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Ukraine and Russia: are we heading for war?

Discussion in 'The Lobby' started by Anouck, Apr 15, 2014.

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Will this conflict lead to a war?

  1. Yes, but it will be like the Cold War.

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  2. Yes, this could lead to World War III.

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  3. Yes, but this will be a war between Russia and Ukraine. The UN will look the other way.

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  4. No, this 'conflict' is highly overrated.

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  1. Anouck

    Anouck Queen of Procrastination

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    No, he isn't. Timmermans is fluent in many languages, including English. Overall most of the Dutch are fluent in English, German and they also speak bits of French. His accent though is a bit less common.
     
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    Crooksin Glue Sniffer

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  3. Anouck

    Anouck Queen of Procrastination

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    I still don't think Russia itself took down the civil plane. But Putin does refuse to at least take some kind of responsibility and cries victim all the time. Even if he had no guilt in this, he is now making it very difficult for himself.

    The bodies arrived last Tuesday. Two airplanes, Australian and Dutch, arrived at an airport about 30km away from my house. The families were present, too. And when the first coffin was carried out of the plane, some of the victim's family members (1200 Dutch family members were present) completely broke down. They started screaming and crying in agony, which was very difficult to listen to.
    The coffins were put in hearses, which left the airport and drove in a cort├Ęge to Hilversum. Hilversum is a city in the north, and the military forensic lab is located there. Everyone was dressed in white on the family's request. People parked their cars next to the highways and during the entire route people were standing next to the roads and on the bridges, throwing flowers.

    It's a tragic event, obviously. But it's good to see how people help each other and the families out.

    [​IMG]

     
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    Crooksin Glue Sniffer

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  5. Seanu Reaves

    Seanu Reaves The Shogun of Gaming

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    I'm sure he's alright but it sort proves that Russian troops are stationed in rebel controlled territory. That's not okay.
     
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    Seanu Reaves The Shogun of Gaming

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    I mean it sucks, but I think it is one on a very long list of issues and recent developments.

    I mean it has relatively cooled down, though I think Russia needs repercussions for the airliner.
     
  8. Crooksin

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    It hasn't though, fighting is as fierce as ever. Its just we don't see it in the media as much. The last day they've calmed down only to allow observers to look at the wreckage. This is the first time since the crash that they've gotten anywhere close to it because of fighting.
     
  9. Anouck

    Anouck Queen of Procrastination

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    ...So...

    My fellow internet-smartasses...

    Any thoughts on the current situation? What do you think about the sanctions?
     
  10. Seanu Reaves

    Seanu Reaves The Shogun of Gaming

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    Do you have links so I can read specifics?

    But I think there is a very strange situation where international incidents aren't being treated as such. Cause no one wants to big a scene with all the plops around the world hitting the fan.
     
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    Russia and the West are now engaging in a tit-for-tat battle of the sanctions.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e5a49e-1e0f-11e4-9b6c-12e30cbe86a3_story.html

    Its expected, really, can't imagine Russia would take those sanctions lying down. Ukraine is now thinking of applying sanctions to Russia as well, mostly refusing to host a pipeline going through the country. Ridiculous if you ask me, Ukraine is certainly not in a position to be sanctioning either side, they may be a little too confident with their new EU relationship.

    Seems as though they are stinging a bit so I imagine the West will amp their sanctions up to include the whole of Russia, not just Putin's circle. Russia exponentially increased trade with South American countries immediately following their food ban so this has been in the making for a while.

    In other news, Canada has provided non-lethal humanitarian aid to the Kiev military which I am apathetic about. Canada has an extremely high population of Ukrainians but I can't help but see this move as a political move by our Prime Minister for the upcoming election, he's been very vocal about Canada's position on international issues lately which I am not a fan of.

    Ukraine is wrapping up their conflict with the rebels with a final push soon so who knows what will happen after. I feel as though we've entered our generation's Cold War regardless of the result in Ukraine.
     
  12. Epic Keith

    Epic Keith By Ysmir you're going to FREEZE to death!

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    I think Putin is being a careless leader. Your own people come first Puts!
     
  13. ecozombie

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    I think it's a definite possibility that there will be a war. I just hope it doesn't happen. The last thing anyone needs is yet another war.
     
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    How much more this war could escalate is very confusing to me right now.
     
  15. Medea

    Medea The Shadow Queen

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    So..........Where's WW III??

    I necromanced this post. Get over it.
     
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    Looks like it is Cold War 2: Colder than Ever
     
  17. Medea

    Medea The Shadow Queen

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    That's the new title for the next Expendables movie.
     
  18. Harkin

    Harkin Necromatic Mastermind

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    Expendables is a friggin joke now lol , theyre bringing every hulk from every corner of the media. "War, what its it good for, absolutely nothing!"
     
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  19. DrunkenMage

    DrunkenMage Intoxicated Arch-Mage

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    In yer pants.
     
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  20. Medea

    Medea The Shadow Queen

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    I bet you would like to be on the front lines.....

    *calls Anouck* :p
     
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