@Dunken Mage
Well, I see everything's in order here. I'll be leaving now.
But before I do go, let's just get one thing clear shall we?
When the Imperial City fell, Cyrodil or the Empire, whatever ~ You lost your heart and your credibility. No one just sacks the "Imperial City". So you were humbled and let's face it, you were BEATEN. Humiliated. Robbed of your clothes and sent to run for your lives naked in the streets. Dead. Then the Emperor in his infinite wisdom remembered there was a province called "Skyrim". That's sarcasm btw. From Skyrim you were able to regroup and launch the final attack that probably did save us all from extinction. Skyrim was the "backbone" of the operation in nearly every way.
The Empire wasn't beaten after the Sack of the Imperial City, the main Cyrodiil army had retreated North to link up with reinforcements. The Empire was hardly "running naked in the streets" The Aldmeri Dominion tried to go for peace after they had taken the Imperial City, if the Empire was humiliated and beaten they would of taken it.
During the winter of 4E 174-175, the Thalmor seem to have believed that the war in Cyrodiil was all but over. They made several attempts to negotiate with Titus II.
Remembered a province called Skyrim? The Nords were involved in more than the Battle of the Red Ring, they had been sending soldiers a year before the sack of the Imperial City.
The year 4E 173 saw stiffening Imperial resistance in Cyrodiil, but the seemingly inexorable Aldmeri advance continued. Fresh legions from Skyrim bolstered the Emperor's main army in the Imperial City, but the Aldmeri forced the crossing of the Niben and began advancing in force up the eastern bank.
So we clothed you, we lifted you up, we told you everything is going to be alright...
... I don't even know how to respond to that.
Regardless, the Thalmor Defeated the Imperials and the Bretons and your precious Alik'r. Skyrim with our shield wall composed of Nords and Orcs formed the "tank", teh Shield Wall that brought the Elves to their knees, much the same way that Legion of "invalids" formed the "tank" which held back the Thalmor in Hammerfell enough for the Alik'r to have a chance and later they went on to Victory... Because of the Empire AND because Skyrim had enough skilled troops to take their place.
My point is, once IC fell you lost your heart...
The Thalmor didn't defeat the Imperials and Bretons, and Alik'r? That is a desert. The Thalmor defeated a desert? What did they do, make it rain? If you mean Alik'r warriors, then they certainly weren't defeated. Unless you kill them in 4E 201 during the quest in Whiterun.
The tank? It's a shield wall, not testudo formation. The Shield wall hardly brought the Elves to their knees, since they were running away from Titus Mede II's army. They were fleeing and were blocked by the Nord Legions.
Skyrim's Legions are the same as Cyrodiil Legions and High Rock Legions... they're all trained in the same way.
Once the Imperial City fell the Empire lost it's heart? More like it pissed them off, slaughtered every Dominion and had their Thalmor Lord hanging off the White-Gold Tower alive for thirty three days.
You "tore" out Skyrim's heart and left a hole in the wall. Rather than take responsibility for your "sins" and your own "failures". And it was a good heart, a very good heart and you don't deserve it. But that's ok, that's ok. A living dog is better than a dead lion. You guys fl*ff up next time, then both Skyrim and Cyrodil will be dead. If the Imperials don't learn from this and become more like the Stormcloaks, then the heart will become corrupt, Skyrim will become corrupt and everyone will be dead. There's ALOT of violence going on down in Cyrodil right now you know. And after Highrock being sacked by the Corsairs, Highrock doesn't have much left to give, although that was some years ago. Thousands of GOOD NORD'S are needlessly losing their lives on this war to keep the Empire alive. One GOOD MAN and Jarl will end up loosing his head to keep your a$$ in the game. There will be NO excuse next time.
