Lady Redpool the Unlifer
Pyro, Spirits Connoisseur, and Soulless Anarchist
Yea, but while the dems play rougher, the republicans play for keeps. Or I'm just a lunatic, probably the second one.
Is the United States headed for a revolution?
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Medea
The Shadow Queen
You mean like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter......etc....etc...etc...? Yet they remain to be the face of the modern day republican party.
And just where did you get that statistic from?
I undermine the republican party where it deserves to be undermined. I'm not as biased as you might think. I don't agree with gun banning. I don't agree with political correctness. You seem to think I am out to get every conservative on the planet for some reason...No, just the stupid ones.
When I said this, I meant this kind of outrage never comes from the right when a republican president is in office.
Democrats have played rougher? Are you joking? The only republicans who even make it as candidates now are the extreme. Obama isn't even close to them for how extreme he is, otherwise he would've used executive orders every time he didn't get his way instead of trying to get the republicans on board with his ideas and letting them block/filibuster them time and time again. I WISH Obama was as extreme as the right thinks he is.
Lady Redpool the Unlifer
Pyro, Spirits Connoisseur, and Soulless Anarchist
As for liberals being anti-american, let me give you an example of WHY people believe them when they say that kind of stuff:
I'm back in high school doing a fundraiser for JROTC. We're pretty well known in the community for various community service projects and generally being awesome people. I ask a man if he's willing to help support the local JROTC. His response? "I'm a liberal, I don't support the military in any way." Seriously, people like that are why.
At the same time, conservatives are out of touch? Some, maybe the majority are, but not all. That's the same generalization as above just flipped.
I'm not tryin to knock you or anything, just I have a pretty highish opinion of you based on your other posts and contributions, and that biased generalization really caused me to double check who posted it.
Medea
The Shadow Queen
Yeah, but there are extreme cases on the right as well. I never said ALL conservatives are bad. This thread is about 44% of them who think a revolution may be happening. I have lots of conservative friends. They don't mind a little back and forth arguing. I'm just passionate about what I believe in and sometimes I say things that might offend people. I can't help it. I don't even care if they are doomsday preppers and think Obama is the Anti-Christ. I don't agree with it, but I can be nasty, just like they can be with their own accusations. I don't mean to offend anyone personally. I realize there are some liberals out there that are anti-military and really do hate anything to do with the military. I'm not one of those nuts.
Besides Rednek, I've seen many of your posts too.
So what if I'm a snarky biatch sometimes? haha
Lady Redpool the Unlifer
Pyro, Spirits Connoisseur, and Soulless Anarchist
Lol, let me direct you to that wonderful bit of text below my pic. That should explain my posts.Yeah, but there are extreme cases on the right as well. I never said ALL conservatives are bad. This thread is about 44% of them who think a revolution may be happening. I have lots of conservative friends. They don't mind a little back and forth arguing. I'm just passionate about what I believe in and sometimes I say things that might offend people. I can't help it. I don't even care if they are doomsday preppers and think Obama is the Anti-Christ. I don't agree with it, but I can be nasty, just like they can be with their own accusations. I don't mean to offend anyone personally. I realize there are some liberals out there that are anti-military and really do hate anything to do with the military. I'm not one of those nuts.
Besides Rednek, I've seen many of your posts too.
I do get where you're coming from, and can appreciate it as well. Nothin wrong with bein that way every once in awhile, just remember that while you're waving your umbrella at someone, you're getting rained on.
Now I should probably go double check my end-of-the-world-bunker is stocked and throw holy water at a picture of obama
Medea
The Shadow Queen
Lansworthy
Lacklusterous
I see it this way.
Republicans plops talk Democrats, Democrats plops talk Republicans.
Both sides wage war on each other ideals, whether they be good or bad.
Both sides care more about their fund-raising and getting money then actually fixing the country.
Will an armed Revolution solve it? No...people are greedy and naturally aggressive, it'd solve one issue and bring up many more.
Republicans plops talk Democrats, Democrats plops talk Republicans.
Both sides wage war on each other ideals, whether they be good or bad.
Both sides care more about their fund-raising and getting money then actually fixing the country.
Will an armed Revolution solve it? No...people are greedy and naturally aggressive, it'd solve one issue and bring up many more.
