Is Skyrim designed for warriors?

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Eggnog

New Member
Or even battlemages? I've played stealth/assassin/sneak and a pure mage, along with a pure warrior and a battlemage. I have to say, at least in my experience, that the warrior and battlemage had the easiest time of it. My warrior is in his 40s now, and has never had a problem. He has even less of a problem now that he is wearing really good crafted armor with dual enchants.

It just seems that the warrior-based classes got all the love. It seems their skill trees are better, too. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. But smashing faces seems a whole lot easier in this game that melting them and sneaking around.

I'm not saying that mages and sneaks aren't viable, because they certainly are, but it just seems to me that Bethesda gave a lot more love to the warrior-based classes.
 

Red5

Member
I might agree. My first play through was as a battle mage, and I found that by the time I was level 20 I was pretty well off. By 30, I was pretty much unstopable. I'm playing a sneaky archer right now and am on level 19. As soon as I am discovered, I pretty much get pawned every time. Of course, the sneaky assassin/thief is way out of my comfort zone to begin with, so I probably just need to learn to play the style a little better.
 

Jersey Dagmar

Just in time for the fiyahworks show! BOOM!
My main class is the Assassin. And I've never had a problem. If you using daggers as an Assassin, it helps to up your one-handed as well as sneak, and whatever else you want to invest in. I have a Mage Assassin at the moment, and it's a blast.
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
If you're looking for a class to play on Master for the easiest experience, assassin/sneak-based classes are by far the best. It's only really time consuming by avoiding melee combat and always trying to get a sneak multiplier. This is because Sneak is so OP and broken so imo, Bethesda gave a lot more "love" to the sneakers. I've played all types of classes to come to this conclusion but I dislike the assassin type just because it does get a little boring for me after level 15 or so.
 

Jersey Dagmar

Just in time for the fiyahworks show! BOOM!
Well, isn't that kind of the point? An Assassin wants to make a kill in one hit. So, I don't see what the problem is here.
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
Well, isn't that kind of the point? An Assassin wants to make a kill in one hit. So, I don't see what the problem is here.

Uhm, yeah, that is the point, in which part of my post did I say it wasn't? Again, it is my opinion that it gets boring which I clearly state and if that is your thing, to each their own. I was merely suggesting to the OP that Skyrim is definitely not catered specifically to Warrior-types. However, it doesn't change the fact that sneak in Skyrim is broken and allows for a player to so easily play on Master compared to a Warrior.
 

Jersey Dagmar

Just in time for the fiyahworks show! BOOM!
Uhm, yeah, that is the point, in which part of my post did I say it wasn't? Again, it is my opinion that it gets boring which I clearly state and if that is your thing, to each their own. I was merely suggesting to the OP that Skyrim is definitely not catered specifically to Warrior-types. However, it doesn't change the fact that sneak in Skyrim is broken and allows for a player to so easily play on Master compared to a Warrior.

Please explain how it is broken. You are the first person to ever state as such. I've spoken to quite a few people who have a hard time playing as an Assassin.
 

Crooksin

Glue Sniffer
Please explain how it is broken. You are the first person to ever state as such. I've spoken to quite a few people who have a hard time playing as an Assassin.

I'm the only person who you've heard say that? I've heard it quite a bit, even on these forums. I can see how it may be hard at first but once you get the hang of it, it's quite easy.

There are many, many reasons why sneak is broken/OP. From my own experience, with Sneak above 60, you are practically invisible, can walk 2 meters in front of enemies and hit them from the front and still get away, but a few times I'll be behind an enemy with 100 sneak and muffle boots enchantment and they start searching for me. You can one-hit-kill anything you want, if that is your thing and you enjoy being OP, fine, but something becomes OP/broken for me when you can 1 hit/2 hit/3 hit a dragon before you max out most of your skills. Any class can become OP, but Sneak is so inconsistent and incredibly exponential that I would consider it broken, as it was for Oblivion as well.

I'm not saying Sneak/Assassin can't be fun, because it was for me for a little while but I think Bethesda should revamp the system so its at least more challenging by level 20. By then I was 1/2/3 shotting enemies and there was no excitement in the build anymore. Compared to playing other classes, its incredibly easy but that's not what this thread is about, is it? Its a perfectly viable class, even more so than Warrior imo and I'm not arguing that its a bad one, I'm arguing quite the opposite, actually.
 

Bad-People

Supreme Overlord of the Barbarian Tribe of Hothor
Warriors are simple to use, much less micro-managing than spell casters and more direct than always trying to sneak around you're enemy's back.
 

theoperation

Hero of Jorvasskr
I'm not sure I agree. An assassin is quite hard early on but as your sneak gets higher and perks are invested, and coupled with the illusion spell tree, it's ridiculously easy to be a sneaky assassin. Except for dragons.

I get how this game would be designed for warriors, and it kind of is. I think that's because Skyrim has always been known as a land of warriors. Perhaps a Summerset Isles game would be much more mage-focused.
 
Sometimes, I feel that 11th Doctor/Ricardo Irving just disagrees with people for the sake of disagreement. I personally feel that sneak is pretty broken after level 75. Either that, or the AI is about as smart as a sack of flour.
 

Cherry

Farfetch'd is judging you!
Eggnog, I don't think that warriors are necessarily easier than others, but smithing combined with enchanting really is. Try playing a warrior without crafting anything yourself, and see how easy it is :p
 

Punz

Dark Lord of Skyrim
It does seem that way, however, having tried a full Nercomage character, I'm incline to lean toward that playing-style. There's nothing like sending a enemy flying with a Firebolt to the face. Then Thralling their corpse to fight for you. Love it.
 

Jersey Dagmar

Just in time for the fiyahworks show! BOOM!
Sometimes, I feel that 11th Doctor/Ricardo Irving just disagrees with people for the sake of disagreement. I personally feel that sneak is pretty broken after level 75. Either that, or the AI is about as smart as a sack of flour.

Once I get my character into the level 30 area, I'm done. The game just gets too easy once into that level bracket for me. Seriously? Level 75? Talk about owning everything and anything.
 

Chaos

Premium Member
I would agree, my first time playing Iwas a mage and got raped all the time, this time im a warrior and have beat the main questline at level 30. I think i have only died twice since starting my warrior.
 

Aerin

IOK's Token Brit
I prefer to play as an archer/thief type. I'm in the 50s now and I find that while I can easily take down bandits, draugr, etc. I can still struggle with dragons and dragon priests on Expert difficulty. However I like knowing that if I don't keep my cool then I could die. It means it doesn't get too boring.
 

Kaorix

Flying as only a dovah can
My first 3 playthroughs I was a straight up two handed berzerker, Seemed too easy, So I am mostly doing mage/assassin play styles. Little more challenge to being sneaky :)
 

Medea

The Shadow Queen
Wizards can be just a s good as warriors, imo. They just take longer to get to a point where they are powerful. Think about it. With warrior types, you invest more into Health, use armor and invest in armor perks, etc. Of course they are going to be more durable.

However, once you get expert level or higher spells in just about any school, as well as a good outfit to enhance your spell-casting abilities, you can fight ancient dragons untouched. That's the whole point to being a wizard, really: Fighting defensively and avoiding taking as much damage as possible. You can't expect to just go in there spells a blazin' early in the game and have any amount of success.
 

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