Imperials or Stormcloaks, what one?

DrunkenMage said:

I'm not going to get involved in an argument with you. I'm done responding to anything you say.

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nordicowboy said:

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DrunkenMage said:

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KingNLD said:

child respond

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Epic Keith said:

You are the only immature one here. And you called Docta a bitch? You will not survive my wrath....

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DrunkenMage said:

I'm not going to get involved in an argument with you. I'm done responding to anything you say.

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DrunkenMage said:

Stormcloaks show a xenophobic reaction when it comes to other races. While Ulfric is political leader, his own views spread from him to his Officers and it spreads to the Stormcloaks. Windhelm shows racial segregation and the banishment of an entire race from the city walls to live on the docks. Stormcloaks do not buy from non-nords, that is causing many businesses to struggle to even remain open.

Stormcloaks have an issue with everything that isn't Nord.

Imperial Milk-drinkers "Next Imperial I see is dead"

All elves are generally blamed for the Great War, I had a Stormcloak supporter accuse "My kind" for the Great war, even though the character I was using, was Dunmer.

Orc strongholds are apparently "An affront to my people"

Bretons, well there is a certain dislike for bretons who are Half man, Half mer. "Those milk drinkers? Might as well be elves. Think they're better than us." - Galmar

They're a new kind of a Nord, not exactly the traditional Nord, but a xenophobic subclass. "True Nords" actually like trading with other other races, many became ship captains of merchant fleets, trading across Tamriel. Others became sellswords, mercenaries. Skyrim thrives from external trade, and especially what the Empire brings into Skyrim. The food and resources the Empire provides.

Because the Dominion is a sleeping beast that Skyrim cannot slay alone. Because many Nords are part of the Imperial army even now. Because the food and resources we get from the Empire are important to our people. Because even if we can't openly worship him, Talos the god was once Tiber Septim the man, and this is his Empire.

Talos had a dream of a unified Tamriel, unified under his Empire. Tiber Septim didn't build temples to himself, he didn't demand worship. He built the Third Empire, everything the Stormcloaks are doing and represent is destroying everything Talos/Tiber Septim spent his life creating.

How do you honor someone, when you destroy everything he stood for. Ulfric Stormcloak wants the throne of Skyrim, he is against the Empire out of personal hate, ever since his father died he hasn't been thinking clearly, he is blinded by hatred for being in Imperial prison while his father passed away.

The Empire still worships Talos, it's not like they wanted to ban Talos worship. It was a slap to the face to everyone who worships the Nine Divines. But the Empire hardly enforced the Talos ban, the Nords in Skyrim didn't even care about the treaty, they all still have their shrines to Talos. There wasn't a threat to them, it took the Thalmor seven days of someone shouting about Talos in public in Markarth which is the Headquarters of the justiciars.

"We didn't pay much attention to it when I was a boy - everyone still had their little shrine to Talos. But then Ulfric and his "Sons of Skyrim" started agitating about it, and sure enough the Emperor had to crack down." - Alvor

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TheRedGoblin said:

Well damn...

My Bosmer will join the Legion.

Will they still let me in after I killed the Captain in Unbound and I might have a hand in um killing the Emperor, ok maybe two hands...

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KingNLD said:

you know that is a few weeks ago so another child i called her that of something in her name
not that i find her a bitch.

childs respond something like that. i life with that.

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KingNLD said:

child respond

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Gearuvagen said:

I really can't understand how King is still arguing?

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KingNLD said:

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Gearuvagen said:

Would you like me to explain?

You raise insane points and invent your own lore. When these points are refuted and your BS is called out by fact & canon you simply say. "That's not the way I see it" or "Imperial Lies!!!!1!". Then you call other people childish. Really?
Numerous people (myself included) have linked to sites you could have used to expand you knowledge of the ES world...and it doesn't seem as though you've tried.


Yet, you keep coming raising the same "point" over and over again no matter how many times they are proved invalid:

Why don't you watch how Raijin & Ozran argue, while they are Stormies. They at least make sense.


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On topic:
Emperors aren't truly necessary for the Empire to function as the Elder Council have most the power. Though without someone to keep their power in check the Elder Council might get a bit...out of hand

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KingNLD said:

wow wait you think i have no links the next time i send them!

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KingNLD said:

i call you not a child only ive somebody do as a child.

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Gearuvagen said:

Links to reputable Lore sites....not Youtube.


What does this even mean?

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KingNLD said:

youtube can be the truth that movie what i send here is mostly true i have not seen a lie
in that movie.

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KingNLD said:

besides welcome to the stormcloaks my friend this what you think of them but you do the same

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Gearuvagen said:

Unless the video is released by bethesda or the person has references it is not a valid source.



I have no idea what this means.....and my day has been way to vexing to try and translate it. That being said I too am done...I hope that the next person who attempts to talk sense to you has more patience than I.

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KingNLD said:

you don't have to translate it! mabye i'm not the best speaking english person but don't do supid!
and you now what i mean with the stromcloaks imperials think that the stormcloaks are Racists.
that is not true mabye a little but not 100%

and that is way i some name 'Child'

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Gearuvagen said:

I used translate Which can also mean "to explain in terms that can be more easily understood; interpret."
meaning yes you post in English, we then have to make it make sense in English.

Secondly a battle cry such as "Skyrim belongs to the Nords" doesn't really help your point. Also the fact that there's no Stormcloak from any other race. (the DB doesn't count, it a game mechanic)

Lastly you have no room to call someone "Childish", it can be irritating. It doesn't help if someone is already irritated either. My apologies if I've been short or rude...with the day I've had I might need to head over to the Vent/Rage thread.

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Emilythenightinggale said:

I think stormcloaks imperials just seem a bit lady like with their skirt armour any way anyone who joined imperials do you remember at the start of the game they were trying to cut of your head (for no reason because you weren't on the list and you weren't part of the rebellion) I think to join the rebellion you can get revenge that's my opinion anyway


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