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Two words Medea. President Truman.
But in all seriousness, is it really such a bad thing that Obama wants to convince his opponents he's right? Sure, there are issues worth forcing, but debate and compromise is what democracy is built on. If you don't like it, there's always North Korea.
Medea
The Shadow Queen
Actually I think it just proves he isn't nearly as extreme as people think he is. But, let me tell you, if I were president right now, Gitmo would be gone and the rich would be getting taxed the extra 4%. Sometimes you can be too nicey nicey. The unwillingness of the right to compromise in these situations cancels out Obama's willingness to bring people together, and it's bad for the country. Sometimes you have to be more aggressive for the better of the nation. FDR comes to mind. Lincoln comes to mind. They didn't compromise that much, because they knew they were right and to hell with people that wouldn't compromise anyway. That's how I see it.
I apologize that I was a little heated when I first entered this thread. As for the 97% thing, I heard it somewhere, did a little research and common sense thinking, and came to the conclusion that it is true. Governments are always looking out for PR oppurtunities, and they aren't above fabricating statistics. Everyone wants their side to look the best. It's the same with most global censuses, with every country puffing itself up to look bigger than it really is.
As for Democrats being more agressive, I was meaning during most debates between the parties. When confronted with major issues, the morons my party chooses as candidates give terribly mild responses. Albeit I cannot remember a specific moment off the top of my head, but when attacked with major issues like abortion some of their responses were absurd. Something about if you can't do anything about it you might as well enjoy it? Democrats have been very up front and even blowing things out of proportion, while republicans fail to refute them time and time again.
To assume that any president or party goes without dissention and persecution is just plain false.
As for Democrats being more agressive, I was meaning during most debates between the parties. When confronted with major issues, the morons my party chooses as candidates give terribly mild responses. Albeit I cannot remember a specific moment off the top of my head, but when attacked with major issues like abortion some of their responses were absurd. Something about if you can't do anything about it you might as well enjoy it? Democrats have been very up front and even blowing things out of proportion, while republicans fail to refute them time and time again.
To assume that any president or party goes without dissention and persecution is just plain false.
Medea
The Shadow Queen
It's okay if it gets a little heated. Don't feel bad about it. I have strong opinions on politics and it inspires strong criticism.
Much of what I say is meant to be a little bit insulting to the GOP, but I don't mean to attack individuals on the forums.
It's not that big of a deal, I just couldn't resist throwing in my opinion, and felt a few things were being misrepresented. Now let's not start a chain of apologies here.It's okay if it gets a little heated. Don't feel bad about it. I have strong opinions on politics and it inspires strong criticism.
Much of what I say is meant to be a little bit insulting to the GOP, but I don't mean to attack individuals on the forums.
Bottom line, nothing as of yet is enough to start a revolution. If there was, I doubt our own soldiers would shoot on us, and I doubt most people, except the most radical, would shoot on them. However, some people just tend to be gullible enough to follow these radicalistsl's lead. I can imagine them feeding people lies about how soldiers are some kind of evil villains.
Lmao. I got an add about gun control! My mobile device is trying to tell me something...
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Soldiers aren't evil villains. It's the politicians that create situations where they're needed, or think they're needed.
The truth is, a revolution is very personal. These aren't foreign enemies. They are friends, family and neighbors. It's why Americans have been involved in over a dozen wars, but had only one civil war. If Britain was closer to home, it may have taken more for the revolution to begin, or it may have never gotten that bad in the first place.
Cylos
The Last Dragonborn
I'm going to try and keep this concise. I personally as a Socialist would not want to live in America, it's far too right wing and no matter what Republican media and Fox News may tell you I'm not a mass murderer/Stalinist/Facsist/hater of civil liberties.
- America is not left and right with the political parties. The Democrats are right wing and the republicans are very right wing.
- Example for Democrats being right wing- 'Obamacare' is no where near Socialist or even Liberal, if it was it'd be like our NHS over at Britain. 'Obamacare' simply made it easier for people to get health insurance. Oh and a little bonus fact, the American government pays more for its health service than Britain does and the NHS is state controlled. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/financ...overnment-spends-more-on-health-than-the-nhs/ The link being from a British right wing newspaper.
