Okay going through the walls like that doesnt seem right.
The dawnstar chest is truly hidden and you have to know where to look to find it. I will use this chest but i dont think traveling through the walls is legit.
Did not know of this Whiterun barrell. Must go check.
This one works on the 360.
I did find it rather odd that they can be so far from the merchants, why not just put them in solid rock? I guess you could use that logic to say all the glitches were meant to be found. Did they really want people duping armor, leveling to 81 in 30 mins with OI, etc?Of course all of them are meant to be found, if they weren't meant to be found then nobody would find them.
If you fast travel into Whiterun, go right from the gate and there will be a little room kind of, with a lone barrel in it. Jump from the barrel towards the Whiterun gate, you'll see the low wall you are trying to clear. I can take a ton of tries. Check it on youtube.where exactly is this barrel in whiterun?
Yea...that barrel. First try, I managed to do it. Ever since then...it's been a bitch.
I'm ok with using the Dawnstar chest, but if I have to go through a wall to get something then I feel like I'm using an exploit.
I did find it rather odd that they can be so far from the merchants, why not just put them in solid rock? I guess you could use that logic to say all the glitches were meant to be found. Did they really want people duping armor, leveling to 81 in 30 mins with OI, etc?
Glitches and exploits in a single player game shouldn't even matter. It's your experience. If you want to use glitches and such to help you, then so be it.
Now, on a Multiplayer game, it's a different story.
Same here. I like having the option. If I am getting sick of grinding out my next skill levels, its nice to use a quick exploit or just gain 5 skill levels instead with OI.I totally agree.
This is very true: as long as people don't brag about how great they are, when they have achieved their status using glitches and/or PC console cheats.Glitches and exploits in a single player game shouldn't even matter. It's your experience. If you want to use glitches and such to help you, then so be it.
Now, on a Multiplayer game, it's a different story.
If they weren't meant to be found then you wouldn't be able to access them now after 4 patches. I didn't know about this one & I've heard of the Dawnstar Chest but haven't tried it yet.
This is very true: as long as people don't brag about how great they are, when they have achieved their status using glitches and/or PC console cheats.
Most glitches are not intended by the programmers: you can't always anticipate how players will think.
Many!! years ago I wrote a game that involved sailing galleons to find riches. One of the options was to throw stuff overboard, to limit the probability of sinking in a storm. One of my play-testers immediately sailed out of port: stopped and clicked 'throw items overboard', then clicked on 'jewels' and entered -500 boxes. The program obligingly hauled 500 boxes of jewels out of the ocean and placed them in the hold.
The point is that programmers generally expect players to act rationally within the scope of the game but can seldom anticipate all of the ways players will find to circumvent the process.
Bottom line for me: just because you *can* do something using the game mechanics doesn't mean it is appropriate to do so. Eventually, it is up to you: if you gain satisfaction winning by utilizing glitches or outright cheats, then that is your choice, no one else is harmed. On the other hand, don't brag that you reached the 100 level in a skill by abusing the possibilities; it doesn't impress anyone.