How do you know shes not being discriminated against base on her race? She said on the video that living in Windhelm was difficult at first. I too offered an unbiased point of view of what is going on in Windhelm by using Niranye. Just because you happen to not like what she says about the Dark elves doesn't mean that shes wrong. She is in fact right. I provided you with proof just how naive they are, but you still avoid seeing it. Stop being closed minded.
And as far as the Christmas story idea was a pure joke. I was being sarcastic.
When did I say she wasn't ever being discriminated against? I restated what she tells us about how she was "at first", but then she made the "right friends", etc. That strongly suggests that the threats and bad treatment stopped or at least significantly trailed off. I have no doubt that she's not looked upon with friendly eyes in the city, but the outright threats to her person and livelihood stopped or greatly lessened upon making the right connections. She herself states this. I have no idea why this is being re-litigated.
What you did was offer commentary on the Dunmer's situation from someone who is
not experiencing the same situation as the Dunmer. Because, for one thing, she's got connections to back up her status. The carriage driver states very simply that the Dunmer were mandated to live in the Grey Quarter. This is fact. He doesn't speculate on why this is, he merely says it's a part of life in Windhelm. You personally can argue as vigorously as the day is long whether you think it's right or not, but the carriage driver is a Nord who appears non-invested in the situation and is only stating what we know is the reality in the city. What you are doing with Niranye is attempting to use her as a character witness against the Dark Elves - and by the same token, where do we have
proof that the Dunmer brought this upon themselves, that they're not scrimping and eking out an existence the best they can? Even
if she's right, that the Dunmer are "proud and naive", that doesn't change the fact that there's a law in place that restricts what they can do to move up the socioeconomic ladder in Windhelm. She can pass judgment all she wants, but it does not speak to the most fundamental reality of the status quo. The fact that she has had to utilize her "friends" to make sure all was safe for her there is a testament to the underlying problems of racial tension in the capital.
It has nothing to do with me being "close minded". The point is that Niranye is not comparable to the Dunmer in the suggested sense that her ability to "rise above" is totally attainable for any run-of-the-mill Dunmer in Windhelm. Why? Because she has got her own set of connections to the Thieves Guild and likely others who have made her stay there vastly more comfortable than that of her Dark Elf neighbors. I don't care what she says about the Dunmer being proud and naive or what have you. What I factor in, alongside NPC testimony, are facts and observable elements. Things that can be qualified and quantified, in game and in lore. And that is in large part what makes Niranye a problematic source on the Dunmers' situation in Windhelm. Much like if Tullius said all Nords were brainless barbarians, I wouldn't take it as gospel - even if a few like Ulfric and Galmar are offensive to my sensibilities on certain levels. Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if she's saying things like that about the Dunmer because she assumes that it makes her appealing to and easier to stomach for the more insular locals. And truly, at the heart of that quote of hers that you value so much, it boils down to, "I know how to play the game -the Dunmer are too proud to play the game." Some might say good on the Dunmer then, for not accepting things "the way they are".
Because, really, I would sincerely like to know what precisely Niranye's diagnosis and prescription call for when it comes to this situation. Something tells me it would involve kissing of ungrateful behinds and possibly shady dealings, to say the least.
Bottom line: the carriage driver is relating what is known to be
policy; Niranye is offering personal commentary.
