El Fonz0
Active Member
This is why I hate these debates.
Everyone assumes. Everyone thinks their opinion is fact.
Everyone who opposes the Stormcloaks states they are xenophobic, racist, barbarians who would easily get slaughtered if Skyrim became independent.
But what proof is there?
The Nords have proven they can defend against impossible odds, i.e.; the Night of Tears, where the Snow Elves attacked Saarthal, but the Nords still managed to defeat the Elves because of their higher population growth.
Yes, the Dark Elves living in Windhelm have it bad, but have you seen some of the important political figures and people living in Stormcloak cities? The Housecarl of Sorli, the Stormcloak Jarl of Morthal, is an Argonian. The Steward of Winterhold is a Dark Elf. The Steward and Court Wizard of Riften are both Elves. There are four High Elves living in Windhelm; a couple working at the stables, a merchant, and an alchemist. There is a Dark Elven bard working at Windhelm's inn. There is a Dark Elven sailor on the Northwind, walking around town.
Somewhat unrelated, but in the in-game files, the Dark Elf mage living in Kynesgrove would have been the replacement Court Wizard should Wuunharth had died.
After Nords, many Stormcloak soldiers are Redguard.
It may sound like I support the Stormcloaks(because I do), but I'm trying to show that to debate properly, one must see both sides of the argument. I can see why people would support the Empire. A unified Empire is a strong Empire. They think Ulfric's racist. They've always liked the Empire. So forth.
Everyone assumes. Everyone thinks their opinion is fact.
Everyone who opposes the Stormcloaks states they are xenophobic, racist, barbarians who would easily get slaughtered if Skyrim became independent.
But what proof is there?
The Nords have proven they can defend against impossible odds, i.e.; the Night of Tears, where the Snow Elves attacked Saarthal, but the Nords still managed to defeat the Elves because of their higher population growth.
Yes, the Dark Elves living in Windhelm have it bad, but have you seen some of the important political figures and people living in Stormcloak cities? The Housecarl of Sorli, the Stormcloak Jarl of Morthal, is an Argonian. The Steward of Winterhold is a Dark Elf. The Steward and Court Wizard of Riften are both Elves. There are four High Elves living in Windhelm; a couple working at the stables, a merchant, and an alchemist. There is a Dark Elven bard working at Windhelm's inn. There is a Dark Elven sailor on the Northwind, walking around town.
Somewhat unrelated, but in the in-game files, the Dark Elf mage living in Kynesgrove would have been the replacement Court Wizard should Wuunharth had died.
After Nords, many Stormcloak soldiers are Redguard.
It may sound like I support the Stormcloaks(because I do), but I'm trying to show that to debate properly, one must see both sides of the argument. I can see why people would support the Empire. A unified Empire is a strong Empire. They think Ulfric's racist. They've always liked the Empire. So forth.