Do you have Moral, Class or Gender Archetypes

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Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I find myself using certain archetypes when creating characters, do you?

Example:
I have never created a female warrior or heavy armor character
I have never created a werewolf character that was female
Only Nords ever side with the Stormcloaks in the Civil War Storyline
I have never played an Imperial or a Breton in Skyrim (although I have in Oblviion)
I have never created a female Altmer
My evil characters are always non-human
My good characters are always human
My vampires are always human, my Dawnguard can be anything that's non-beast race.
I am always a werewolf when I do the Dawnguard storyline.
My beast race characters never complete any of the main storylines (Civil War, Dragonborn) but occassionally do the TG or DB (especially DB) and avoid cities at all cost (with the exception of Riften if I'm an Argonian).

Currently I'm working on an Orc named Urug'Hai (just for s***s and giggles). Warrior, no alchemy, two-handed, light/heavy (depending on what he finds), heavy smithing and enchanting, restoration magic, heavy archery and sneak. He only likes Orcs and intends to spend all his time with them and take Orcs as followers exclusively (with the exception of the Companions, but that's only so he can be a werewolf as well and wants the armor - I don't think I've ever heard of an Orc Companion???).

Skryim is a great game for "anything goes". There are no real racial or class restrictions.

Do y'all have any restrictions that just seem to happen due to your own personality or biases that you don't really think about?
 

tx12001

I will not tolerate failure...
I have never played a serious "Good" Character, they all end up Evil and Undead

I simply prefer using Immortal Characters over Mortal ones due to it giving you that sense of Power that you don't get being a mortal (A feeling of being eternal if you will) and it's funnier because very few foes know what they are up against when they fight me.

Here is an Example: Guard is trying to arrest a Vampire Lord under Human Laws also as for my other character how do you arrest a Lich Seriously? that is just a dumb thing to even attempt.

In the end my characters all end up ungodly powerful masters of ever perk tree there is.
and I only really use Beast Races though for RP reasons
 

Lucid

Well-Known Member
What a great question. I do this, and hadn't fully realized until I started thinking about how to answer this. I don't have any gender restrictions (that's how rumours ger started...) but I definitely typecast by race.

I start all games with an elven stealth-archer, going back to my DnD 3.0 days. Usually a scout, thief or assassin role. I have never played a lawful-good elf, ever. My elves are morally ambiguous, or unabashedly evil.

In the Elder Scrolls games, my orcs are always good, always. They're kind of like Mastiffs, big and scary but full of love.

I only become a werewolf or vampire with characters that worship daedra, never those with spiritual aedric leanings.

My pure mages are always Breton.
My Nords never use Destruction magic.
My Imperials never use two handed weapons or dual wield.
I've never put a Redguard in light armor or played one of immoral alignment.
My thieves are always Dunmer, Breton or Imperial.
I've never been able to connect with a beast race character. Ive tried, but I always abandon them.
 

SaveVsBedWet

Well-Known Member
- All my characters have been Bretons or High Elves, all the way back to Arena.
- I always play female characters
- My characters always start out in heavy armour, but never stick with it because of the artistry of armours like glass
- My characters always favor one handed weapons. Maces over axes, axes over swords, swords over daggers, but always dual wield.
- My characters don't like shields.
- My characters always favor destruction and restoration, and never use illusion
- My characters are always Chaotic Neutral. Watching a vampire lord and followers getting mopped by guards, she'll stand there and watch one die and then save the one next to him, or watch them all die and then beat the crap out of the guards just because it's funny to spoil their victory celebration.
- My characters love to cut bandits off mid boast with an axe attack to the face.
- My characters are always mixed class, and going back to AD&D, Runequest, Stormbringer days, are usually based off of Ranger, Cavalier, or Anti-Paladin builds with Sorcery built in.
- I've never included the Thief or Assassin classes in any build.
- My characters never use crossbows.
- My characters are never blonde. In fact they are always of dark hair color - either dark red, or jet black, and are always quite pale.

- The phrase, "The Killing Joke" applies to all of my characters, including Dr. D'Irsei, whose irony is providing a needed service in the name of altruism that actually stems from malice and purports to be doing people a favor by performing all services "on the house".

That's all I have...for now.
 
J

Jeremius

Guest
Something fun, and challenging.

By the way, is it possible to make a warlock-type character who is morally good (as in, helps people but does corrupt things to do so)?
 

