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Medea

The Shadow Queen
You haven't given me a reason to hate you yet. Trust me, I could do much better.
 

Djeff

Bosmer Renegade
You haven't given me a reason to hate you yet. Trust me, I could do much better.


I have no doubt about that. I just don't care. You're just pissed of at me and I don't care. No one does. Read the threat completely from the beginning to the end. You're the only negative influence here. So gratz! And apparantly, you can do much worse!

You go girl!
 

Medea

The Shadow Queen
Dude! I just let you off easy! LOL I admitted I don't hate you and I'm not pissed off about anything.

Since when is a different opinion than "Skyrim should be in the trash" trolling and being a negative influence? You're being ridiculous.

You came to a forum about a game that you decided was "beneath your glorious gaming skills"....laid out "trollbait" (an opinion that deviated from your own in any way), and proceed to whine and complain....not about the game anymore, but about someone who still likes the game.

Who are you trying to curry favor or support from? The hundreds of others Skyrim fans that have been here for at least two years like me?

I thought I disagreed with you in a very nice way at first.

Who's trolling? All I see is a simple argument that you are blowing way out of proportion.
 

Djeff

Bosmer Renegade
You take two lines out of a complete reaction. It's right there. Just give it up. Everybody can read the whole story. What are you trying to proof? Seriously. Whatever you want, I'm not going to reply anymore. You won or you're right.

I hope you're a nicer girl to your boy or girlfriend.. :S
 

Medea

The Shadow Queen
I hope you're a nicer girl to your boy or girlfriend.. :S

Oh, so you're implying you want to get to know me better? HAHA

Sorry. My boyfriends play Skyrim. So do my girlfriends. :p
 

Jo'rak Vandeni

Jurrrl o' Sweden
If you don't like Skyrim, sure, no one can try push it down your throat, that's not fun for anyone.. So I don't really see why you're arguing with him about it
 

SaveVsBedWet

Well-Known Member
I'm a PC gamer, and yeah I think you are right about installing mods and keep practicing etc. It's just that the constantly dying and fleeing destroys my gaming experience. But I guess it's just adjusting to that or find an other game.

I actually find this sentiment odd. I stopped having problems with dying somewhere around 20th Lvl, save for really overbalanced fights with several bandit chieftains at once or multiple vampires along with a vampire lord simultaneously. One on one fights, or fights between Dr. D'Irsei and several assailants at once who are not all boss-types? Either balanced and exciting or the Dr. dominates.

If you have a good follower, such as Jordis, Aela, Serana, or Eola, it really balances out fights or makes for some real domination. There are other mods like Amazing Follower Tweaks that allow you to have more than one follower. Up to five. If you can't survive fights at level 25+ with even two or three followers not to mention five of them then you likely really need to reduce difficulty or else look at your armor and the weapons you're using as well as your fighting strategy. Also, whether or not you are enchanting things properly.


Don't have the mods you mentioned. And I feel that a game should be good standing on itself, not completely dependent on fans making improvements.

And those overbalanced fights you mention; I experience those just too often, destroying my experience and throwing me out of my RP element.

But that is me, you finding that odd or not.

This is a very clear indication that TES in general is not for you, so I would have to agree with you. There are games that are encompassed completely within themselves at the time they ship, where anything additional comes in the form of official DLC or official patches. Then there are games that are sandboxes, that very early in their development became a canvas for the love, adoration, and vision of their fanbases.

Elder Scrolls Construction Set has been a part of the TES world almost from the beginning. At bare minimum since Morrowind, if not since Daggerfall. You consider it a weakness - evidence of flawed design. Everyone, and that means everyone else considers it a developer strength. An admission that that there is a compromise that must be made in such an extensive and intricate game between shipping a deliverable product and making that product the absolute bleeding edge bug free pinnacle of development that it could be were the devs to take twice as long to develop as they already do in a long dev cycle.

A developer that has the vision and humility to realize that priorities change for every customer and gives a baseline product that, while never actually needing more than official patches and DLC to operate, allows for customers to customize to their hearts content and proudly make their game install theirs, not to mention offering back to the community with such mods? This is a rare mark of excellence in design and philosophy that most would be lucky to have but that TES buyers such as yourself most assuredly take for granted.

Bethesda with TES, Bioware with Mass Effect, Epic with Unreal, all the way back to id with Doom - the greats have all embraced and celebrated the knowledge that they are not all seeing and all encompassing and that the allowance of modding is not a mark of weakness, it is a mark of humility. And it is the reason why these games are immortal - their re-playability infinite. If you cannot see this then most certainly - your place is with the Bioshock/GTA crowd, where WYSIWYG gaming is at its highest point and nothing about it invites, requires or even allows any of your vision or imagination into the game that you paid for.
 

