Like I said before I never seen this accusation coming from a Stormcloak. Do you mind pointing me in the right direction? Which NPC had stated this? That Ulfric can't be killed easily because of the tongue talent that he has?
I don't have an exact link to the dialogue, but according to the lore Balgruuf made the pilgrimage to High Hrothgar in his youth. He carried on a rivalry with Ulfric Stormcloak since they both were young. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Balgruuf_the_Greater
Guards and Soldiers are specialty trained to deal with stressful situation during difficult times. Do you think that anyone can become a Guard or a Soldier? No.
To be a guard you need to be courageous and have the ambition to protect your hold at all cost. That is including with your life. Being a guard isn't for the simple folks. They maybe normal citizen, off duty that is. And no. It is nearly impossible for Ulfric to escape when the city is swarming with Guards and Torygg's Soldiers.
I can spend money publishing books on how much I love the Empire, but that doesn't mean that it's true.
Their actions speaks for itself... to label Ulfric as a King slayer... a murderer
when all Ulfric did was to exercise his right on Nordric traditions to challenge a King whom he thought was doing wrong by Skyrim.
Yet the Emperor was quick to outlaw the worship of Talos just to please the Dominion.... just to keep his place on the throne.
In case you haven't noticed throughout the holds the Jarls handle official business like murders and arson. You have to speak to them about it first, and you don't speak to Ulfric, but rather His steward. Also no they don't, Ambarys makes it very clear he wants his needs put above everything the Jarl is doing right now:What is he supposed to do about a murder? He has guards for that. The Dunmer situation just requires acknowledgement. All they ask is their concerns are looked at.
Sounds more Breton to me, either way it makes what I'm trying to say clear.Three Nord women? Thought it was two and possibly an Altmer. Didn't think Isabelle was a Nord name?
The Jarl's also the head military commander, in a currently raging civil war, So they're going to have to realize that their current issues are not going to be met. Seriously though, the Dunmer have enough money to own and maintain businesses but not enough money to buy a hammer and some nails and wood an fix those "run down buildings". I call BullplopsWhere are you getting holes in the floor?
"You've seen how we live -- cramped alleys, run-down buildings, few guard patrols. Even the name 'Gray Quarter' is an insult."
They do need to go to the Jarl, he rules the city and maintenance would be under his charge.
JARL Ulfric currently has to run a city and an Army at the same time. Maybe things are different over in Solitude where you have a separate Jarl and a Military Governor, but at the same time I don't really care. KING Ulfric won't have to deal with such trivialities.If he can't rule even handed and can't speak up for the nine other races, what business does he have being High King.
No, they just turn a blind eye. If they were propagating it, You wouldn't be able to join if you weren't a Nord, and Ulfric makes it clear he doesn't care what you are as long as you fight with honor and integrityStormcloaks fight against Thalmor discrimination and elven supremacy. While they're propagating discrimination and Nord supremacy through their supporters.
That, again proves nothing about him being "Racist". He clearly states "He has larger issues at hand" and frankly, he does. The Nord mentality on hardship is: "fight for it or work through it." And most of the Dunmer seem to just complain, which will drive a Nord like Ulfric bloody madActually he does. His disdain is obvious there.
Jorleif: "Sir, there continues to be unrest in the Gray Quarter."
Ulfric: "Blasted dark elves. I don't suppose you could tell them that I presently have larger concerns? Such as all of Skyrim?"
Jorleif: "They don't seem to be very sympathetic to our cause, sir."
Ulfric: "Let me know if you hear anything more substantial?"
Jorleif: "Of course, my lord."
What are you talking about? Brunwulf said this:Why? He mentions his conversations with Ulfric in past tense, i.e before we arrived to the city.
Again this is a huge deal. If you were in love with someone, would you allow her/him to be Racist when you are a clear advocate for racial equality? Somehow I don't think so.Love is strange. Besides neither of them discuss that subject with each other. Brunwulf is or was if he becomes Jarl trying to get her away from Windhelm. To go live in the Rift it would seem.
Tell me where they can live. Seriously, point me to a spot they can live that won't just fluff them over even more. How about across the street from the Dun- oh right slavery. Well Ok! How about near the Nor- oh yeah racism. Gee it looks like the assemblage is the best place for them.That they have to remain outside from people who think as he does? It was Ulfric who banished them in the first place, I don't think he had real plans to bring them back inside.