Gigapact

Lollygagging Milk Drinker (according to guards)
When I first started playing Skyrim and didn't fully understand the game, I strictly stuck to the descriptions of each race in the beginning of the game, which is why my first character was a Khajiit because I wanted to do a sneak type character. However, once I got the hang of it.... I guess I stopped caring. I never realized it until you mentioned it, great question.

Come to think of it, none of my characters fit the stereotype really... well except for my new character (an Altmer mage vampire). Since high elves are my favorite race, I typically end up picking them. So I have a high elf that is a sneak/archer type, one that is a one handed/ shield type, one that is dual weild and a werewolf in heavy armor, etc. Although I've also made wood elves that never touch a bow and arrow. But I must also admit that I'm a little shallow when it comes to my characters and want them looking their best, part of the reason why I've stayed away from races like the orcs... I just can't seem to get past the teeth thing :p
 

Gigapact

Lollygagging Milk Drinker (according to guards)
Something fun, and challenging.

By the way, is it possible to make a warlock-type character who is morally good (as in, helps people but does corrupt things to do so)?


Well some people have different interpretations of warlocks. I just see them as someone who uses magic. In that case, I don't see why you couldn't make a morally good warlock character. You can do anything you want, just stay away from organizations like DB and TG, don't do daedric quests, etc.
 

Joker

Cook, Wine Taster, Scotch Taster, Adventure Seeker
My current Altmer Female is a Battlemage. She started as a warrior, getting her 1H and Heavy Armor up as quickly as possible. I rarely play the beast races, I just never can get used to them. I only have two characters that have made it over 45, and both are about 60 now. Both wear Heavy Armor, but my Nord is more pure warrior. My Altmer just made Archrey Legendary, and she is working from battlemage towards pure mage. My re-rollitis rarely lets me keep one for too long. I usually regret one decision or another. To be honest, I am surprised that I now have 2 over 50. I guess that after 18 months, I have found a couple that I truly like.....;)
 

The Honorable Gidian Diva of Sass

Sahrot Vahlok Spaan. Bahnahgaar. Minion #88!
Staff member
My characters are always male and always human, and most of the time share similar features.
 
J

Jeremius

Guest
Something fun, and challenging.

By the way, is it possible to make a warlock-type character who is morally good (as in, helps people but does corrupt things to do so)?


Well some people have different interpretations of warlocks. I just see them as someone who uses magic. In that case, I don't see why you couldn't make a morally good warlock character. You can do anything you want, just stay away from organizations like DB and TG, don't do daedric quests, etc.

And I was talking about taking inspiration from the Dungeons and Dragons class. They use demon magic and some actually have morals (as in chaotic good).

I might stick with the Altmer Nightblade/Imperial Crusader-shield/Nord Barbarian Scout.
 
I've never played a male character, and I don't play beast races. Most of my characters have dark hair and dark eyes for some reason, (even if I have to mod to get them like that) unless I'm rping. I have a hard time playing evil characters. If I get bored and go on a rampage, I always revert to a previous save. If I'm doing the DB quest line, I go dunmer - I don't know why. I blame Drow. I always cure my lycanthropy, and the one and only time I played Dawnguard, I refused to become a vampire. Only one character ever sided Imperial, an orc that was promptly abandoned once I finished the civil war.

That's about all I can think of. Oh, this is completely dumb, but when I do the escape from Helgen bit, I always follow Ralof out, and I always pick the warrior stone, even if it's completely irrelevant to my character build. I'll go back later and change it when he's not around. :oops:
 

Hildolfr

It's a big hammer.
None of my Orcs have ever touched magic. They always wear heavy armor. They always smith their own armor.

Every time I create a character that I intend to use any sort of magic with, it's never a human. I didn't realize this until I start thinking about the question. Whether it's shaman or spellsword or the few pure mages I've attempted. They're always an elf or beast race. That's kind of interesting. Khajiit evil Sith Lord spellsword FTW, though.
 
My characters are always female.
My characters are hardly, if ever, purely evil. They're more like anti-heroes than just villains or heroes.
I can't "connect" to the human races. I tried, but I just can't. I connect more with Mer and Beast races, so all characters are Mer or Beast (I have a Bosmer, Altmer, Orsimmer, Khajiit and am about to make an Argonian).
I usually mix Classes at least a little.
 

