Though I was pissed not being able to know who was right or who was wrong in the whole situation, I can't help but feel Saadia or Iman or whatever she goes by is lying. First off, her scars. If all she really did was speak out against the Thalmor, how in the world is her face banged up like that if all she is is a public speaker?
"Hello, Im a Thalmor Justiciar, you must be new around here to think you can say things like that about the Aldmeri Dominion. Let me introduce your face to my sword..."
I think this has to be the weakest reason I have ever heard anyone present for thinking that Saadia's lying to you. Notwithstanding that Kematu's story makes absolutely no sense because Taneth fell to the Thalmor when Saadia was either an infant or a toddler, if you completely ignore what may possibly be the largest lore f***fup by the developers in the game and pretend that Saadia and Kematu traveled to Skyrim via a time wormhole from Hammerfell circa 4E 171, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to deduce that the Thalmor don't tolerate open dissent in the territories controlled by the Aldmeri Dominion. If you choose not to ignore the lore then Kematu's claims become absurd.
Speaking of absurd.
OH MY GOD I can't take you anymore.
We get it. Your picture is reasonably attractive and so is your location. Both of which I would doubt if you weren't being such a femnazi.
I really don't care if I'm banned or not for speaking my mind, but your take on this is appalling. You attack any post against Saadia, logical or not, as if you're saving the women of the world.
WE GET IT. You're a 'grrl' and play video games. Hnngh so hawt here's 800 points! Adam was right, you were wrong.
Saadia could have EASILY disrupted the military at 5. I'm sorry you were still twirling your hair and learning to use your looks to get what you want at that age, but that doesn't mean OTHERS haven't ruled NATIONS at that age. Read much?
You simply can't seem to handle being both wrong AND told how so. Your crass insults and terrible logic are rewarded for typical gamer nerd reasons, I've read enough.
I wanted to join this forum, but it's clear how things are here. EVEN IF that avvy pic is real, you're not impressing me.
First, it's a freakin video game, okay? You're not sheltering abused women.
Second, again, Adam plainly explained the obvious and you retort with inane garble, but jump to attack the poster above when you see an opening combined with another excuse to play She-ra.
Get OVER it. Saadia is a lying wh0re, lies and pulls a knife on you after inviting you into a private room. THERE, she asks you to take on the assassins when she's clearly safe.
YOU are the reason I'm going to move along, because I'm sick of both A: Guys using girl's names with 'meh' good looks to curry favor with baseless logic (no, I can't prove it, and you likely are the femnazi I suspect)...and B: girls who turn video game OPINON topics into crusades for the poor defenseless women. You probably hit your bf and call the police on him for being violent. I can tell.
Yes, I'm being a jerk, but you've been one for a few years now, and it's been ignored because too many gamerbois believe you'd give them the time of day because you play the same video games, and you USE THIS to your advantage, and KEEP doing it.
Despite my insanely toxic post, which is completely the opposite of who I generally am, I would have loved joining a place like this.
I can't, though, with this ridiculous paradigm still breaking the otherwise good form of this place. The one people like YOU feed on to survive, and sustain illusions for digital validation.
No one else tells you these things, but you need to hear them (obviously), and unless this was deleted (I know far too many female mods both IRL and online), you and everyone reading this knows I'm right.
I came here simply to see the different views on the topic, and you simply CAN'T let go of the fact you're wrong.
I'm too angry to even weigh in on the topic, but I will, because I know your type, and if this isn't deleted by one of your delusional male mod victims of digital hypnosis, you'll find ANY way you can to get it removed. Because again, you know I'm right.
THAT said, I can't remember now who posted it, but the answer is DAMN simple:
They're BOTH lying, and there's a good (not by standards, by logic) reason. There's more to the story. Yes, there are sometimes plot holes in the game, but not here, in the topic creating one of the bigger debates on the game. It's meant to add mystery, and cultivate imaginative reasoning.
The SAME recipe Tool uses in their song writing. So the player gets a chance to push the creative envelope.
Not march downtown with picket signs fighting for women's rights in a world meant to serve them. That would be the real one I speak of, not Skyrim.
I'm not apologizing. I feel this way and simply could no longer enjoy the damn topic because of everything above I said.
It's sickening. You're the girl who got into gaming to appoint herself the 'holy grail' of gamerboi nerddom. And NO ONE calls you on it. Conviction runs in short supply here, where fake blonde hair and 'mysterious' locations cause the weak willed to change their entire view, and cause the ...others?...to simply keep quiet for fear of the horny loser boys rallying against them to 'keep the hot chick here'.
I'm all too aware of the 'I'm really a hot chick' stunt many sociopaths and dorks use to maintain an illusory fanbase.
But that isn't you. You're a total feminazi, and you've completely ruined a potentionally badass discussion forum because you know you can. And no one seems to care and/or notice.
rant over. TL;DR? You have issues, and use your looks (eh.) to take them out in an otherwise great place.
Delete my post if you must, mods. I think I'm within reason to finally say something that no one else seems to have the balls to.
And I most certainly am on topic. Saadia is a deceitful, wretched woman using her looks to poison an otherwise sound place of gathering. And don't you DARE say 'she's just being a waitress.'
There are armed men trying to break into a city to kill her. Put an ugly man in her position, and all you'll hear is "Spare me a septim?"
Oh, and while I'm here, user with the Luigi avatar-you are hilarious, don't listen to otherwise. Kudos for not embarrassing the hell out of that guy for calling you stupid by mocking the education system after your fifty shades of grey joke. That was hardcore classy of you. People like you make me want to stay, but as you have read (if it wasn't deleted for obvious/sad reasons), I can't stand places that abide attitudes and mentality like Dagmar's and it for sad, sad reasons.
Or maybe I'm wrong, and Skyrim was terribly written, and this girl is right. OR, she doesn't see the obvious fact that SHE DOESN'T get the story. Damn, like every other post of hers. And most of you lap it up like sycophants.
NOW I'm done.. Sorry for being a jerk in my first post, but NO ONE is saying ANYTHING about this (that I've seen), and it's OBVIOUS.
Also the bane of any worthwhile forum.
If I don't see this post here when I check in a day or so, well, I'll know this place is worse than Reddit.
I can promise I'm normally cordial to the bone, and hell, usually just lurk, but this...I'm sorry, someone HAD to say something.
