. As long as it's not children or animals.

 

[Seanu Reaves]

Sigh so I can't love my dog or my daughter anymore lolz JK I know what you mean

 

[kyleekay]

Recently, I've noticed the debate over whether this form of sexuality actually exists or not. It was brought to my attention by my girlfriend, as well as a homosexual man with whom I work with.

I told him I had a girlfriend and he immediately assumed I was a lesbian. When I informed I wasn't, that I was bisexual, I was met with disbelief. Needless to say, it stung a bit. I'm neither confused or in denial. I know what my sexual orientation is, I have for quite some time. However, at the same time I was completely oblivious to the negative outlook on bisexuality from the gay community. In my opinion, that makes it even more difficult for a bisexual individual to come out. Not being accepted from straights and gays.

Thoughts? Opinions?

I'd like to hear what others have to say on this topic.

I've heard of these issues regarding the bisexual community as well, and I've never fully understood why there was so much backlash. As others have said, shouldn't the homosexual community be willing to accept anyone and everyone, given their own struggle?

One thing that comes to mind is that some women seem to "act" bisexual because they think dudes get a kick out of it. That's why there's an epidemic (I think) of straight girls suddenly turning bisexual at a party after a few too many cocktails. Since there are people out there (men AND women) who likely do things like that just to get attention, I think it takes away from the overall perception of validity in a true bisexual person, which is very sad.

Now that "regular" homosexuality is becoming more socially acceptable, bisexuality is likely the next battle to be fought, and it will be won, I'm sure. In the meantime do you- who cares what other people think? Like you said, you're not in denial nor are you confused, so just do what makes you happy. My personal opinion is that bisexuality is valid and legitimate, and honestly, I could care less what someone's sexual preference is... doesn't bother/affect me any. People should do what makes them happy, period.