Twiffle

Well-Known Member
There are a number of factors that affect the choices we make in Skyrim, and other games as well, its our own personalities and mindset, just a personal choice of what is pleasing both to the eye and the escapism we all seek. This is just an opinion of course, remember its just a game, a series of code lines written to entertain us, it doesnt exist in reality, but entertains us in such huge ways that is almost a book in itself, so the characters IMHO are just extensions of our own personalities or even dreams.

Best example i can give is myself, some of you may read this is and be having a little sI'm a racist asshole who doesn't understand boundaries, respect, or basic human decency and I need help saying he's mad, but i dont care, ive always been alternative in my thinking at times, so when I play the game so do my characters become alternative too, such as my Orc who is a white pure mage, Restoration, Alteration and some illusion to calm things, , inside he must be dying to plunge a war hammer into someones head, , but NO i wont let him, , i also have a High Elf who has to lugg around Daedric armour and Volundrung , skinny little runt he is and hes not allowed any magic not even restoration basics, , its eating him apart inside,, i just love that side of it, , torturous treatment of my characters, , but as i said at the beginning, its our mindset, personalities and escapism that affects our detailed and random choices for the whole of this game, ,

Well thats just an opinion and my 2 cents , ,



PS, , hi Daelon, long time no see mate, , , , back with a bang buddy, , :p
 
I have always played a Nord. Even before skyrim came out when I first got oblivion.

I usually always do sword and shield. Never use magic other than "practical" spells, (magelight, candlelight, transmute, muffle, clairvoyance) things of that sort.

Not saying that I don't make the occasional "wizard" char. but when I do I prefer to call them a Goði and do spells that seem more shamanistic and natural, element harnessing or calm spells and never necromancy or conjuration or whatever...

I always basically roleplay a character based on scandinavian/viking folklore. So most of my characters follow archetypes from the poetic eddas and sagas. They are usually glory/fame mongers and care a lot about amassing a fortune and making a name for themselves.

Recently I have been playing with my HUD turned off (using clairvoyance for quest locations) and usually do nothing for my first few levels but chop wood, gather ingredients, gather crops and sell to farmers or mine and either sell the ore or make simple daggers and armor to sell. I like rp'ing that my char. has a basic "job" and saves up to buy his adventuring gear (better armor so on and so forth). I also only work from 7am to about 3:30 or 4:00 pm and after that I will do misc. quests for villagers. I go to sleep every night and stop mid work day to take a lunch break and eat breakfast and dinner. Once I have the adventuring gear paid for I go out and dungeon delve to make more gold, enough to buy a home. I then spend the rest of my time either working a job or delving to add on to the home and I usually take one souvenir from every dungeon I clear and place it in the home, nothing extravagant sometimes its just a cup or plate, sometimes its the enchanted weapon of a deathlord or something to hang on plaques. I usually display all of my city weapons in my home.

It takes a lot longer to lvl up this way, your smithing goes up quick from home building and archery goes up from hunting to sell furs or make hide/leather armor. I also think it makes everything more rewarding and immersive. It just takes a while getting used to playing without the crosshairs but once I got it I don't think I could ever go back to using a hud. Listening for the heartbeat when health is getting low and running off behind a tree or rock, just out of hit range to down a quick potion then back into the fray.

Once I have everything bought and built up then I begin doing the more intensive quests. Sometimes dragon born, but usually do civil war for stormcloaks. I also try to do all of the Divines quests because I make my characters very religious and devout followers of Talos. They are never thieves and never do dark brotherhood.

Nerdy.
 

Dovahkiir

Member
I find myself using certain archetypes when creating characters, do you?

Do y'all have any restrictions that just seem to happen due to your own personality or biases that you don't really think about?

Mainly my own personality and I guess. My character destroyed the DB and put the TG in jail (mod) because thats what I felt a right thinking citizen of Skyrim would do. Which is not the same as what a Nord would do, because he's khajit and he/I don't like the Stormcloaks.

Thats not to say he's a paladin he's done his fair share of thieving and has killed too many people for it to lie easy on his conscience. But there are some things in this world that are simply beyond the pale.

Obviously you miss out on a lot of content (whats up with all the "evil" stuff Bethesda? Seriously.) So I'll probably roll an evil character at some time. But he'll probably be a Nord because well, that seems more appropriate.