I never said he was lying, but to be honest I'm pretty sure the war did things to his head, besides those bandits threaten everyone, they don't just prey on minorities.He doesn't have a real reason to lie, and he sends you to the bandit location in Eastmarch. If he was just talking out of his ass, I don't think he would have sent you after the bandits who threaten non-Nords.
In case you haven't noticed throughout the holds the Jarls handle official business like murders and arson. You have to speak to them about it first, and you don't speak to Ulfric, but rather His steward.
Also no they don't, Ambarys makes it very clear he wants his needs put above everything the Jarl is doing right now:
"I tried to get Ulfric to even come down here to see the squalor, but the High Lord of His Mightiness couldn't find the time."
Apparently, he doesn't understand the consequence of Ulfric's position, and why he can't find the time to deal with such trivial disputes.
I'm pretty sure if it was just about acknowledgement, then they wouldn't be complaining so much about the "terrible conditions of the Gray Quarter"
Sounds more Breton to me, either way it makes what I'm trying to say clear.
The Jarl's also the head military commander, in a currently raging civil war, So they're going to have to realize that their current issues are not going to be met.
Seriously though, the Dunmer have enough money to own and maintain businesses but not enough money to buy a hammer and some nails and wood an fix those "run down buildings". I call Bullpl***
JARL Ulfric currently has to run a city and an Army at the same time. Maybe things are different over in Solitude where you have a separate Jarl and a Military Governor, but at the same time I don't really care. KING Ulfric won't have to deal with such trivialities.
No, they just turn a blind eye.
If they were propagating it, You wouldn't be able to join if you weren't a Nord, and Ulfric makes it clear he doesn't care what you are as long as you fight with honor and integrity
That, again proves nothing about him being "Racist".
He clearly states "He has larger issues at hand" and frankly, he does.
The Nord mentality on hardship is: "fight for it or work through it." And most of the Dunmer seem to just complain, which will drive a Nord like Ulfric bloody mad
What are you talking about? Brunwulf said this:
"I'll speak to Ulfric soon, but I make no promises that I can change his mind."
Again this is a huge deal. If you were in love with someone, would you allow her/him to be Racist when you are a clear advocate for racial equality? Somehow I don't think so.
Tell me where they can live. Seriously, point me to a spot they can live that won't just fluff them over even more.
How about across the street from the Dun- oh right slavery.
Well Ok! How about near the Nor- oh yeah racism. Gee it looks like the assemblage is the best place for them.
I never said he was lying, but to be honest I'm pretty sure the war did things to his head, besides those bandits threaten everyone, they don't just prey on minorities.
Thalmor is right about the PRO Empire supporters.
People in this thread, glad to see someone actually agrees with me about the Thu'um not being everything.
Many people make a pilgrimage to High Hrothgar, doesn't mean he tried to become a Greybeard.
Medieval guards and soldiers aren't the best of the best. Many of them are just doing it because they needed work, sure you have some who are in it for a sense of duty. Anyone can become a guard and soldier, there is conscription at times.
Actually past TES games have shown guards and soldiers who aren't very courageous, or with much ambition. There are many who would put their own life before others, not every soldier you come across is this flag saluting, ready to die for the cause etc.
After Ulfric killed Torygg in the challenge, he tried to escape the city, and Roggvir again opened the gate for him. Accounts of the incident vary wildly among the citizens; most claim that he was an accomplice in the murder. - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Roggvir
"Roggvir. You helped Ulfric Stormcloak escape this city after he murdered High King Torygg. By opening that gate for Ulfric you betrayed the people of Solitude." - Aldis
"He opened a gate and the wrong man rode out of it. If that man hadn't been Ulfric Stormcloak. If Ulfric hadn't killed High King Torygg... But it was Ulfric. And he did kill the High King, in honorable combat. My brother refused to allow the the Imperials to take revenge for the deed. So now he's dead." - Greta
They were chasing after Ulfric.
Quick? It took four years of warfare, the destruction of more than half the Imperial Army and Cyrodiil completely in flames. It wasn't just the soldiers who died in the Great War.