Crooksin
Glue Sniffer
Lmao, do people actually think an armed revolution is needed? By armed revolution I'm thinking the type that is going on in Syria or the recent one in Libya and those of that nature.
In a very turbulent time? Yeah. Headed for a decline? For sure, if America isn't already in one. I think its too early to tell in what direction America could go, it could very easily save itself if the right people start the process now, keywords, right people. To put it in perspective, I don't think Obama is that person, he's just better suited for the job than his opponents. I see a lot of wolf tickets being sold.
But armed revolution? Where's my tin foil hat ...
There it is.
In a very turbulent time? Yeah. Headed for a decline? For sure, if America isn't already in one. I think its too early to tell in what direction America could go, it could very easily save itself if the right people start the process now, keywords, right people. To put it in perspective, I don't think Obama is that person, he's just better suited for the job than his opponents. I see a lot of wolf tickets being sold.
But armed revolution? Where's my tin foil hat ...
There it is.
devildriver1134
New Member
I just came upon this thread and had to add my two cents.
I highly doubt a revolution is coming based on current politics or gun control. There are conflicting opinions, sure, but only a very small minority are militant. If that minority were to literally call to arms against the government, no matter which side, they'd be dispatched in the blink of an eye by the military.
That said, I do believe there's SOMETHING brewing in this country and it boils down to money issues. Corporations in this country are making record profits, paying 0% effective tax rates, and Higher-ups are financially raping the lower rungs of the employee ladder.
We're foregoing education to pay ridiculous amounts of money for different things, not the least of which is the insane amount of our defense budget. Our country spends more money on defense than the next SEVENTEEN developed countries combined. That. Is. Insane.
I tend to fall to the liberal side of politics but add to everything above that you can cut snippets from Presidential debates and realize that they're saying the exact same things. In the end, it all comes down to the same issue: Money. There is a current Senator, who will work only about 1/3 of the year but makes exponentially more than the common workforce, fighting to end overtime for those workers.
If you'd like to continue looking at asinine politicians, the most recent Republican Presidential candidate argued against, and promised to repeal, Obamacare. This is the same person who passed a universal healthcare law in his state that was more liberal and encompassing than Obamacare.
So, in defense of the OP, I distinctly recall demonizing of anyone that criticized the government during the Bush era. This was more toward the 9/11 era of his presidency than toward the end, but there was most certainly widespread hatred for anyone who spoke ill of America, its President, or even its government. David Cross satirizes the period quite well in a bit on his album "Shut up, you F'ing Baby."
I highly doubt a revolution is coming based on current politics or gun control. There are conflicting opinions, sure, but only a very small minority are militant. If that minority were to literally call to arms against the government, no matter which side, they'd be dispatched in the blink of an eye by the military.
That said, I do believe there's SOMETHING brewing in this country and it boils down to money issues. Corporations in this country are making record profits, paying 0% effective tax rates, and Higher-ups are financially raping the lower rungs of the employee ladder.
We're foregoing education to pay ridiculous amounts of money for different things, not the least of which is the insane amount of our defense budget. Our country spends more money on defense than the next SEVENTEEN developed countries combined. That. Is. Insane.
I tend to fall to the liberal side of politics but add to everything above that you can cut snippets from Presidential debates and realize that they're saying the exact same things. In the end, it all comes down to the same issue: Money. There is a current Senator, who will work only about 1/3 of the year but makes exponentially more than the common workforce, fighting to end overtime for those workers.
If you'd like to continue looking at asinine politicians, the most recent Republican Presidential candidate argued against, and promised to repeal, Obamacare. This is the same person who passed a universal healthcare law in his state that was more liberal and encompassing than Obamacare.
So, in defense of the OP, I distinctly recall demonizing of anyone that criticized the government during the Bush era. This was more toward the 9/11 era of his presidency than toward the end, but there was most certainly widespread hatred for anyone who spoke ill of America, its President, or even its government. David Cross satirizes the period quite well in a bit on his album "Shut up, you F'ing Baby."
FullmetalHeart20
Well-Known Member
Not just money issues. Just look at the stuff people are coming up with.
http://m.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/handcuffs-deliver-electric-shocks/
http://m.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/handcuffs-deliver-electric-shocks/
