High King of Skyrim
King of the barbarian horde
Oh, brain fart on my behalf. What I said would probably still apply in that situation though. Some citizens would be welcoming and others not so, you'd think. You'd be taking your chances I'd wager.
Imperials or Stormcloaks, what one?
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DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
Cause with the East Empire Company being allowed to have mercenaries within the capital of Stormcloak rebellion... You could totally just smuggle a Legion into Skyrim.
Imperial Legate: "We're with the East Empire Company..."
Stormcloak: "Oh I hope you brought my Breton chesse, very well come on inside."
Imperial Legate: "We're with the East Empire Company..."
Stormcloak: "Oh I hope you brought my Breton chesse, very well come on inside."
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
The East Empire Trading Company is a private merchant guild. I'm not aware of any official backing by the Emperor. Vittoria Vicci works for the guild as a private citizen, not as a representative of the Emperor. Notwithstanding that they wear Imperial Armor, the East Empire Company mercenaries and Adelaisa Vendicci have no affiliation with the Empire (they have no Imperial Legion faction). In Morrowind they wore heavy steel armor.
original_funk
Iron is coming
Imperial ships are allowed free naval passage as part of the white-gold concordant. Remember they are actually at peace, not just a cease fire. However it is rather uneasy, but you could say the same about the peace between the USA and Russia.
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
The Laoch
He is the Prince of Order. Or was it biscuits?
I think it is Delvin that mentions something like that. nvm
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
It doesn't matter if citizens are welcoming or not. Hammerfell has historically lacked central authority without the Empire, consisting of two and then three factions but presumably each area has its authorities to maintain law and order so a merchant caravan wouldn't be taking any greater risk traveling through Hammerfell than it would traveling through High Rock. The other thing is that unless private commerce is completely self-sufficient on domestic trade, any attempts to treat private merchants from the Empire differently or to look the other way in terms of maintaining law and order would be like cutting of one's nose to spite one's face as there would be comparable or greater repercussions to Hammerfell's private commerce in High Rock, Cyrodiil and Skyrim.
Dagmar
Defender of the Bunnies of Skyrim
Found it.
It's still an independent guild/faction though. Interestingly enough if you look at the shipping map which is found in the game as well, there are shipping routes to Summerset Isle, Valenwood and Elsweyr as well which seems to confirm that when Brynjolf says they have established ports all over Tamriel, he wasn't exaggerating.Optional Dialogue with Brynjolf during Scoundrel's Folly said:
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
If it is something like a Merchant Guild would it not come under the Guilds Act of the Empire?
Also what might or might not confirm Emperor backing depending how you would look at it, is Vittoria Vici's defensive stance when going on about her position saying she didn't get it because she is the Emperor's Cousin.
Though back to what I was saying, in the Fourth Era they're wearing Imperial Armor. But being supposedly backed by the Emperor, given their history and the past officials have been Imperial. While I don't mean to say that races makes them Empire sided. They would be considered an Imperial influence by culture. Also in game there is a mention calling it 'Imperial-financed'
Most of the shipping in Solitude is run by the Imperial-financed East Empire Company. - Loading Screen.
Which Ulfric is opposed to Imperial influence?
Ulfric: "The Empire is weak, obsolete. Look at how far we've come and with so little. When we're done rooting out Imperial influence here at home, then we will take our war to the Aldmeri Dominion."
Though I may simply be misunderstanding the meaning of what he considers an Imperial influence.
Rimfaxe96
Well-Known Member
Snobbish, huh? Wanna say that to my face?
I said "most of his kin" are like that, not all! And yeah, I would do it because he's still a bit more serious-like than most.
COME AT ME BRO!
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
Lord Rugdumph gro-Shurgak spits in your general direction.
Rimfaxe96
Well-Known Member
Lord Rugdumph gro-Shurgak spits in your general direction.
That's not a Lord, that's Shrek in fancy pants.
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
That's not a Lord, that's Shrek in fancy pants.
Careful, he's very old friends with another Orc who was in charge of a Fighters Guild Hall. Don't want to be picking the pieces of you up in a doggy bag.