Djeff

Bosmer Renegade
I actually find this sentiment odd. I stopped having problems with dying somewhere around 20th Lvl, save for really overbalanced fights with several bandit chieftains at once or multiple vampires along with a vampire lord simultaneously. One on one fights, or fights between Dr. D'Irsei and several assailants at once who are not all boss-types? Either balanced and exciting or the Dr. dominates.

If you have a good follower, such as Jordis, Aela, Serana, or Eola, it really balances out fights or makes for some real domination. There are other mods like Amazing Follower Tweaks that allow you to have more than one follower. Up to five. If you can't survive fights at level 25+ with even two or three followers not to mention five of them then you likely really need to reduce difficulty or else look at your armor and the weapons you're using as well as your fighting strategy. Also, whether or not you are enchanting things properly.


Don't have the mods you mentioned. And I feel that a game should be good standing on itself, not completely dependent on fans making improvements.

And those overbalanced fights you mention; I experience those just too often, destroying my experience and throwing me out of my RP element.

But that is me, you finding that odd or not.

This is a very clear indication that TES in general is not for you, so I would have to agree with you. There are games that are encompassed completely within themselves at the time they ship, where anything additional comes in the form of official DLC or official patches. Then there are games that are sandboxes, that very early in their development became a canvas for the love, adoration, and vision of their fanbases.

Elder Scrolls Construction Set has been a part of the TES world almost from the beginning. At bare minimum since Morrowind, if not since Daggerfall. You consider it a weakness - evidence of flawed design. Everyone, and that means everyone else considers it a developer strength. An admission that that there is a compromise that must be made in such an extensive and intricate game between shipping a deliverable product and making that product the absolute bleeding edge bug free pinnacle of development that it could be were the devs to take twice as long to develop as they already do in a long dev cycle.

A developer that has the vision and humility to realize that priorities change for every customer and gives a baseline product that, while never actually needing more than official patches and DLC to operate, allows for customers to customize to their hearts content and proudly make their game install theirs, not to mention offering back to the community with such mods? This is a rare mark of excellence in design and philosophy that most would be lucky to have but that TES buyers such as yourself most assuredly take for granted.

Bethesda with TES, Bioware with Mass Effect, Epic with Unreal, all the way back to id with Doom - the greats have all embraced and celebrated the knowledge that they are not all seeing and all encompassing and that the allowance of modding is not a mark of weakness, it is a mark of humility. And it is the reason why these games are immortal - their re-playability infinite. If you cannot see this then most certainly - your place is with the Bioshock/GTA crowd, where WYSIWYG gaming is at its highest point and nothing about it invites, requires or even allows any of your vision or imagination into the game that you paid for.


Uhm, I think mods are a fine contribution, but they shouldn't be a necessity. That's what I think. And sorry if I sounds harsh, but I'm just too sober to be a fanboy.

So don't take it all that serious, really..
 

Djeff

Bosmer Renegade

Anouck

Queen of Procrastination
I don't have mods installed, have a character of a lower level than yours and I am not experiencing this problem. Try to lower the difficulty. If that doesn't work...well... Then maybe you're just not good at it.

...But whatever it is; you should have fun. That is the main reason to play a game. If it is "too frustrating", stop playing. ;)

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Djeff

Bosmer Renegade
I don't have mods installed, have a character of a lower level than yours and I am not experiencing this problem. Try to lower the difficulty. If that doesn't work...well... Then maybe you're just not good at it.

...But whatever it is; you should have fun. That is the main reason to play a game. If it is "too frustrating", stop playing. ;)

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You're right.

And I'm also not good in playing games. The friends of mine that game are often way better than I. ;)
 

Jo'rak Vandeni

Jurrrl o' Sweden
I'm up in 600 hours of Skyrim, think I've gotten 9 characters past lvl 50, and I fl*ffing hate the fight-system in the game, clearly, that bandit has some damn strong fur armour if my Stahlrim sword takes 90 slashes to kill him!

I realized that with my ever first character, but it didn't bother me, the best thing you can do, if you want an unmodded Skyrim to feel authentic and real, is you play a stealth character, a 6x backstab usually kills most people instantly.

I've survived in Skyrim for 600 hours, because of the environment, I stopped doing these massive heroic deeds like saving the world from a dragon, that's too cliché, I just had my guy walk town to town, selling pelts, working in the mines, maybe some brawl fights, smith and stuff.. And once he/she had done enough of that, I begun hunting down bandits and other stuff, just to get some sort of action, and I love playing like that, especially with the Dragonborn DLC, making a Dunmer and trying to get money lvl 1 for the ride to Solstheim by thieving is a great time!

