My point isn't about Ulfric though
It's about Tullius. You can't label someone a criminal for an act of tradition, then criticize someone else for not following tradition. I also don't want the Moot either, so Ulfric's stance doesn't bother me. No need to have a Moot when the Jarls would twerk for the Emperor if he gave them a chest of Septims.
If you listen to both sides, the Jarls wan the moot, but cannot agree because of Ulfric, so Ulfric's stance on it is important. Labelling someone a criminal for using one tradition which halts another is not hypocritical.
That's not what's said though is it? He calls the OTHER JARLS out for not agreeing on the Moot, whilst at the same time the Empire brands Ulfric a criminal for using the Nordic tradition of one Jarl challenging another in combat.
Like Ulfric said
"As for you, General Tullius, I see now that Galmar was right. Talking to the Empire is just as useless as ever."
"As always, the Empire's fine words are worth nothing!"
Talking to the Empire is like talking to a brick wall.
That argument is laughable at best considering Ulfric went into the meeting with a chip on his shoulder.
You're also leaving out the fact that regardless, they did meet and a peace treaty was worked out.
Furthermore, if the Moot is a meeting of Jarls, what's Gen Tully got to do wit that?
If Tullius has nothing to do with the Moot to elect the new High King/Queen, what has he got to do with the circumstances surrounding the old one?
How do you know the Stormcloak Jarls doesn't want the Moot too? Who are you to decide for them?
Oh God.. I'm not, IT'S IN-GAME DIALOGUE.. You know, the pl*** you guys use to cement your "proof".
Furthermore, suppose they did meet. Everyone sat down around a kitchen table. You'd have a bi-partisan Moot with all parties represented which could lead to peace with the Empire and save lives. Not allowing the Moot to meet is an act of treason against Skyrim.
Ulfric holds no power over the Moot meeting or not, if the Empire brands him a criminal, he holds no power in political decisions. I shouldn't have to say this again
If Gen Tullius is willing to give the Moot a chance, like you said earlier, why not hear the pro-Imperial Jarls out? Are you afraid they won't agree with you?
One Imperial Jarl can't even control his own City, another is a corrupt kid who deals with Bandits, another is a weird old lady who doesn't even bother to take notice of ANYTHING that happens in her hold & Elisif, by all accounts, is a fluffing idiot who can't handle the position of Jarl, nevermind High Queen.
The Empire has extended the Olive Branch to the Jarls of Skyrim, Ulfric included. Ulfric has rejected it because if the Moot meet rights now he could not control them.
You're forgetting that the Civil War is about getting the Empire OUT of Skyrim, why on earth would any Pro-Stormcloak Jarl want to deal with them?
The real puppets are the Stormcloak Jarls, with an axe to their necks once the Empire leaves Skyrim. Or if, rather.
I think you should perhaps research the Jarls who take over Imperial holds before coming out with such BS.
The Stormcloak Jarl of Morthal takes immediate action to interact with the people, something the Imperial Jarl totally ignored.
The Stormcloak Jarl of Markarth is a Stormcloak through and through.
The Stormcloak Jarl of Falkreath was the previous Jarl..
The Stormcloak Jarl of Whiterun is Stormcloak through and through.
I've no idea how you can possibly come to the conclusion that they have an axe to their throat.
As the Freedom loving sycophant the Stormcloaks are, you could not possibly claim to fight for Freedom when you prevent Freedom by locking up the local Gov and denying rep even unto the pro-Imperials.
Freedom from the Empire.. Why would they treat the Imperials any better than they do when they are the same people they're fighting
? You don't fight against an opressor one day then invite them round for tea and biscuits the next.
Ulfric is not fit to rule. I realize Titus Mede II did wrong in signing the WGC, however I also realize the Stormcloaks are not the Freedom Fighters they pretend to be.
Ulfric is indeed fit to rule, and is following the EXACT same steps that Titus Mede did to gain the Ruby Throne. You can't support one man/dynasty and his actions to gain power whilst at the same time blasting another for doing the same.
'After some time, Mede took the
Imperial City by force with only 1,000 men, usurping the current emperor at that time,
Thules the Gibbering, and becoming Emperor of
Tamriel.'
I guess it's fine to usurp the throne if you're an Imperial?