JimmyS1985
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This is a different idea on how to choose Imperials vs Stormcloaks that no one has mentioned in any video. Who does the Jarl of the hold get replaced by when the Stormclocaks vs Imperials win?
Whiterun Hold - Balgruuf gets replaced by Vignor Gray-mane. TO me this is rather neutral, they both seem like ok people in the game, not inherently evil, and may even look out for what's good for Whiterun. I guess the big losers if Vignor Gray-mane gets to be Jarl would be the leader of Whiterun city guard and the Battle-born's. And if the Imperials win the Battle of Whiterun, Heimskr gets imprisoned, even though we all hate Heimskr. Neutral 0 for Imperials.
Riften - Jarl Laila Law-Giver gets replaced by Maven Black Briar. Maven Black Briar comes off as completely power hungry, corrupt, likes to be treated as if she's above the law. I don't think she has the best interests of the citizens in Riften in mind if she obtains power, you can particularly note this from some of the lines of dialogue when she takes the throne. She believes in Nepotism and hire's other Black-briar's to fulfill court duty's. While Jarl Laila-Law Giver may be somewhat of a puppet for Maven Black Briar, there is absolutely no checks and balances in place if Maven Black Briar takes the throne. -1 Imperials
Windhelm - Jarl Ulfric gets replaced by Brun-Wulf Free Winter - This is also somewhat neutral. I guess the biggest winners in this case would be the Dark Elfs and Argonians in Windhelm. Depends on how you look at it, it's positive to neutral, perhaps +1 Imperials to 0 for either side.
Falkreath - Sidgeir gets replaced by Dengeir. Dengeir seems to be a lot less corrupt of a Jarl than Sidgeir. Sidgeir allows you to purchase Lakeview Manor after you assassinate some Orc bandits who quit giving his cut of the deal on some raids they had been doing in his hold. That's pretty corrupt. The guy seems to lavish more in his luxuries from being a Jarl rather than care about his Hold. Dengeir wants the position back and may have the best interests of Falkreath in mind. -1 Imperials.
Markarth - Thongvor Silver-Blood takes place as acting Jarl. Perhaps he's corrupt since the Silver-Bloods are like the Black-briar's of Markarth. The scene in the village Karthwasten where the Silver-bloods by force want to take the last independent Silver mine in Markarth by force, threat and ransom. Also their prison Cidhna mine is notoriously brutal. Igmund doesn't come off as an inherently bad person beyond supporting the empire, allowing the Thalmor into his city and arresting citizenry like Ogmund for worshipping Talos, and he was behind the Markarth incident where the Stormcloaks fulfilled their end of the bargain which was to drive out the Forsworn from Markarth so that Igmund and his family could reclaim the reach. +1 Imperials to a neutral 0 depending on how you look at it I guess but I'm leaning towards neutral.
Dawnstar - Based on my readings on these two potential Jarls seems most of the Pale are tired of Skald the Elder and would prefer his Imperial supporting replacement. He more cares about how the Civil war turns out than how things turns out for the citizens of The Pale. +1 Imperials since the citizenry seems to support his replacement.
Winterhold - The difference between the two Jarls in this case is one is friendly to the college, and the current Jarl, Konir, who supports the Stormcloaks is hostile to the college and wants them banned. I personally like the College of WInterhold and it's professors and students. The friendly Jarl just gets blown off by Savos Aren though whenever he invites him to dinner with him and the citizens are largely neutral on one over the other, I suppose the College members wouldn't care to have themselves banned though. +1 Imperials, perhaps 0 since no one seems to care either way though.
Morthal - Neither Jarl seems popular with the citizenry Ravencrone isn't liked by the citizenry but neither is Sorli the builder. This is a neutral 0 from what I can tell.
Pessimistically it's 2 reakky bad Jarls from the Imperials for some mildy good and neutral Jarls, the only Jarl the Skyrim citizens seem to like that gets replaced is the one in Dawnstar. WIth all this in mind, and the two really plopsty Jarls in Falkreath and Riften that seem to be worse than the Jarl in Dawnstar I'm still leaning towards Stormcloaks but what do others think?