So IMO you should try out some other perspectives of Skyrim before flushing it down, since it is more or less a big *ss sandbox, try make it feel like those other RPGs you enjoy more, but that's up to you man, don't play it if you're just gonna throw up ;)
 

Anouck

Queen of Procrastination
In the end, it is just a game. In RL a person dies or gets severly injured when you hit him with an axe or a warhammer. And even if he survives, the odds of him storming towards you like nothing happened are very unlikely. But hey; it is a game. And it is not 100% realistic. If our characters would suffer from the actual damage a weapon like that does, we would not make it far.

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Djeff

Bosmer Renegade
I'm up in 600 hours of Skyrim, think I've gotten 9 characters past lvl 50, and I fl*ffing hate the fight-system in the game, clearly, that bandit has some damn strong fur armour if my Stahlrim sword takes 90 slashes to kill him!

I realized that with my ever first character, but it didn't bother me, the best thing you can do, if you want an unmodded Skyrim to feel authentic and real, is you play a stealth character, a 6x backstab usually kills most people instantly.

I've survived in Skyrim for 600 hours, because of the environment, I stopped doing these massive heroic deeds like saving the world from a dragon, that's too cliché, I just had my guy walk town to town, selling pelts, working in the mines, maybe some brawl fights, smith and stuff.. And once he/she had done enough of that, I begun hunting down bandits and other stuff, just to get some sort of action, and I love playing like that, especially with the Dragonborn DLC, making a Dunmer and trying to get money lvl 1 for the ride to Solstheim by thieving is a great time!

So IMO you should try out some other perspectives of Skyrim before flushing it down, since it is more or less a big *ss sandbox, try make it feel like those other RPGs you enjoy more, but that's up to you man, don't play it if you're just gonna throw up ;)


I guess it is unfair to expect a company to make my RP experience for me.

And maybe I should take a second look at the possibilities. Instead of playing it with a Legend of Zelda mentality.
:)
 

Djeff

Bosmer Renegade
Not being good at something is fine. As long as you enjoy it.

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That is by far the smartest thing anyone has posted here! Including me.:)

You're right, guess I'm just making a too big a deal of this..
 

Anouck

Queen of Procrastination
That is by far the smartest thing anyone has posted here! Including me.:)

You're right, guess I'm just making a too big a deal of this..

Haha, I suck at CoD - still play it. Although I think I enjoy it more than the poor bastards who have to play in a team with me in the multiplayer. >.>

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Manmangler

Well-Known Member
Not being good at something is fine. As long as you enjoy it.

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Why I play legendary Skyrim with mods that multiple and harder enemies, because then I CAN DIE. Playing without dying is not fun. Too easy is too easy. Its not fun just run around and kill everybody without danger.

That like our Company of Heroes 2 matches. If skype reconized finnish curses, our skype accounts were blocked.
It not for winning, its for a good game. We have hitted our head to brick wall one map (Cannot win 2 x 2 with 2 Expert AI, We win with one hard and one expert ai). Still we try it becuase we lose. Losing means we have to learn something new.

Oh that adreline, that speed we need give orders, all that panic

We stopped playing Company of Heroes 1 because we win all official maps against expert ai.

Offcourse we could it win using Soviet Indrusty tacticts (all powerfull GOD tactics)

Some FPS game I used name "Easy Frag kot kot!" so I sucket those but still play those.
 

The Wooden Dagger

New Member
... But no matter how high level you become, you never get better. I'm an level 65 archer with 93 archery and still need at least 6 headshots to take out a bear. And magic is even worse, the amount of damage you deal doesn't even come close to the amount of damage your enemies do. Even if you are using the same spells. I'm seriously scared of every enemy I encounter, because it only takes them one good swing and bang! .../quote]


  • Patience, don't rush and take your time to level and explore.
  • Use your perks wisely.
  • Make sure you have a followe/ companion if needed.
  • Lower the difficulty
  • Upgrade/ Enchant/ Change your weapons/ armour.
I have 73 Archery and I take a bear out with 1 or 2 shots so..
With a Bound Bow (Conjuration) that is, so even cheaper.
When you're playing a squishy mage you're not supposed to charge in. You can check YouTube for various playstyles. Some are tanky and like to rush in to their enemies. I'm squishy so I keep my distance and my bow gets a damage bonus from sneaking. When I get closer to cast Destruction, I first summon an Astronauch (Conjuration) to take the hits for me, together with my companion. Their's no need to apologize, just enjoy and explore :D
 

Dovahkiir

Member
I first summon an Astronauch (Conjuration) to take the hits for me, together with my companion. Their's no need to apologize, just enjoy and explore :D

I don't play as a mage I'm a confirmed muggle but i do carry a couple of staffs with me for when I get in really sticky situations, Staff of Conjure Frost Atronach is ever so useful, those guys really do some damage. Also the Aetherial Staff conjuring Dwarven Spheres and spiders is fun especially if you're hidden, cast it into a bandit camp and watch therm run around like headless chickens.
 

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