Sneak or muffle?
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Phobos
Member
Really strange you just posted this. I just logged on to search for threads on muffle and sneak.
I have 100 sneak and don't believe that boosting sneak does anything with that high a level in the perk. I have not seen a boost when using enchanted gear or potions. I have the 50% muffle perk and wear the Dark Brotherhood boots that are also muffled.
IMO using the muffle perk on your boots is more beneficial for an assassin if your sneak is high enough.
I have 100 sneak and don't believe that boosting sneak does anything with that high a level in the perk. I have not seen a boost when using enchanted gear or potions. I have the 50% muffle perk and wear the Dark Brotherhood boots that are also muffled.
IMO using the muffle perk on your boots is more beneficial for an assassin if your sneak is high enough.
Phobos
Member
Do you have the muffle perk? I have been looking for the enchant for days!
Phobos
Member
I am not too concerned about it right now. I am happy with my DB boots but i would like to have a complete armor set for aesthetics and to add a second enchantment to my character.
I swear i saw it early on in the game and was too stubborn to spend the money. Now i have more money than i know what to do with.
I swear i saw it early on in the game and was too stubborn to spend the money. Now i have more money than i know what to do with.
Muncywolverine
Member
I use full plate armor with the illusion spell muffle and the sneak perk muffle. DOUBLE MUFFLE!
zFrenzyy
Assassin at your service
What does muffle actually do?
It makes you 50% harder to find right?
Muncywolverine
Member
It makes you 50% harder to hear not neccisarily find. I'm a vampire so i walk around in plate armor with the perk muffle and the illusion spell muffle. When i hit stage 4 vampire and gaurds attack me i can turn on invisability and sneak away unheard in my plate.
There are many variables in sneaking (lighting, armor type (and weight of armor), do you have a dog, visual, rate of movement, etc). Muffle just sets the armor to nil in the calculation.
trekie4ever
New Member
I played around with muffle and sneak... with muffle spell I could walk right in front of falmer (they are technically blind) while sneaking nd not be detected. Did that a lot in blackreach. Without muffle I would always be detected and I have sneak at about 90 without muffle perk. Likewise with muffle while sneaking i couldn't walk right in another creatures face. So high sneak in general is great without muffle but together you are much harder to find.
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XbSuper
Active Member
The guy inside actually does have a different stock than the woman.
stagnant94
Active Member
yeah, i find muffle more useful but it depends on your playing style
Phobos
Member
Interesting. Thank you!
muffle is noise (armour, how fast your moving)
sneak is visual (enemy LOS, lighting)
these 2 together affect whether enemy will know your there. You can only get damage multiplier by crouching though.
An oppoennt that is blind or with back turned to you will not know your coming if your 100% muffled. If your not in anyones LOS it doesnt matter what the lighting is
Knocking items to the ground, dogs, companions can give away that your there no matter how good your sneak/muffle is.
Muffle boots = 50% muffle so to be completely silent you need another 50% from spells, potions or perks.
sneak is visual (enemy LOS, lighting)
these 2 together affect whether enemy will know your there. You can only get damage multiplier by crouching though.
An oppoennt that is blind or with back turned to you will not know your coming if your 100% muffled. If your not in anyones LOS it doesnt matter what the lighting is
Knocking items to the ground, dogs, companions can give away that your there no matter how good your sneak/muffle is.
Muffle boots = 50% muffle so to be completely silent you need another 50% from spells, potions or perks.
