Illuminati Conspiracy Theory

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ChiefScalyNipples

Dictator of my bedroom
I've been hearing and seeing a lot about the whole Illuminati Conspiracy Theory lately. For those of you who dont know, I'll try to explain, even though I'm not so sure of it myself. All I know about the whole theory from what I've been told is that they are apparently a Satan worshipping secret society that basically runs everything in secrecy and subliminally corrupts people through most mainstream entertainment (popular movies, pop music, and so on). They're symbol is said to be the pyramid with the eye in the middle that you see on dollar bills, and the hand sign is simply a triable you make with both hands.

I'm not usually one to believe in conspiracy theories, and I'm not saying I fully believe in this one, but a lot of things add up that I hear about them. Like how beyonce threw up the triangle hand sign at the end of her Superbowl half-time performance and the lights went out afterwards. Also how Michael Jackson was going to start his tour and then pass away right before he does, there are rumors that he was going to reveal the truth about the Illuminati and they killed him, and made everyone believe he had a heart attack.

The only thing that doesn't add up to me is that if they're supposedly a "secret" society then why would they make their actions so obvious? And how come almost everybody knows about them?

So pretty much this thread is to just discuss your opinion on this conspiracy theory. Do you believe it or not?

By the way, I hear a lot about them being associated with the Free-Masons, and I honestly have no knowledge of them whatsoever. So if someone could explain that to me it would be nice.
 
If the Illuminati is real, it's fl*ffing pathetic. It and the KKK are just a joke now.
 

xsneakyxsimx

Well-Known Member
My thoughts are as follows. If this is a 'secret' organization, then how come their existence is common knowledge?
 

DJ Luigi

Mama-mia play that song again!
Here's the deal about the Illuminati and the people who run the gauntlet/show. (depending on how much you've been exposed to and also how much you dismiss or accept.) Most people prefer to be comfortably numb to the presence of such a society, preferring to live their sheltered lives in modesty, waking up, going to work, going to sleep. Understandable, especially when you have a family to take care of and children to feed.

Those of us that have seen these evils and realize they exist have a harder time simply accepting a life that further pursues their evil agenda. The old saying "Money is the root of all Evil" is quite true. Hypothetically, if the masses got tired of being stepped on by the rich and powerful, we would see a breaking down of the machine. The reason the Illuminati allow us to see them is actually for specific psychological conditioning. Each time we see it and are exposed to it, subconciously we either accept it (Sheep) or deny it (Theorists). This works in their favor because the more us theorists are exposed to it, the crazier we seem to the sheep, which gives them all the more reason to remain asleep to it all.

In fact, alll the hair-brained tinfoil hat wearing theories you read about on the medium you choose are written as a means to awaken previously mentioned sheep. The only way to starve the beast is to take away its food. This particular beast feeds on people's inability to accept the truth for what it is or what it could be. That's why the Illuminati seems to be untouchable, on the grand scale of things they outnumber us not by their own numbers, but by the people who refuse to do anything about it, and continue to smack that snooze alarm.
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
Probably the dumbest theory I've seen in recent times.

The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776 to oppose superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and to support women's education and gender equality. The Illuminati were outlawed along with other secret societies by the Bavarian government leadership with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic Church, and permanently disbanded in 1785. In the several years following, the group was vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed they had regrouped and were responsible for the French Revolution.

THIS is what the real Illumanati was, the exact opposite of what people today are claiming they are. I see it alot on rap videos and what not. Do you think that a secret society from the Renaissance era, filled with the greatest minds of the time, would come back to take the form of rappers? It seems to be me that its just a gimmick, and with the trends nowadays always being very similar to eachother, people have to get ignit about it.
 

DJ Luigi

Mama-mia play that song again!
Alright.. the Bavarian Illuminati was short lived and was one of the societies involved with the creation of the Freemasons, basically the BI dissolved and became the Freemasons. However that Illuminati you speak of is radically different than the one we're talking about.

For instance, yes its true, Bavarian Illuminati was in support of women's education. The Illuminati we are discussing are as well, but only to weaken the grip mothers have on their children so they can become indoctrinated at a younger age. They slyly manipulate their intentions to make them sound benevolent but underneath the sugar coating its nothing but wicked ulterior motives.

You mentioned the greatest minds of the Renaissance Era and the rappers of today. Personally I think rap is crap but a great majority of people listen to it and think its incredible, inspiring, and expressive. That's precisely what the Renaissance was all about, self expression. So if you think about it, the painters of yesterday are comparable with the rappers of today. I don't like to consider Lil Wayne the Picasso of this generation but people say he's a 'lyrical genius' Just another means of manipulating the masses.
 