"Men, women, children, no one was spared my wrath. I destroyed whole villages." - Runil
Raijin, after having met Titus II personally. Does he strike you as the man who cares only for his throne?
In fact, if you accept his request you can return to Motierre and say there is one more thing "Just a favor... for an honorable man."
Thalmor is right about the PRO Empire supporters.
"General Tullius, stop! By the authority of the Thalmor, I’m taking custody of these prisoners."
"Your Emperor will hear of this. By the terms of the White-Gold Concordat, I operate with full Imperial authority!"
"You’re making a terrible mistake!"
Legion trying to execute you was better than the alternative.
From Ralof going "Gods a torture room!" ?
There is no evidence the Stormcloaks are somehow above using torture, it is used all over Tamriel.
I didn't say that he wanted to become a greybeard... Just wanted to learn how to master the Thu'um, but was unable to. Not everyone has the ability to do it. Ulfric managed to be successful... which is probably why Balgruuf became resentful of him and his success.
Are you downright telling me that Skyrim's guards are cowards and fearful? That is what I am reading from your post. I find it hard to believe that every guard and Solider in Solitude was fearful of Ulfric because of his Thu'um. Guards and soldiers deals with rouge mages all the time.
The whole situation with Roggvir stinks and here's why http://colonelkillabee.tumblr.com/post/71467227749/new-stormcloak-bible-addition-link-to-the-rest-of
After meeting with Titus Mede II I cannot make the judgement of him only caring for his throne as I didn't get to know him on a personal level, but business.... on Dark Brotherhood quest.
Still missing the point that people shouldn't have to hide their religion, especially at the command of the Emperor many of your kinsman died for. Sick of hearing people blame the Nords for worshipping Talos and giving the Imperials a free pass for the actual enforcing of the ban. Like I said before, if someone had a gun pointed at them and were told not to move, but they did so and were killed, the Imperials are the type of people who would blame the victim for moving, instead of the monster for the killing.
This meme doesn't mention that Rikke is one of the few smart folk who do it secretly. Do you have to wear an amulet around your neck? Do you have to do your daily walk to a Shrine of Talos before and after work? Nope, you could just quietly pray at home or some other ritual stuff that doesn't attract suspicion. Too bad Ulfric is too stupid for that.
"I don't know about you, Tekla, but all my prayers are silent and who I pray to is still my own to decide." - Narri
Still missing the point that people shouldn't have to hide their religion, especially at the command of the Emperor many of your kinsman died for. Sick of hearing people blame the Nords for worshipping Talos and giving the Imperials a free pass for the actual enforcing of the ban. Like I said before, if someone had a gun pointed at them and were told not to move, but they did so and were killed, the Imperials are the type of people who would blame the victim for moving, instead of the monster for the killing.
Yes and what did the Imperials sacrifice? The Empire has a history of treating provinces as expendable, Morrowind, Hammerfell, Valenwood(Currently going through a phase of ethnic cleansing, where's the Empire to help them?) and now Skyrim.. This strange concept that the Empire is the only thing capable of stopping the Thalmor and Skyrim is doomed without it, is quite frankly ridiculous. Ulfric's support is mostly from the way the Empire is treating Skyrim, not from the Talos ban(Well, they're sort of two in the same). Manipulating it's own citizens then arresting/sentencing them to death is what's caused the uprising, Imperials seem to forget it was the PEOPLE who sat Ulfric on the throne and cried out for justice/war, he didn't plonk him self on the throne and demand it from them.Still missing the point that people shouldn't have to hide their religion, especially at the command of the Emperor many of your kinsman died for. Sick of hearing people blame the Nords for worshipping Talos and giving the Imperials a free pass for the actual enforcing of the ban. Like I said before, if someone had a gun pointed at them and were told not to move, but they did so and were killed, the Imperials are the type of people who would blame the victim for moving, instead of the monster for the killing.
It wasn't only Nords who died in the Great War, plenty of Imperials died too. And people from all races who are joined under the Imperial banner. And if this little ban hadn't been enforced, it wouldn't just have been your camerads dying, but also their families and everyone who remained alive would be living the life of a slave.
Obviously this is the part that doesn't want to get into the head of Stormcloak supporters. Blame the Emperor all you like, in the end this man kept you alive so you were able to fight another day - his only mistake is that he underestimated people's stupidity, people like Ulfric using a not-well liked new rule to gain the upper hand, not realizing or caring what they're about to sacrifice here - their whole freedom, not just freedom of religion.
