***** Faulty Lockpicking Equipment *****

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Wraypau

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Lockpicking has always been a thorn in my side. I decided a long time ago that I was not going to spend useless perks on Lockpicking, because I was getting strong enough to enchant my own lockpicking equipment.

So here is the deal. I have all 4 peices of Enchanted Lockpicking Equipment available. I believe its a ring, necklace, gloves, and helmet. I have skill of 100 in Enchantment, and all 4 peices of my Lockpicking Equipment has an increase of "Lockpicking is 40% easier". So I am thinking 40% x 4 = 160%.

I can also make potions that make lockpicking 55% easier, so lets throw that in also, we now have a 195% increase in lockpicking.

I also activated the Theif stone, which improves Lockpicking by 20%. So now, I have over 200% increase. Seems like the locks would fall off the door when they see me coming. WRONG!!!

I was stuck on a lock last night (Master), and when I walked up to it, I hade +99 picks. I swallowed my lockpicking formula, and went to town. I was at level 49 or so in lockpicking at this time. Well after all my lockpicks where gone, I was pissed, I knew something was wrong. I went back to the theif guild to get more training in lockpicking and more lockpicks. Luckly, there were several in the chest at the foots of beds, and there is a lady there that sels around 30 at a time, wait 2 days, 30 more....

While i was looting the chests at the theif guild, there is a room with 4 or 5 chests in it, 3 of them are locked. I figured WTH, lets try and break all the picks and build a level up so I can get more lockpick training, and get another lockpick perk. (***Note*** I did not have any of my lockpicking gear on) I took a lockpicking potion, and went to town on a master lock, boom like 3rd try, the thing opens, Im thinking I got lucky. I move on to the next, an expert, boom 3rd or 4th try, it flings open... (Ok, so I am scratching my head now) I move on to the apprentice lock, which I have a perk to make apprentice and novice easier, and put on all my lockpicking gear... After around 15-20 picks, I exit out, take off my gear, then reopen the lock screen. First try It opens right up...

Now I am getting really curious, so I stock up on lockpicks again, buy 30 wait 2 days, buy 30. I head back to the lock that started all this, i tried another 30-40 times with my lockpicking gear and potion, but cannot get the lock open. then I take it all off, and just have the potion working... Again 4-5 picks later, it swings right open. Once inside, there is another lock, same scenerio...


I have finally came to the conclusion that to much lockpicking equipment will actually hurt you. I tested, on a master lock, with no equipment or potion, it took 7-8 picks. with potion 3-5, with equipment and potion, over 200 picks later, the lock never opened ???
 

Rayven

Global Moderator
Staff member
I wonder if the math is broken and the bonus flips negative after a certain point.
 

Wraypau

Member
Thats my thought exactly. I really think its impossible to pick a lock when you are at that much of increase to lockpicking. i literally spend around 4 hrs last night, trying to get into GoldenGlow Estates back door. (Theif Guild "Loud and clear")... I have since tested, and it really seems impossible.

Heres another one for you, I have Pickpocket equipment also, all 4 peices, and was going to pickpoctet the guys at the theif guild lodge, to get their lockpicks, before i thought about buying the 30, wait 2, buy 30...

Anyways, they were asleep, and I went ot pickpocket them, they all where at 89% chance to steal, when i put on my equipment, it goes to 90%. Thats only 1 % increase. Now i think all my pickpocket equipment is a 40% incease also. i need to test it more tonight but, i think it might be bugged the same way also.
 

Barryl85

New Member
Dam ! I just pickpocketed someones silver ring with 15% Easier Lockpicking and was going to disenchant it and create lockpicking gear, now i'm not sure I will bother - havent found a master lock though but I have picked all expert locks with ease.
 

Wraypau

Member
when i get home tonight, I will try it with one peice of gear, 2 peices, 3 peices, potions, etc... See if there is a lmit to it, or if its some kind of glitch... Either way, dont drop the Soul Gems and loot to make 4 peices, doesnt work out to well.

I was trying to limit up last night, and get lockpicking perks, because this has been a thorn in my side... Now, i will just carry about 10 lokcpicking potions, and sell the gear. I cna get into any lock 7 picks or less, with potion alone. Dont waste no more perks on lokcpicking, I wasted 2 last night... ARGH!!!
 

Wraypau

Member
Here's another something I figured out, since i was trying to level up, and get perks for lockpicking. I have built my character to be a two handed tank, my Conjuration skill was at 19, so i went ot my chest of goodies, and got out my best magika regeneration robes and helmet. Every where I went, I would throw Muffle into the air, just as fast as my magic would reappear. In towns, running around collecting ingredients, etc... Well At first, every thing i casted it, it would level up, around lvl 30 or so, it took 2 casts per lvl up, around lvl 40, 3 casts, and lvl 50, 4-5 casts... I think I finally quit around lvl 60ish... It took me less than an hr or 2 of this to lvl up over 40...

Not really a glitch, but very easy to level up in.
 

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