Gunnbjorn
Formerly known as Arillious
Not really, I didn't say my argument was the absolute truth, only what I find it to be more likely.
Uhm........no, they did attack Sarthal, and they did commit several atrocities against the atmoran settlers.
However, "The Night Of Tears" seems rather tame compared to forcing an entire civilization to crawl underground, those actions don't even have a fancy name, as a wise woman once said, the worst kinds of tragedies can't have no name nor words to describe them.
I.....wasn't insulting you when I said you were making a dangerous assumption, just to be clear.
Regardless, I mostly agree with this part, the nords kicked the pl*** out of the snow elves, and they probably ended up burying the eye in the end, considering how it's The College itself that later uncovers it.
Now, what followed later, that is quite inexcusable to me, and it begs me to look at a pattern that seems rather forced by nord tradition, the idea that battle and war is "glorious" seems to be rather destructive to anyone who isn't a nord, as a result, we have several groups throughout Skyrim's history that have served as instigators for several conflicts, Ysgramor and the atmoran settlers being the notable exception.......so to speak.
OH COME ON !
*crosses arms and sits angrily*
But yes, this debate is over, at this point we would just be disagreeing with each others opinion on the motives of people from history.
A lot of what you posted here I agree with, I can't argue against the patterns in Nord tradition, the glory that Nords find in battle, or many Nords being instigators in several conflicts.
My motives behind this argument was to defend my one Nord Idol, Ysgramor - and to try to prove to you that he is a Nord who justified the war(s) he was involved in, and judging by that last sentence, I may or may not have accomplished that.