What do you mean by the term "melee"

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ColleenG

When in doubt, follow the fox.
And how do you use it?

It seems like this term has more than one definition the way I read it in peoples' comments. Hell, I may use melee and not even know it! Can you describe a melee situation? Thanks.
 
The word is defined as
"noun:
a confused hand-to-hand fight or struggle among several people."

So, the key elements are hand-to-hand (not ranged) and multiple people (not one-to-one).
However the term "melee weapon" can be applied to anything that could be used in a melee, even if the current fight is one-on-one.
 

MetalHeadManiac

Aela's TRUE husband
Step 1: be within range of smacking your opponents with something heavy or sharp.
Step 2: Smack the living crap out of them with said item
 

Morgan

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For me, the word has always had the connotion of clashing masses, so the definition DdraigGwyn gave is more in line with that. In period literature, the "mêlée" event at a tourney was a hand-to-hand fight between all contenders at once, with the last one not yielded, ruled out, or injured too badly to continue awarded the prize. The word itself, although borrowed from French, can actually be linked to the same proto-Indo-European root as the English word "mix." RP games tend to use it as the opposite of ranged, regardless of the numbers involved though.
 

ColleenG

When in doubt, follow the fox.
For me, the word has always had the connotion of clashing masses, so the definition DdraigGwyn gave is more in line with that. In period literature, the "mêlée" event at a tourney was a hand-to-hand fight between all contenders at once, with the last one not yielded, ruled out, or injured too badly to continue awarded the prize. The word itself, although borrowed from French, can actually be linked to the same proto-Indo-European root as the English word "mix." RP games tend to use it as the opposite of ranged, regardless of the numbers involved though.


So, what do you DO in Skryim during a melee?
 

Morgan

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I charge in with the gang and try to hit the other guys but not my guys!
 

ColleenG

When in doubt, follow the fox.
I charge in with the gang and try to hit the other guys but not my guys!


Ah, I see. That always led to disatrous results when I did that. Now I hang back and let them all kill themselves, and occasionally pick them off with an arrow.
 

Morgan

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I charge in with the gang and try to hit the other guys but not my guys!


Ah, I see. That always led to disatrous results when I did that. Now I hang back and let them all kill themselves, and occasionally pick them off with an arrow.

If you're shooting you're not in melee, under any definition. Your companions are, but not you.
 

ColleenG

When in doubt, follow the fox.
I charge in with the gang and try to hit the other guys but not my guys!


Ah, I see. That always led to disatrous results when I did that. Now I hang back and let them all kill themselves, and occasionally pick them off with an arrow.

If you're shooting you're not in melee, under any definition. Your companions are, but not you.

yeah, I think I like it that way.
 

Morgan

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I would add on this subject that one of the best way to get a nice "spectator melee" (in the classical sense) is to drop a few Frenzies on groups of bandits. Then you get to sit back and award the prize to the last bandit standing -- an arrow through the gullet!
 

ColleenG

When in doubt, follow the fox.
I would add on this subject that one of the best way to get a nice "spectator melee" (in the classical sense) is to drop a few Frenzies on groups of bandits. Then you get to sit back and award the prize to the last bandit standing -- an arrow through the gullet!


Ooooh, I could do that....
 

sticky runes

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In most video games it means close quarter combat, for example hitting or stabbing enemies with short range weapons when they are close enough to touch you, instead of using long range attacks such as arrows, guns, projectiles or spells from a distance.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I would add on this subject that one of the best way to get a nice "spectator melee" (in the classical sense) is to drop a few Frenzies on groups of bandits. Then you get to sit back and award the prize to the last bandit standing -- an arrow through the gullet!
It's fun! I like to drop it at the cave bar up by Markarth and watch from the entrance balcony. Always a good show and there's a chair to sit in to! Of course you've got to deal with the last man standing and any late comers, but you can solve that by going downstairs and having a seat after casting to the entrance balcony. Ah... good times... good times...
 

Chadonraz

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IMO, melee means physical weapons, including bare fists, that are not bows/throwing knives/throwing stars/other ranged attacks.
Spells, whether they be Cloaks, Wards or Fireballs, are magic. Enchanted non-ranged weapons are melee, though. :)
 

original_funk

Iron is coming
Well it's traditionally meant to mean a hand-to-hand fight with more than two people involved, all fighting against each other. I think in most gaming contexts it's when you use any melee weapon, which in Skyrim are the swords, daggers, axes, maces and warhammers, as opposed to bows, destruction magic and the shouts which inflict damage from a range.
 

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