What gender are the dragons? (RP)

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Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
I've always wonder what gender are the dragons, and how do they reproduce without a reproduction organs? Alduin doesn't have a unit and neither do our favorite dragon, Paarthurnax. Are they genderless?

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I actually feel sorry for them, I truly do. I don't blame them for wanting to tear down a villages.
 

The Hungry Orc

Master of the Pyre
35% of my mind lol'd at that drawing on the picture.

I think the majority of dragons in the game are male, and that they're just mystical creatures who don't have any family jewels.
 

Dagmar

Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
I've always wonder what gender are the dragons, and how do they reproduce without a reproduction organs? Alduin doesn't have a unit and neither do our favorite dragon, Paarthurnax. Are they genderless?
Good lord what did they teach you in biology? Not all species genitalia, including reptiles, resembles that of mammals. That doesn't mean they don't have any or that they are genderless.

Asking what gender are dragons doesn't really make any sense because they either have gender, meaning they can be either male or female, or they are genderless. Since NPCs refer to Alduin, Paarthurnax and Odahviing with masculine pronouns and adjectives I'm assuming that they do have gender, although they could simply be using them as defaults in which case that might mean that they are genderless.
 
Most reptiles have no visible external genetalia, so simply looking at them will not help. Unless there are known secondary sexual characteristics shown by one sex, but not the other , then you need to autopsy the dragons you kill and look for ovaries or testes. Of course the fact they all burn up when killed will complicate the process.
 

Exelex

Member
Good lord what did they teach you in biology? Not all species genitalia, including reptiles, resembles that of mammals. That doesn't mean they don't have any or that they are genderless.Asking what gender are dragons doesn't really make any sense because they either have gender, meaning they can be either male or female, or they are genderless. Since NPCs refer to Alduin, Paarthurnax and Odahviing with masculine pronouns and adjectives I'm assuming that they do have gender, although they could simply be using them as defaults in which case that might mean that they are genderless.
Most reptiles have no visible external genetalia, so simply looking at them will not help. Unless there are known secondary sexual characteristics shown by one sex, but not the other , then you need to autopsy the dragons you kill and look for ovaries or testes. Of course the fact they all burn up when killed will complicate the process.
Still, I can't see any means of dragons reproducing. Remember that we are talking about mythological creatures here.
 

Dagmar

Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
According to the book There Be Dragons, Dragons do not mate or breed (I completely forgot about the book before I posted earlier) so I guess they are genderless.
 

Exelex

Member
I assume that they are born in a manner similar to Akatosh, since he is considered the father of all dragons.
 

Lizzifer

Watch out for hop-ons.
They're all asexual, just like dinosaurs.

How come no one ever recreates dinosaurs with genitals, anyway? Or do their parts retract so internally that... you know what? Nevermind.
 

Neriad13

Premium Member
Read the book already! It's under the counter of The Sleeping Giant.

There Be Dragons

The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel of if they were exterminated.
There is no credible story of how dragons came to be. According to dremora that the College of Whispers have "questioned," they just were, and are. Eternal, immortal, unchanging, and unyielding. They are not born or hatched. They do not mate or breed. There are no known examples of dragon eggs or dragonlings. The Iliac Bay area has stories of such things, but so far all have proven false. The eggs turned out to be eggs of other reptiles. The small dragons were merely oversized lizards and no relation to true dragons.
Although they are not born, dragons can die. During the Dragon War of the Merethic Era, their numbers were decimated. The Akaviri invaders of the late First Era are said to have hunted and killed scores of them, before and after their defeat by Emperor Reman. Some sources say the Akaviri brought over dragon-killing spells. Others claim they built cunning traps. One tale even speaks of a rare poison.
It is well accepted that a dragon's most fearsome weapon is its fiery breath. Because they could fly overhead and rain down flaming death, archers and wizards were necessary when hunting them. It is less well known that some dragons could breathe a freezing spray of frost. The reports indicate that a dragon might do one of the other, but not both.
Most people think of dragons as mere beasts. However, logically they must have had language in order for Tiber Septim to have negotiated with them. Indeed, the historical record is quite clear that dragons were highly intelligent. They had their own language, but could also speak the languages of men and elves.
The records of Reman's hunts contain reports of dragons that breathe or spit fire. Recently some were unearthed that described dragons blowing freezing blasts of cold. The more fanciful tales have them summoning storms and even stopping time. These should be discounted as myths and faery tales. Even without this most fearsome weapon, their nearly impenetrable hide and granite-like teeth and claws made them terrifying opponents.
There is some confusion over when the last dragon was killed. It seems the last few vanished all at once. Some tales speak of a dragon king who devoured all of them rather than let manking kill them. One of the more far-fetched stories has Tiber Septim absorbing their essences when he ascended to godhood. Although the exact cause is unknown, they are all gone. No dragon has been seen for centuries. There are a few known examples of dragon bones fused with the stone and rocks of cliffs and cave. Just enough proof to make the stories undeniable.

Personally, I kinda/sorta think that all dragons are aspects of Akatosh and more of divine origin than fleshly.
 

