feliciano182
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You implied that, since all Khajiit in the game carry skooma, then it is reasonable for the jarls to apply discriminating policies, the problem with that argument is that you assume these policies are applied due to concerns about "a skooma problem", of which there's no basis nor proof for it whatsoever; in contrast, we have the proven dislike of nords towards Khajiit citizens in Skyrim, we know that many traditionalist nords are racist towards "the beast races", the logical conclussion would be to assume that Khajiit are not allowed in the cities because nords dislike them, anything else is conjecture and supposition, or in your case, rationalization for both nord and stormcloak actions.
Proof ? None, again, conjecture and supposition.
It would still be racist policy, which you apparently approve.
We're not supposed to judge this game as if racism was the correct, morally decent path, nobody assumes a "medieval mindset" when playing the game, all the content related to racism in the story is MEANT to be judged with modern ethics.
Your arguments contradict you every single time.
As I said, the game is meant to be looked upon with our current ethics, and under the premise that inmoral behavior trascends time and subjective judgement, nobody at Bethesda is going to ask you to "assume a medieval, backwards mentality", they're going to ask you "Here, as you are, and with what you know, what do you think of "x" situation ? What do you think of "y" treatment ? Do you approve ? Do your dissaprove ?"
It's a petty (as well as pointless) argument to say there's "more or less" racism here or there, racism is racism, when it appears it's wrong, nobody is "worse" for having more time being prejudiced, and it doesn't excuse the mentality and the policies of Windhelm and the stormcloaks.
First, unfounded, prejudiced, drunken accusations are never meant to be taken seriously.
Second, the dunmer don't have to help the war effort a single bit, and neither do they deserve to be treated like crap nor accused of nonsense by a well-accomodated idiot.
That's not how logic works, if your reasons for doing something are poor, then they are completely invalid, we never say "Well that guy doesn't make any goddamn sense, but he sure has his reasons !".
"The Japanese" is an improper term to describe The Empire Of Japan, as is "The Nords" when speaking of The Stormcloaks.
Apart from that, no idea why bring you this up.
If those situations say anything, it's about Tullius' or Aldis' methods of dictating justice and "sending out messages", they speak of The Cyrodilic Empire as much as George Patton's slapping of a traumatized soldier did of the US army in WWII.
Aside from that, the truth is simple, The Empire is known to be tolerant of all races and all walks of life, policies and discriminative actions against other groups are completely outside of what is known of them.
Doesn't. Matter.
Should the conservative mayor of a city refuse to provide proper support to one of his districts because there are many socialists living in that area ?
First, Skyrim, Cyrodiil, Morrowind and High Rock are still not part of The Dominion, and that is a direct consequence of the signing of the WGC, the same amount of redguards would've died on Hammerfell if The Empire continued a war that NO ONE was ready to continue.
Second, The Civil War is a direct action of both The Markarth Incident, as well as Ulfric murdering the High King of Skyrim and putting the land into massive unrest.
They would have the support of High Rock, Cyrodiil and perhaps even Morrowind, troop mobilization (sp) would remain unhindered, as would supplies and trade which Skyrim already needs in times where war isn't raging the land.
Aside from having almost three provinces more on their side, the banner of The Empire wouldn't be discriminative, as The Stormcloaks' inherently is, if you are an albino argonian, then you are not out of place in The Legion, but you deffinitely would be among The Stormcloaks, because inherently, their nationalistic ideology separates them from the other races.
How the hell is that giving away intelligence ? There's no proof that any of that means The Empire shares everything with The Thalmor, it only means that at important times, dignataries are sent to make sure the terms of the WGC are kept intact.
Who. Gives. A. fluff ?
What part of "it saved lives" do some people just don't get ? No one in Tamriel, NO ONE was ready to continue fighting The Thalmor, The Empire did the right thing, they stopped the war and allowed everyone to take a breath and regain their strength, because as Tamriel was at the time, NO ONE could've faced The Thalmor.
First, sure they did, after The Empire fought the main bulk of their army and weakened them entirely, leaving the redguards to fight off the remnants and leftovers, even an army of Jigglypuffs would've taken those aldmery soldiers with ease.
Second, rip-up the concordat ? I'm pretty sure High Rock would've been happy with other people making decisions for them, and even the "impossible to please" nords would be complaining about "The Empire brought us into another war ! Damn them to oblivion !"
First, IT IS just about Talos, it's exactly why, if not for Ulfric's imbecilic demands, there would be no civil war, but no, he just had to taunt the goddamn Thalmor because he's can't hold his inner attention whore in check, everything he does, everyone he kills, he has to let the entire frikkin world know it, otherwise, it just wasn't worth it.
And Galmar ? Don't even get me started on George W. Bush with a bear-pelt on his head, the sheer idea that The Empire "is not the same one they fought for" demonstrates not only the dragon-sized turd these people have on their heads, but also the sheer irrationality of having to fight a massive war against someone, and yet call them "weak", logic ? fluff that plops when your name is Galmar Stone-Fist.
Second, did you even heard Thorald's assumptions as to why they were torturing him ? The Thalmor could give seven anuses about nords worshipping "x" deity, they enforce that part of the treaty because it ensures idiots like Ulfric and Galmar will stand for causes that cause disruption and allow them to trample over the remains of the inner conflict, it's basic divide and conquer.
So The Empire should a start a war out of pure randomness ? They should push their luck instead of making a strong foothold among their regions ? they should openly disrupt the peace their civilians are having and instead send them to hell on Nirn with another war NO ONE wants ?
Surely your last name is Stone-Fist.