Whiterun Hold - Balgruuf gets replaced by Vignor Gray-mane. TO me this is rather neutral, they both seem like ok people in the game, not inherently evil, and may even look out for what's good for Whiterun. I guess the big losers if Vignor Gray-mane gets to be Jarl would be the leader of Whiterun city guard and the Battle-born's. And if the Imperials win the Battle of Whiterun, Heimskr gets imprisoned, even though we all hate Heimskr. Neutral 0 for Imperials.
Riften - Jarl Laila Law-Giver gets replaced by Maven Black Briar. Maven Black Briar comes off as completely power hungry, corrupt, likes to be treated as if she's above the law. I don't think she has the best interests of the citizens in Riften in mind if she obtains power, you can particularly note this from some of the lines of dialogue when she takes the throne. She believes in Nepotism and hire's other Black-briar's to fulfill court duty's. While Jarl Laila-Law Giver may be somewhat of a puppet for Maven Black Briar, there is absolutely no checks and balances in place if Maven Black Briar takes the throne. -1 Imperials
Windhelm - Jarl Ulfric gets replaced by Brun-Wulf Free Winter - This is also somewhat neutral. I guess the biggest winners in this case would be the Dark Elfs and Argonians in Windhelm. Depends on how you look at it, it's positive to neutral, perhaps +1 Imperials to 0 for either side.
Falkreath - Sidgeir gets replaced by Dengeir. Dengeir seems to be a lot less corrupt of a Jarl than Sidgeir. Sidgeir allows you to purchase Lakeview Manor after you assassinate some Orc bandits who quit giving his cut of the deal on some raids they had been doing in his hold. That's pretty corrupt. The guy seems to lavish more in his luxuries from being a Jarl rather than care about his Hold. Dengeir wants the position back and may have the best interests of Falkreath in mind. -1 Imperials.
Markarth - Thongvor Silver-Blood takes place as acting Jarl. Perhaps he's corrupt since the Silver-Bloods are like the Black-briar's of Markarth. The scene in the village Karthwasten where the Silver-bloods by force want to take the last independent Silver mine in Markarth by force, threat and ransom. Also their prison Cidhna mine is notoriously brutal. Igmund doesn't come off as an inherently bad person beyond supporting the empire, allowing the Thalmor into his city and arresting citizenry like Ogmund for worshipping Talos, and he was behind the Markarth incident where the Stormcloaks fulfilled their end of the bargain which was to drive out the Forsworn from Markarth so that Igmund and his family could reclaim the reach. +1 Imperials to a neutral 0 depending on how you look at it I guess but I'm leaning towards neutral.
Dawnstar - Based on my readings on these two potential Jarls seems most of the Pale are tired of Skald the Elder and would prefer his Imperial supporting replacement. He more cares about how the Civil war turns out than how things turns out for the citizens of The Pale. +1 Imperials since the citizenry seems to support his replacement.
Winterhold - The difference between the two Jarls in this case is one is friendly to the college, and the current Jarl, Konir, who supports the Stormcloaks is hostile to the college and wants them banned. I personally like the College of WInterhold and it's professors and students. The friendly Jarl just gets blown off by Savos Aren though whenever he invites him to dinner with him and the citizens are largely neutral on one over the other, I suppose the College members wouldn't care to have themselves banned though. +1 Imperials, perhaps 0 since no one seems to care either way though.
Morthal - Neither Jarl seems popular with the citizenry Ravencrone isn't liked by the citizenry but neither is Sorli the builder. This is a neutral 0 from what I can tell.
Pessimistically it's 2 reakky bad Jarls from the Imperials for some mildy good and neutral Jarls, the only Jarl the Skyrim citizens seem to like that gets replaced is the one in Dawnstar. WIth all this in mind, and the two really plopsty Jarls in Falkreath and Riften that seem to be worse than the Jarl in Dawnstar I'm still leaning towards Stormcloaks but what do others think?