Now you're going religious with sins. If Imperials become like Stormcloaks it will become corrupt. I'm having trouble knowing what or who you're defending. Imperial Legion isn't perfect but that opening scene, General Tullius ordering his men to get the towns people to safety. Imperial Soldiers trying to provide aid to the wounded, such as the Imperial Soldier and Vilod
(sp?) "The wounds are too deep Vilod, I can't stop the bleeding."
One good man and Jarl will end up losing their head? Are you calling Ulfric or Galmar a good man? Because neither truly are. One is obsessed with war and Ulfric Stormcloak has quite the innocent blood on his hands when he went crazy during the Markarth Incident, "With us or against us" Prime example of his ideology. Slaughtering of innocent men, women & children old enough to wield a sword. Because they didn't pick one up when his men breached the gates. At least the Legion doesn't demand citizens to pick up a sword or they will be killed.
I say let it roll, we'll play the numbers and I'll reluctantly go along with giving the Empire a second chance. For the sake of having the troops on the border at least and the repentance I noticed from General Tullius at the end. Because it wasn't fair what happened last time, the Empire was caught off guard. So now let's see if the Empire can fix things now that people are "awake" and Imperial forces appear to be moving to counter the next Great War. We'll see ~ As I've always said, "I will not be responsible for killing Talos's Empire". I also like how Legate Rikke and Gen Tullius complement each other, you can definitely feel there is a different "vibe" of compromise and mutual respect in the Imperial chain of command. Unlike with Ulfric, it's like Galmar is trying to push the man off a cliff. So sad. Best thing all around would be for the sides to work together, learn from each other.
Ulfric is an egomaniac who is obsessed with self image to the point he even ends up irritating Galmar over song and stories. The toying with General Tullius trying to create a dramatic moment for an ending to a song.
Don't think too highly of yourselves and stop hating on Ulfric and the Stormcloaks just because they resist you. The Thalmor know how to defeat Imperials but not Stormcloaks. If the Thalmor know your playbook you need to throw it away. Once this war is over you give thanks and honor the names of those who died so that you might live, wretch. Start taking notes from the Sons and Daughters of Skyrim and learn how to be HONORABLE again, forge a new HEART in the fires of righteous forbearance and next time take some fl*ffing RESPONSIBILITY for Talos sake!!!
Hating on Ulfric and the Stormcloaks because they resist the Empire? Hardly, people are against Ulfric because they see through his lies of caring about his people. When does slaughtering your own because they didn't pick up a sword, they weren't trained in fighting, many would of been terrified of the carnage. "With us or Against us" Hardly the words of Freedom fighters. Do Season Unending without even starting the Civil War, see how much Ulfric Stormcloak cares for his people when he's demanding land while dragons slaughter his countrymen and burn his land. When a leader calls going into peace talks as a sign of weakness, something is wrong. Peace isn't weakness, it takes a lot of strength. Should thousands more have died in the Great War, the Empire unable to even properly defend it's own borders during peace, they should of kept fighting to the point of self annihilation so a few grumpy old Nords who are sitting around in a Mead Hall can thump their chests saying "What a brave defeat of the Empire of Tiber Septim" While the Dominion could simply march unopposed, doing more of what they did during the Sack of the Imperial City on the innocent populations.
AND ABOVE ALL ELSE NEVER FORGET the sacrifices Skyrim has made over the years for DEAD MEN *maggots*, drowning in the filth of your own lies and corruption who don't deserve to live.
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!!!
Sacrifices Skyrim has made? You mean invading their own neighbors while a part of the Empire, taking land from Hammerfell and High Rock. Fighting against the Septim Empress in the War of the Red Diamond?
Sacrifices Skyrim has made... More like the sacrifices the Imperium has made trying to handle the province of Skyrim. It's about time the Legion is there cutting off heads, you went on about fair trials before... Violence is the way of Nordic life. Why do you think they're your best friend after you beat them half to death with your bare hands? They understand violence.
Now you're back to "Long live the Empire" ?
Make up your mind and pick a side, else you'll end up fighting off both Imperials and Stormcloaks in the thread.