I've always played male characters because I guess I identify with them more, and I'm not interested in eye candy which I believe most male gamers play as female for.
 

SaveVsBedWet

Well-Known Member
I've always played male characters because I guess I identify with them more, and I'm not interested in eye candy which I believe most male gamers play as female for.

That would mean most male gamers are simpletons. There's plenty of eye candy right outside the front door that doesn't require suspension of disbelief nor does it require anti-aliasing to prevent faces from looking like clay.

I play female characters because they are simply more interesting in a world of stereotypical and now boring male defaults. I don't think I'm anywhere near alone in seeing the differences in viewer, reader, or gamer experience this variation offers.

Conan? We've seen that already. Wolverine? We've seen that already. Blade? We've seen that already. BroShep? We've seen that already. We've seen them again and again and again - just textbook, template-based, color by numbers drivel about people who are only persevering against all odds because the POV is over their shoulders in particular.

Yet the exploits of the likes of She-Hulk, Anne Bonny, Witchblade, Selene, Rogue, offer a whole new take on old stories and introduce new dynamics into the mix. It becomes more of a triumph over challenges and for a lot of guys that lack of advantage shows them the other side and for still others it is a point of identification with their own underdog existence.

And then there's the fact that all people have both Yin and Yang essence in them, and due to gender pressures they end up favoring one and starving the other. Playing a character of the opposite gender or enjoying literature based on or written from the opposite gender's point of view is similar, at least to me, to being a right handed fighter and tying my right hand to my waist so I hit a bag only with my left hand.

That's the "active" version. The "passive" version is like where one has a iodine deficiency and craves salty foods. If you can follow how that pertains to the psyche's need for a different sort of stimulation - vulnerability, sensitivity, whatever.
 

Parselmagic

Member
-My lasting warrior builds are always female. I guess I just like the "Brienne of Tarth" mindset.
-My archers are always male.
-I love altmer lore. However due to my height in real life (short), I just can't stick with a character that tall. I'm trying to get over it.
-I prefer all my builds to be played by a race that isn't known for that play style.
-All of my characters are attracted to men, regardless of gender. There aren't any marriageable female NPCs that I like.
 

Writes-Many-Posts

Champion of Grottos and Gremlins
I always fail to not get a bounty in all my characters at least once :sadface:
Now that I can mod, Braith dies in all my playthroughs >:]
I never created a Redguard, a Breton nor a Bosmer
My only old character is probably the only one who I made to fully rely on magic
My orcs never use magic
I only joined the Winterhold College as a Khajiit once, to test J'Zargo's reaction.
I never put a character in both the Companions and the Brotherhood, except in my first playthrough, in which I tried to get all the non-DLC achievements.
My allignment has usually nothing to do with the char's race, not even whether they are vampires or werewolves, but it does balance with which faction m character is in.
My argonians very rarely join the companions.
 

SaveVsBedWet

Well-Known Member
Hildolfr : Just before I saw your reputation bonus (thanks a lot by the way!), I actually thought about the female Thor thing and how that matches up with my views on female protagonists.

I don't know why specifically "the majority" is having a problem with this, although I can guess what a lot of the textbook objections are, and they come back to the same tired mantras. For me, I place this situation in another category. I am not particularly enthused about a female version of Thor, but with qualifications.

If they are simply doing a replacement? As in the female Thor is suddenly supposed to have been Thor the whole time, or otherwise makes the original Thor an afterthought or something else? No go. That's just lazy, and it will likely take deus ex machina to pull that off. I see that exactly the same as I see all of the sudden switches in dedicated heterosexual characters in shows like True Blood to suddenly gay curious or outright gay characters, dreaming of gay affairs. It is simply bandwagon PC B.S.

If there is a "role", as protector of Asgard that falls to "someone", and that "someone" used to be a guy named "Thor", but is now passing as a role to a woman, I'm cool with that. But that woman should not be named Thor. Setting aside how abominably horrible a name Thor is for a woman, there is already a Thor, and he has not exactly let the name go unheralded.

So is "Thor" a title/position, or a proper name? If the former? Then so long as it is explained responsibly and intelligently, and not phoned in, I can get behind it. But if it is a proper name, than this is a direct replacement and as such not only disparages the original character, but does no favors for the female character being introduced either. It is depriving her of her own identity.
 

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