Squirrel_killer-

The blade in the dark and the hand at your throat
I assume that they are born in a manner similar to Akatosh, since he is considered the father of all dragons.
Unlikely, as Akatosh takes on the form as a dragon as an avatar and is not a dragon himself. He is in fact an Aedra, which are powerful gods, and were formed by the "blood" of Anu and Padomay. Aedra in there pure form have been described as planet like, and came into being long before the creation of Mundus, which the Aedra themselves are responsible for. No new Aedra could likely come into existence now that Anu and Padomay are outside Time itself with no known way to return from this beyond.
 

VonCrown

Member
Unlikely, as Akatosh takes on the form as a dragon as an avatar and is not a dragon himself. He is in fact an Aedra, which are powerful gods, and were formed by the "blood" of Anu and Padomay. Aedra in there pure form have been described as planet like, and came into being long before the creation of Mundus, which the Aedra themselves are responsible for. No new Aedra could likely come into existence now that Anu and Padomay are outside Time itself with no known way to return from this beyond.

Well, it's a little more complicated than that even, but it's safe to say that no more aedra can come to be. All spirits came from Anu and Padomay, and are divided into Aedra ("our ancestors" in a particular ancient elven dialect) and Daedra ("not our ancestors" in the same). The Aedra are termed as such because they were the spirits involved in Lorkhan's plan to create Mundus, and as such being responsible for the eventual rise of mer and men.
Now, barring perhaps an exceptionally severe dragon break rewriting the very creation of Mundus, any new spirits that come to be in the modern age could obviously not participate in the creation of Mundus, and thus it is quite impossible for new Aedra to come into being.

Also, on the origins of dragons, it is worth noting the Empire of Ka Po' Tun in Akavir. While accounts of Akavir in Tamriel should be taken with a grain of salt, it is said that the empire is ruled by Tosh Raka, one of the native tiger-folk who succeeded in becoming a dragon, supposedly. How accurate this is, and what it could potentially mean about the nature of dragons is potentially intriguing, I find. Perhaps Tosh Raka was also a dragonborn? It is possible that either he then ascended into a fully draconic form, or perhaps the accounts are merely a colorful mistranslation of his mastery of the voice.
 

TheHaydz242

Member
Why are you talking about Dragon dicks....who cares..
 

Phenomenal TJ

The One And Only
Am I the only one who's not complaining that he's not seeing giant dicks on his loading screens?
 

Squirrel_killer-

The blade in the dark and the hand at your throat
Well, it's a little more complicated than that even, but it's safe to say that no more aedra can come to be. All spirits came from Anu and Padomay, and are divided into Aedra ("our ancestors" in a particular ancient elven dialect) and Daedra ("not our ancestors" in the same). The Aedra are termed as such because they were the spirits involved in Lorkhan's plan to create Mundus, and as such being responsible for the eventual rise of mer and men.
Now, barring perhaps an exceptionally severe dragon break rewriting the very creation of Mundus, any new spirits that come to be in the modern age could obviously not participate in the creation of Mundus, and thus it is quite impossible for new Aedra to come into being.

Also, on the origins of dragons, it is worth noting the Empire of Ka Po' Tun in Akavir. While accounts of Akavir in Tamriel should be taken with a grain of salt, it is said that the empire is ruled by Tosh Raka, one of the native tiger-folk who succeeded in becoming a dragon, supposedly. How accurate this is, and what it could potentially mean about the nature of dragons is potentially intriguing, I find. Perhaps Tosh Raka was also a dragonborn? It is possible that either he then ascended into a fully draconic form, or perhaps the accounts are merely a colorful mistranslation of his mastery of the voice.
I was giving a summarized version since 11:40 is late when you wake up at 4 am
 

Serebro Moniker

He who moves it moves it
I don't think dragons reproduce. They were created at the beginning of time, and weren't meant to ever die. There wasn't supposed to be a need for them to reproduce. The Dragonborns fluffed that up, however.
 

Mi-Ilu Yahaz

Active Member
in some lore, dragons do have male and female genders, however, the males are capable of carrying and laying eggs as well if the female population were to drop drastically. kinda like certain reptiles. don't ask me how they deliver, cause im SOOOOOOOOOOO not going there.
 

Tosh Raka

Tiger Dragon of Ka'Po'Tun
Well, it's a little more complicated than that even, but it's safe to say that no more aedra can come to be. All spirits came from Anu and Padomay, and are divided into Aedra ("our ancestors" in a particular ancient elven dialect) and Daedra ("not our ancestors" in the same). The Aedra are termed as such because they were the spirits involved in Lorkhan's plan to create Mundus, and as such being responsible for the eventual rise of mer and men.
Now, barring perhaps an exceptionally severe dragon break rewriting the very creation of Mundus, any new spirits that come to be in the modern age could obviously not participate in the creation of Mundus, and thus it is quite impossible for new Aedra to come into being.

Also, on the origins of dragons, it is worth noting the Empire of Ka Po' Tun in Akavir. While accounts of Akavir in Tamriel should be taken with a grain of salt, it is said that the empire is ruled by Tosh Raka, one of the native tiger-folk who succeeded in becoming a dragon, supposedly. How accurate this is, and what it could potentially mean about the nature of dragons is potentially intriguing, I find. Perhaps Tosh Raka was also a dragonborn? It is possible that either he then ascended into a fully draconic form, or perhaps the accounts are merely a colorful mistranslation of his mastery of the voice.

Never speak my name unless given permission to, mortal.
 

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