Help me make perfect Nightingale Build

[Mwhals]

I am thinking illusion, one handed, archery, light armor, and sneak as the primary skills. Smithing with only two perks to improve enchanted items, especially since other perks don't help with Nightingale armor or weapons. I work my characters to level 100. When I get to 50 to 60, I will use the ohgma infinium glitch to get to 81 if I get bored with the build.

As a result, I want the perfect level 81 Nightingale with the Nightingale armor. I am looking for ideas on the 80 perks.

 

[Mwhals]

Thinking about this one:

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Thinking of a race weak in archery, but stronger in other main areas. I can get the 50 archery quick with any of them with Faendal being a follower in Riverwood where I trade my money back. This would make me stronger early with the illusion, archery, one handed and light armor.

 

[Mwhals]

Thinking Dark Elf for the fire resistance.

 

[Mwhals]

I decided to be an Imperial and to have more thievery perks with no alchemy or enchanting perks. Illusion, Sneak, Light Armor, One Handed and Archery are the big ones.

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Smithing only has two perks so I can improve the Nightingale armor. This is my final decision as I already have an ultra powerful warrior due to alchemy, enchanting and Smithing loop.

 

[feliciano182]

You have potential for an inmensely fun build, great choice friend, as to what you should check out:

-First off, 81 seems like a lot bro, if you think it's okay then well, go for it, but it seems too much, I plan my build up to level 60, 65 at a maximum.

- Have you ever tried the steady hand perk before ? I think two is too much, but if it does it for you then go for it.

- Don't put the "Critical Charge" point in one-handed, your critical damage only calculates from the base damage of your weapons, and that's not really worth it.

- Not sure about your investment in the smithing skill, it may not be enough, if you had enchanting it would be another thing. In any case, wait for someone else's opinion on this matter.

- Now this is where the criticisms from me go forth, "Stealth" at 5/5 is excessive, it's more than enough to have it at 1/5, even more so if you have illusion, which brings me to my next point.

- If you have Illusion, then you don't need the left branch of the Sneak Tree at all, even as a role-playing decision it's completely void, it's not going to help you to stack up spells or do anything impressive, it's not necessary to any extent.

- NO investment in lockpicking, you don't need that partner, all locks can be broken without a single perk.

- Pickpocket is a good investment IF you want to get two "Blade Of Woe", other than that, there's really no point in putting perks into that skill.

- Speech is useless, HOWEVER, it's a good investment to go to the left tree if you don't mind stashing all your items in your house and going town to town selling your stuff, I use it, but I admit it's not essential to any build.

- You might want to ask somebody else about Illusion, even if I personally did not use the central tree at all, it's not necessary.

 

[Mwhals]

The goal for this build is to use the Nightingale armor. The other Smithing Perks don't benefit it. I did full enchanting, smithing right side, and alchemy with my last build. That is why I wanted something different. I will think about the 2 through 5 stealth perks elsewhere, but I'm not sure.

The pickpocket and lock picking perks are for fun since 1H, Archery, Illusion and light armor are maxed by the time I get to them.

 

[feliciano182]

The goal for this build is to use the Nightingale armor. The other Smithing Perks don't benefit it. I did full enchanting, smithing right side, and alchemy with my last build. That is why I wanted something different. I will think about the 2 through 5 stealth perks elsewhere, but I'm not sure.

You actually get "better smithing" for each perk you put into the tree though, it's not necessarily a bad idea.

As for the Stealth perks, trust me friend, you will be as a goddamn ghost with just one point in it, even more so since you're probably going to use "invisibility" in your off hand.

The pickpocket and lock picking perks are for fun since 1H, Archery, Illusion and light armor are maxed by the time I get to them.

Oh pickpocketing and lockpicking sure is ridiculous fun, but really, you don't need perks for the latter at all, same for pickpocketing.

 

[Mwhals]

This is the one I was planning, which I hadn't posted.

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I like three perks in lock picking for the 100 pounds of carrying weight. I like the perks in Speech because I like the $10,000 plus of the Riverwood trader.

I read somewhere that smithing perks do not help the Nightingale armor. Just the Arcane Smithing perk is needed due to the armor being enchanted.

My other character has high level daedric weapons and armor from Smithing, Enchanting and Alchemy. He one hits most everything on master difficulty.

Enchanting could be good for jewelry, so I might consider it. 1H, archery, light armor and illusion are the musts for this build as they match the armor well.

 

[Mwhals]

I had one variation where all the smithing perks were taken at the expense of lock picking, pickpocketing and speech.

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This allows making and improving light armor while building and improving heavy weapons.

 

[Mwhals]

He is level 21 now. No replies to my smithing idea??!

 

[feliciano182]

He is level 21 now. No replies to my smithing idea??!

I think the link to your latest build is broken, if it isn't, then I just can't see it.

In any case man, please, for the love of Nocturnal, don't spend points in picklocking ! Hell, you should probably go for steed stone if you really want extra pockets !

 

[Mwhals]

All the links are working fine for me.

 

[feliciano182]

He is level 21 now. No replies to my smithing idea??!

You really like heavy weapons that much ?

Other than that, it's really not the best idea, better to just take the left side.

 

[Mwhals]

That is fine.

 

[Mwhals]

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Remember that I already have a warrior build at level 81 with alchemy, smithing, and enchanting. This build is to be different as a Nightingale.

 

[Mwhals]

Level 22 now, but all perks have gone to sneak, archery, 1H, and light armor with one perk in illusion so far.

 

[Mwhals]

I find it amazing that only one person has commented in this thread.

 

[Mwhals]

Level 22 now, but all perks have gone to sneak, archery, 1H, and light armor with one perk in illusion so far.

Level 27 now with same.

 

[Mwhals]

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[Mwhals]

I am doing this and not changing my mind. I will also use The Lord Stone. The smithing perks do not help with the Nightingale armor, so I am only doing enough for the ability to improve enchanted items, which is two perks.

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