I actually don't count his power grab as much as allowing his hold to fall to plopse because he's out there playing Rebel. Yeah, he speaks about injustice, and patriotism, but I get the feeling he just thinks he's better than anyone else, even the nords. So give him a dishonorable mention for He Who Fights Monsters. I can't give him any award, even a boobie prize, because he's bound to accept it on behalf of his people, or somesuch nonsense.
SPOILERS FROM THE THIEVES GUILD QUEST LINE just in case someone hasn't done the quest yet
I'll actually have to say Karliah, and this is why:
She puts an arrow in your chest...Made a "split second decision" my a**! Mercer was right there! I'm sure you could have shot him if instead if you really wanted to. Even worse is the fact that she expects you to be grateful.....for getting shot! Because after all, that poison did take her a yeeeear to perfect.
She lures you into nightingale hall without ever telling you why, even after getting the nightingale armor on, she just keeps leading you deeper into the cave only to reveal that the purpose of you being there, is to basically give your soul to Nocturnal.
And that has nothing to do with Mercer, we could have beaten him without having to sell our souls, it is my firm belief that Karliah did all that just to regain Nocturnals favor. The whole "but Mercer is a nightingale and we can't defeat him without giving up our souls" is just total bs. She wanted to get back on Nocturnals good side so she sold you out.
I know a lot of people like Karliah but I'm just not feeling her. The whole nightingale thing just ruined the TG quest line for me.
That was brave. I thought of her, but I get enough flames on here already. She doesn't sound sexy, unless you like Emphasema. And yeah, if you were thinking with your brain instead of an organ lower on your body, it could have been you sticking it to Mercer when he was down. Then, you could have skipped off with her to the Nightingales as your reward. Oh, and why doesn't Brynjolf want to be Guildmaster? So the Dragonborn can, of course, but it's so out of character for him. It's like Han Solo turning down the Millenium Falcon because he cheated Lando in cards.SPOILERS FROM THE THIEVES GUILD QUEST LINE just in case someone hasn't done the quest yet
I'll actually have to say Karliah, and this is why:
She puts an arrow in your chest...Made a "split second decision" my a**! Mercer was right there! I'm sure you could have shot him if instead if you really wanted to. Even worse is the fact that she expects you to be grateful.....for getting shot! Because after all, that poison did take her a yeeeear to perfect.
She lures you into nightingale hall without ever telling you why, even after getting the nightingale armor on, she just keeps leading you deeper into the cave only to reveal that the purpose of you being there, is to basically give your soul to Nocturnal.
And that has nothing to do with Mercer, we could have beaten him without having to sell our souls, it is my firm belief that Karliah did all that just to regain Nocturnals favor. The whole "but Mercer is a nightingale and we can't defeat him without giving up our souls" is just total bs. She wanted to get back on Nocturnals good side so she sold you out.
I know a lot of people like Karliah but I'm just not feeling her. The whole nightingale thing just ruined the TG quest line for me.
This is "I CAN'T UNDERSTAND BANE" all over again
It's not Karliah's accent I have trouble with, it's how quietly she speaks.
Had to read that a couple times, as I'm unfamiliar with that idiom. Regardless, when do you get to "Dance" with Karliah? After she poisons you, lets Mercer get away, gets you to do her bidding what do you get out of it from her? A peck on the cheek? No. Better to follow your brain than be led around by your... Leash.
Same here, Mercer's not on my personal hate list because he just IS so damned hilarious as a follower and as a character overall. I've actually used the follower exploit on Xbox for months now with him, in that I've had him accompanying me as an extra follower in addition to my standard one (whoever that happens to be at the time, currently it's Teldryn). He's invincible, which is nice, and his commentary in battle is priceless. He's been a blast to use for 'Dragonborn'. On PC at least I can use the UFO mod and have him whenever.
For the record, I don't much care for Karliah or Nocturnal. I actually kinda think Mercer was on to something during that little rant/speech he gives you later. I wanna punch Nocturnal in the face, to be honest.
