Look at the position of the comma, yep, right after "ever was made". Did you notice something in my first sentence? I performed a what's called a run-on sentence. To put it bluntly, Arrianus had nothing to do nor was involved in the second conjunction of the post.
A run-on is a sentence in which two or more independent clauses (i.e., complete sentences) are joined without appropriate punctuation or conjunction
That was kind of my point Charles, I was saying you took the quote out of context, to make it look like the lore page had stated that. Also, "as" is appropriate conjugation to merge Arrianus' claim to the statement provided, because "as" is synonymous with "because" meaning they were saying that Arrianus claimed that Ulfric committed these atrocities. On the topic of words and wordplay and such is Xander pronounced with a "Z" sound or more like an "Sh" I'm assuming "Z"
You strayed away from my question quite meekly. I asked you a question, not a possible outcome.
Actually I provided your analogy with an analogy of my own.
Actually you avoided my question. To you it has no significance, but it has to do with a lot more than just your opinion.
Hello? Look around you, Most of the Nords ARE Barbarians. Tullius is straight-forward and to the point, he wants this act of rebellion quelled so he can move on to more oppressing matters, such as the Thalmor. There's a huge difference between lack of knowledge and personal spite. Your source of excuses is becoming exhausted.
Right, okay, uhh tell me something, how many Barbarians live in proper villages and make due on businesses, or live in cities and do the same or houses in the woods that they built. If you're referring to the class "Barbarian" then I guess I'd have to agree with you, although there are definitely more Warrior Nords in Skyrim. Tulius certainly wasn't.
I was referring to the class, but the Nords have a long history of barbarism.
I said I don't want to touch on this subject, but very well. The Jews weren't hunted down because of their religion, they were hunted down because they were JEWS! They did have to get false identities, so that they hoped that they were seen as Germans and not Jews. Did Hitler say it was God's fault that they lost WW1? No, he blamed the Jews and the German people believed him. Jews were not the only people that were killed you know. All Blacks, Homosexuals, individuals with mental or physical disabilities, P.O.W.'s and Gypsies were put to death. Hitler believed in conspiracy theories that regarded the Jews as Communists and claimed that they had deliberately made Germany lose World War 1 by causing strikes, subversion and revolution on the home front. He also said that they had deliberately caused the Great Depression. Worst of all, some of these conspiracy theories claimed that the Jews were seeking world domination and were therefore in competition with Germany's bid to dominate the world. So no, you were completely wrong. Yes, you did try to compare them together, why else would you bring it up? Research. Please!
Yep, I read "Adolf Hitler" too. Tell me something, are you aware that Judaism is a RELIGION and that to seem like you aren't Jewish you would have to HIDE YOUR RELIGION and the only way to be Jewish is if you're of the Jewish faith because they're an ETHNORELIGIOUS group of people meaning that to be a Jew you have to be of the Jewish faith. I never said Hitler killed them for their religion, I'm saying they were hunted for it. Whats the best way to tell if someone's a Jew? Figure out his/her belief system. They weren't visually identifiable if that's what you're suggesting.
No Idea what book you are referring to. You are completely failing to understand the point. Jews were hunted down as a RACE, not a religion. Hitler didn't kill anyone, he persuaded the German people that the Jews were interfering in their plans for world domination and that they were responsible for the loss in WW1. You are saying that they were hunted down for their religion, but I have yet to see any compelling evidence that doesn't say otherwise.
You know, you reminded me of a very fitting quote in a film I watched. Guy 1: "What's the point of living if it means throwing away your pride?!" Guy 2: "You're a strange one all right, but pride doesn't count for much when your dead..you know?" Now you are just generalizing Nords again. If hiding your religion is cowardly to them, then I respect the ones who choose cowardice over undeniable death.
Why? I'm not generalizing Nords half of them obviously behave this way. Pride counts to the Nords when they're dead, because if you don't die staring death in the face, guess where you're not going? Sovngarde, the most sought after place in all of Nordic society. Y'know for someone who claims to be a Nord you don't seem to know a lot about your main character's culture. Just an observation.
"All "realms" that souls return to upon death are really the same place. It is only the perception of that place that is different. This is very different from Oblivion which has each realm defined by definite boundaries, while Aetherius seems to have none--it is all the same place. This follows with the concept that the Aedra do not comprehend boundaries, while the Daedra are composed of boundaries.
Aetherius is also the realm of the remaining Aedra. All the Aedra exist in the same space, while the Daedra all have different spaces."
Sovngarde is a realm of Aetherius. And it is possible to travel from Aetherius to Oblivion and back. For it is assumed that a soul cannot escape Aetherius without using the Dreamsleeve, but it can travel between Oblivion and Aetherius if enough strength is used. Whether or not this requires the aid of an Aedra is beyond me. (This is if we take Kodlak's spirit's last words into account where he claims he will gather the Companions in Sovngarde to rescue his fallen friends in Hircine's realm.)
Putting it simply, a soul will go where it is believed and destined to go. If I died of old age rather than in a fight and believe I was brave enough to go to Sovngarde, then that is where I will go.
There you are still generalizing the Nords. Not all of the Nords share the same views as the Stormcloaks, so it's wrong to put them all into the same category like that. Also, you HAVE to go to a shrine to receive blessings? Last time I checked, all of the shrines in my house worked perfectly fine and gave me the correct blessings. There are also plenty of shrines scattered across Skyrim that don't have any temple or statue that still give out blessings.
Okay I explained the Nord part already, the Stormcloaks clearly think this way, I'm not generalizing I'm observing, and learning about, the people that are my favorite TES race. As for the Shrines, did you really just say that? Well not everybody has a shrine in their house, you built your house and built some shrines so you have shrines, Most people don't have shrines in their home, and can't receive blessings. Also I'm pretty sure the Shrine working just fine is because of player convenience. You'd most likely have to get that blessed by a priest. And guess what, those Shrines are being watched by the Thalmor. Need proof, here you go:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Elisif's_Tribute
We didn't pay much attention to it when I was a boy - everyone still had their little shrine to Talos.-Alvor
Drunkenmage stated that normal blessings are not a common circumstance. I don't have any proof of or against that, so i'm going to take his word for it.
The dominion is compromised of a hell of a lot more than the Thalmor. Yes the Thalmor are bad, but do you think the Empire really had a say in who could or could not enforce the treaty? Plus, when they say that they are keeping the Dominion out, they (obviously) mean the Dominion military forces. I think YOU should drop it because it is personally not a relevant argument, because it is quite obvious.
"What the rebels like to forget, is that the Empire is the only thing keeping the Dominion out of Skyrim." How does that mean anything different than it already says? Oh yes, the Empire is BSing about the keeping the Dominion out of Skyrim. Because OBVIOUSLY the Dominion military is occupying Skyrim right now! How could I and everyone else been so blind? Pathetic excuse of an attempted argument. Yes the Thalmor are part of the Dominion, but they are not THE Dominion as you are generalizing them to be.
He said this "What the rebels like to forget, is that the Empire is the only thing keeping the Dominion out of Skyrim." meanwhile this is happening everyday:
View attachment 34132 They may not be the whole Dominion, but they're representing them pretty well.
Indeed, so I guess it's better to not have more of this than there already is then right?
What are you talking about? What people? You are making 0 sense again. Please explain.
Are you saying you don't know about all of the people that were kidnapped for worshiping Talos? secretly by the way. Pretty much one of the main reasons the Stormcloaks are fighting?
You said "I guess they asked for the permission of the Jarl to kidnap all of those people, right?" When we were/are still on the subject of Markarth and the facts on Ondolemar's mission. Saying something like that makes it very confusing.