Rimfaxe96
Well-Known Member
That's not a Lord, that's Shrek in fancy pants.
Careful, he's very old friends with another Orc who was in charge of a Fighters Guild Hall. Don't want to be picking the pieces of you up in a doggy bag.
In charge of a Fighter's Guild hall, huh? How cute!
Well, I'm Thane of Whiterun, Thane of Solitude, Thane of Morthal, Thane of Windhelm, Thane of Falkreath, Thane of Markarth, Thane of Rifton, Thane of Dawnstar, Thane of Winterhold, Archmage of the College of Winterhold, the Dovahkiin;Dragonborn!, Harbinger of the Companions along with sharing the Circles' beastblood, Chief of the Rieklings, Master of the Thieves Guild, Destroyer of the Dark Brotherhood, Legate in the Imperial Legion, Slaughter and Ridof dragons, killer of Alduin, member of the mighty Nightingales, Champion of Azura, Champion of Boethiah, Champion of Mehrunes Dagon, Champion of Molag Bal, Champion of Clavicus Vile, Champion of Hermaeus Mora, Champion of Hircine, Champion of Malacath (I think? He never mentioned it like that but I got his weapon as reward anyway), Champion of Meridia, Champion of Mephala, Champion of Nocturnal, Champion of Peryite, Champion of Namira, Champion of Vaermina, Champion of Sanguine, Champion of Sheogorath, a Master of the Thu'um, friend of the Skaal, friend of the Dunmer of Raven Rock/Solstheim, Member of the Dawnguard and killer of Harkon, I'm one of the few that actually managed to get out of Cidhna Mine, announced blood-kin friend among the Orc tribes of Skyrim and until the quest "Diplomatic Immunity" I was even buddies with that Ondolemar Thalmor guy.
So back off.
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
That's not a Lord, that's Shrek in fancy pants.
Careful, he's very old friends with another Orc who was in charge of a Fighters Guild Hall. Don't want to be picking the pieces of you up in a doggy bag.
In charge of a Fighter's Guild hall, huh? How cute!
Well, I'm Thane of Whiterun, Thane of Solitude, Thane of Morthal, Thane of Windhelm, Thane of Falkreath, Thane of Markarth, Thane of Rifton, Thane of Dawnstar, Thane of Winterhold, Archmage of the College of Winterhold, the Dovahkiin;Dragonborn!, Harbinger of the Companions along with sharing the Circles' beastblood, Chief of the Rieklings, Master of the Thieves Guild, Destroyer of the Dark Brotherhood, Legate in the Imperial Legion, Slaughter and Ridof dragons, killer of Alduin, member of the mighty Nightingales, Champion of Azura, Champion of Boethiah, Champion of Mehrunes Dagon, Champion of Molag Bal, Champion of Clavicus Vile, Champion of Hermaeus Mora, Champion of Hircine, Champion of Malacath (I think? He never mentioned it like that but I got his weapon as reward anyway), Champion of Meridia, Champion of Mephala, Champion of Nocturnal, Champion of Peryite, Champion of Namira, Champion of Vaermina, Champion of Sanguine, Champion of Sheogorath, a Master of the Thu'um, friend of the Skaal, friend of the Dunmer of Raven Rock/Solstheim, Member of the Dawnguard and killer of Harkon, I'm one of the few that actually managed to get out of Cidhna Mine, announced blood-kin friend among the Orc tribes of Skyrim and until the quest "Diplomatic Immunity" I was even buddies with that Ondolemar Thalmor guy.
So back off.
And yet in Skyrim no one cares.
Rimfaxe96
Well-Known Member
They just try to behave normally. Being celebrated all day and night long would annoy me, and the good people of Skyrim respect that.
DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
Of course they do. "Let me guess someone stole your sweet roll."
Rimfaxe96
Well-Known Member
That's the new guards saying that. Well, what am I supposed to do? Sweetroll theft is probably among the worst crimes a normal guard deals with and yet the common folk takes it as serious as murder.
They didn't have graffiti back then, you know.