Stephen Daidalus

Well-Known Member
You mentioned the greatest minds of the Renaissance Era and the rappers of today. Personally I think rap is crap but a great majority of people listen to it and think its incredible, inspiring, and expressive. That's precisely what the Renaissance was all about, self expression. So if you think about it, the painters of yesterday are comparable with the rappers of today. I don't like to consider Lil Wayne the Picasso of this generation but people say he's a 'lyrical genius' Just another means of manipulating the masses.

Dude, Picasso wasn't a Renaissance painter.

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Also, this series? This one...

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...is a satire. You know. Satire.

I recommend you read it. You will learn a lot more about the Illuminati than you could ever want to know.
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
Alright.. the Bavarian Illuminati was short lived and was one of the societies involved with the creation of the Freemasons, basically the BI dissolved and became the Freemasons. However that Illuminati you speak of is radically different than the one we're talking about.

I don't think you understand. That was THE Illuminati, any other "Illuminati" is just a gimmick or some far-out hippie conspiracy theory.

For instance, yes its true, Bavarian Illuminati was in support of women's education. The Illuminati we are discussing are as well, but only to weaken the grip mothers have on their children so they can become indoctrinated at a younger age. They slyly manipulate their intentions to make them sound benevolent but underneath the sugar coating its nothing but wicked ulterior motives.

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You mentioned the greatest minds of the Renaissance Era and the rappers of today. Personally I think rap is crap but a great majority of people listen to it and think its incredible, inspiring, and expressive. That's precisely what the Renaissance was all about, self expression. So if you think about it, the painters of yesterday are comparable with the rappers of today. I don't like to consider Lil Wayne the Picasso of this generation but people say he's a 'lyrical genius' Just another means of manipulating the masses.


The Renaissance wasn't exactly about self expression, it was a rebirth of the western world. (Hence the name Renaissance, which I believe is French or Italian for reborn). It was about opening minds to different ideas, different political theories and social structure. Believe me, people were still prosecuted by the Church for being self expressive and that brings us back to the ACTUAL Illuminati and why they existed.

No, the Illuminati, being so secret and complex as it was, would not decide to reborn itself in the rap music industry. It was Tupac who started that trend in rap music, actually, and tbh I think he believed himself sadly but now its just used as a gimmick to sell albums. Clearly it works though.
 

ChiefScalyNipples

Dictator of my bedroom
Just so you know. I don't believe in the theory, but then again I don't NOT believe in it. I just made this thread because I want opinions on it, and also to clear up my confusion about it.
 

DJ Luigi

Mama-mia play that song again!
Alright, yeah Picasso wasn't a Renaissance painter, sue me it was 2 o clock or so in the morning and I was tired as balls.

That aside, can you HONESTLY tell me with 100% certainty that there's no such thing as a secret society that wants to rule the world? You must be naive to believe such a thing, especially considering the evidence against such a claim. Okay yeah a satirical book, Dante's Inferno was satire too but you try telling people there's no Hell either... your narrow minded approach on this topic is actually quite alarming Stephen, I'm not sure if you enjoy living in denial or just get off on being the rock in people's shoe, but whatever floats your boat I guess. :vomit:
 

Stephen Daidalus

Well-Known Member
Alright, yeah Picasso wasn't a Renaissance painter, sue me it was 2 o clock or so in the morning and I was tired as balls.

That aside, can you HONESTLY tell me with 100% certainty that there's no such thing as a secret society that wants to rule the world? You must be naive to believe such a thing, especially considering the evidence against such a claim. Okay yeah a satirical book, Dante's Inferno was satire too but you try telling people there's no Hell either... your narrow minded approach on this topic is actually quite alarming Stephen, I'm not sure if you enjoy living in denial or just get off on being the rock in people's shoe, but whatever floats your boat I guess. :vomit:

I don't believe in alien abductions either. Oh, my god. I'm am such a naive and narrow-minded sheepster!
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
That aside, can you HONESTLY tell me with 100% certainty that there's no such thing as a secret society that wants to rule the world? You must be naive to believe such a thing, especially considering the evidence against such a claim. Okay yeah a satirical book, Dante's Inferno was satire too but you try telling people there's no Hell either... your narrow minded approach on this topic is actually quite alarming Stephen, I'm not sure if you enjoy living in denial or just get off on being the rock in people's shoe, but whatever floats your boat I guess. :vomit:


Can you honestly tell me with 100% certainty that a secret society wants to rule the world? The only "evidence" you claim to have is that Lil Wayne is popular ... or some outlandish claim that "they" "weaken the grip mothers have on their children so they can become indoctrinated at a younger age". However or whatever that means.

News flash, if you want to rule the world, the world has to know about you.
 

DJ Luigi

Mama-mia play that song again!
Never said anything about alien abductions. Honestly from what I gathered from this little exchange here, I don't think you believe in anything unless science can prove it with pen and paper.
 

Stephen Daidalus

Well-Known Member
Never said anything about alien abductions. Honestly from what I gathered from this little exchange here, I don't think you believe in anything unless science can prove it with pen and paper.