Besides, seeing how others are saying the Empire is intolerant; you do realize that it were Nords who in the past put priests on a stake and burned them alive and destroyed religious monuments, right? It is the Empire that allowed worship of basically anything (except perhaps the old Gods from the Reach people, since some of them sacrifice people to become hagravens for example).
Yes and what did the Imperials sacrifice? The Empire has a history of treating provinces as expendable, Morrowind, Hammerfell, Valenwood(Currently going through a phase of ethnic cleansing, where's the Empire to help them?) and now Skyrim.. This strange concept that the Empire is the only thing capable of stopping the Thalmor and Skyrim is doomed without it, is quite frankly ridiculous. Ulfric's support is mostly from the way the Empire is treating Skyrim, not from the Talos ban(Well, they're sort of two in the same). Manipulating it's own citizens then arresting/sentencing them to death is what's caused the uprising, Imperials seem to forget it was the PEOPLE who sat Ulfric on the throne and cried out for justice/war, he didn't plonk him self on the throne and demand it from them.
Yes they will defend Cyrodill first, and Ulfric wants to defend Skyrim first.. Why is what's okay for the Empire not okay for Skyrim? I am very, very confident that more of Skyrim is against the Empire than for it, Falkreath's Jarl was replaced by a corupt Imperial Jarl, Markarth is owned by Stormcloak supporters, Whiterun is on the fence until Tullius sends false reports, and Morthal doesn't give a damn lol.. Solitude is perhaps the only staunch supporter of the Empire, and even they have citizens that don't like you, hell your armor maker isn't even an Empire supporter lol. Valenwood is now Dominion territory BECAUSE of the Empires ignorance leading up to the great war, which has lead to, like I said before, an ethnic cleansing.. The Thalmor don't want to rule Tamriel, they're attempting to re-attain their supposed Divine status, by cutting off Talos/Lorkhan's hold on Mundus, to do this they need to abolish all Talos/Lorkhan worship so he ceases to exist as a God thus destroying Nirn completely. You're obviously very confused as to what their end game is...Yes and what did the Imperials sacrifice? The Empire has a history of treating provinces as expendable, Morrowind, Hammerfell, Valenwood(Currently going through a phase of ethnic cleansing, where's the Empire to help them?) and now Skyrim.. This strange concept that the Empire is the only thing capable of stopping the Thalmor and Skyrim is doomed without it, is quite frankly ridiculous. Ulfric's support is mostly from the way the Empire is treating Skyrim, not from the Talos ban(Well, they're sort of two in the same). Manipulating it's own citizens then arresting/sentencing them to death is what's caused the uprising, Imperials seem to forget it was the PEOPLE who sat Ulfric on the throne and cried out for justice/war, he didn't plonk him self on the throne and demand it from them.
The Imperials too sacrificed their right to worship Talos. I'm pretty sure the Thalmor are enforcing the ban in Cyrodiil as well. The Empire's "headquarters" is in Cyrodiil, so they'll defend Cyrodiil first of course? Besides, it wouldn't have changed the outcome in Oblivion if it hadn't been for Martin Septim - an IMPERIAL. Without his sacrifice Tamriel would have been overrun and conquered by Daedra. And, Valenwood? Seriously? Valenwood is Dominion territory. If even a single soldier stepped foot over the border he would be 1.) killed on the spot and 2.) the war would be back on. Remember that Valenwood is not an Imperial province anymore, and neither are Elsweyr/Anequina & Pelletine and the Summerset Isles/Alinor.
Ulfric was never supported by the people (even in Stormcloak territory there are plenty of NPCs who just want peace judging from their dialogue), just his personal army and a few idiots who couldn't keep their mouth shut. Well done, now there's an increased Thalmor presence and there you go, they are driving more members for your little club into Ulfric's arms.
Since it's pretty well known that the Thalmor want to rule Tamriel, and need to defeat the other provinces to achieve that goal, have you ever thought why they are doing their inquisitions? And why many Stormcloaks have a family member "gone missing"? Do you really think the Thalmor would give a damn about what necklaces people are wearing on the other side of the continent if it wouldn't serve them somehow?