Ozan
the Magnificent Bastard
DrunkeMage said:Tell me when was the last time Skyrim was able to govern itself, united and independent? It isn't being racist, the Nords have a conflicting nature. They were split in half at the fall of the Second Empire, most likely stayed split for 465 years until Tiber united Tamriel under the Third Empire.
The Stormcloaks require Ulfric, none of the other Jarls would be suited for the crown on their side. It is very likely Tullius and Ulfric will die, and it is very doubtful the Moot will be able to name a successor of this new independent Skyrim. What happens when the Moot is unable to name a new King? Right now a Civil War for the throne, same thing that happened in the Second Era the province split in half, same thing that happened in the First Era with the fifty year long War of Succession. Probably also the same damn thing that was happening over in Atmora with a Civil War during the Merethic Era.
Skyrim has every right being independent, but splitting away on the brink of a second war between the Empire and Aldmeri Dominion? Over the White-Gold Concordat that was poorly enforced and isn't going to remain for much longer? Stormcloaks offer a short term solution, isolation of their province and open the door to greater Thalmor espionage.
If this is the case, then Spain had no right to govern themselves prior to the Reconquista. For almost 800 years, Spain was not a unified nation with most of Iberia being taken by Muslim invaders. The reason why they couldn't kick them out sooner was because they were always waging wars amongst each other, but that's Feudal Europe for you when your vassals fight among themselves.
But, at 1942 when Iberia was finally in Christian hands, Spain and Portugal took it upon themselves to make fluffING EMPIRES THAT AFFECT OUR WORLD TODAY!!! It was great.
Now, you said there was a split in Skyrim... Right down the middle probably. Well, that isn't so bad. Sure, Skyrim has a history of fighting among themselves... But this is different. Assume Ulfric and Tullius both die. The Jarls supporting Elisef (forgot how to spell her name) still support her. Anyone rising up in Ulfric's place would have to have a lot of his ideas just to keep the Jarls who had supported him to maintain the war, a war that is far easier without a competent strategist leading the enemy. If not Elisef will be made High Queen, probably unanimously.
But, being feudal, that doesn't mean half the Jarls won't petition her to break off from the Empire (something her husband would have done if Ulfric asked). So now, we deal with a lot of what ifs (a what if scenario I enjoy because Tullius isn't here to hold her hand). Feudalism is a curse, really.
DrunkeMage said:Indeed I do, what happened to being a Khajiit?
People kept suggesting I spoke like a giant pussy.