No, I don't require absolute proof. I do require evidence. The rantings of a couple of rap stars who are just doing it for the marketing does not count as evidence in my books, however.
 

DJ Luigi

Mama-mia play that song again!
Can you honestly tell me with 100% certainty that a secret society wants to rule the world? The only "evidence" you claim to have is that Lil Wayne is popular ... or some outlandish claim that "they" "weaken the grip mothers have on their children so they can become indoctrinated at a younger age". However or whatever that means.

News flash, if you want to rule the world, the world has to know about you.


Yes, I can tell you with 100% certainty that a secret society would want to rule the world. Money makes the world go round and the most wealthy people in the world make the decisions for us. Is it really that farfetched to think they're not in each other's cell phones or black books and get together once a year to talk about what they're going to do that year? Ever heard of Bohemian Grove? Maybe you should google it.
 

Stephen Daidalus

Well-Known Member
Yes, I can tell you with 100% certainty that a secret society would want to rule the world. Money makes the world go round and the most wealthy people in the world make the decisions for us. Is it really that farfetched to think they're not in each other's cell phones or black books and get together once a year to talk about what they're going to do that year? Ever heard of Bohemian Grove? Maybe you should google it.

Yes, rich people get together. Yes they form a strong network from which 99.999% of humanity is excluded. Yes they wield an enormously disproportionate amount of power. Yes this needs to change.

But blaming this on some hundreds year old secret society is just -their- way of deflecting attention away from the -real- issues. You're doing their work for them. They've successfully co-opted you. Who's the real sheep here?
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
Yes, I can tell you with 100% certainty that a secret society would want to rule the world. Money makes the world go round and the most wealthy people in the world make the decisions for us. Is it really that farfetched to think they're not in each other's cell phones or black books and get together once a year to talk about what they're going to do that year? Ever heard of Bohemian Grove? Maybe you should google it.


So how exactly do rappers tie into this? Hm? Since you're convinced Lil Wayne is part of the Illuminati, he is far from being one of the most wealthy people in world.

Bohemian Grove just sounds like a super-elitist rich man's club. Snobby and pompous, yes, but all I seen was American rich people listed as visitors. I seriously doubt ex-presidents and upper-class celebs are planning world domination.

But feed my curiosity, and elaborate. Other than just saying that they are taking over, or that they are indoctrinating our children (which is way too vague to be convincing), give me some examples, or evidence.
 

DJ Luigi

Mama-mia play that song again!
Yes, I'm doing their work for them by exposing them for what they are. You must think I believe the Illuminati to be some kinda alien race, I believe it's that group of powerful men that wield the ridiculous amount of power. And the only way that that's ever going to change is by making people aware of it all. Not by giving it positive publicity, and certainly not by propelling their agendas to keep us out of the loop. There's been a massive number of different world-changing events, all of them were planned in the same place by the same people for the same damn reason. To distract us from what we really need to be paying attention to.
 

Stephen Daidalus

Well-Known Member
Fact is that the first past the post system of elections is extremely favorable to incumbents and almost impossible for third party entrants who are not part of the entrenched system to break into.

Fact is that the cult of personality obsession in elections and the lack of controls on both electoral spending and electoral media coverage means that spending enormous amounts of money is essential to being elected and that no one can win without serious personal wealth and/or corporate approval.

Fact is that the current system of wages and the economic disenfranchisement of the middle class puts more and more people into a lifelong obligation of debt that is almost akin to indentured servitude. Students loans are a prime example of this. And where education used to be a means for the poor to break out of their prison, the huge debt required to acquire it it is now a prison of its own.

Fact is that government is swayed by corporate funded lobbyists while labor unions are disparaged and discredited.

You don't need a bloody secret society to see how this is happening. You just need to open your eyes. And as long as you go chasing after some phantom group, you're missing the real target and helping them continue to dominate.
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
Fact is that the first past the post system of elections is extremely favorable to incumbents and almost impossible for third party entrants who are not part of the entrenched system to break into.

Fact is that the cult of personality obsession in elections and the lack of controls on both electoral spending and electoral media coverage means that spending enormous amounts of money is essential to being elected and that no one can win without serious personal wealth and/or corporate approval.

Fact is that the current system of wages and the economic disenfranchisement of the middle class puts more and more people into a lifelong obligation of debt that is almost akin to indentured servitude. Students loans are a prime example of this. And where education used to be a means for the poor to break out of their prison, the huge debt required to acquire it it is now a prison of its own.

Fact is that government is swayed by corporate funded lobbyists while labor unions are disparaged and discredited.

You don't need a bloody secret society to see how this is happening. You just need to open your eyes.


Wouldn't you say that blaming the Illuminati is just distracting us from what we really need to be paying attention to, Stephen? ;)
 

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