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Discussion in 'General Skyrim Discussion' started by Mr.Self Destruct, Jul 19, 2012.
not in ac2 but brotherhood and even in revelations..
Yes I would.
I do use a UNP skin mod and it's a nude (not used in this picture though), but since I'm generally covered in the game it doesn't matter. It cleans up the skin mesh and makes it more toned and athletic without being too muscular. It has nice look to it when I am wearing armors that don't completely cover me like some of the light armor sets.
As to the popularity of the cheesecake armor mods I'm not really surprised. That mentality has been around since Lara Croft in Tomb Raider 1. If you provide the community with the opportunity they will build it and others will flock to it.
This is still as far as Dr. D'Irsei has been willing to go to be fashionable:
However, after yet another appointment the other day where a patient kept Fus Roh Dah'ing himself to the floor so he could look under her armor, wasting half an hour and several ebony arrows dipped in special "calming ointment", she has given up and returned to this:
Damned pervy patients are too dumb to know when that funny feeling is "good fortune" trying to tell them something.
One of the reasons I love Skyrim is because revealing vanilla armors are few and far between. After coming from a long line of MMOs in which the only female armor is skimpy armor, I am always pleasantly refreshed to find a game that bucks that norm. Practicality over sex appeal for me, definitely!
That's my issue with UNP. I'd love to use it and the athletically toned skin, but the cleanliness of it all breaks the immersion for me, especially since I wind up with dirty men and clean women.
It doesn't break immersion for me. Notwthstanding that game developers' desire to make us all filthy little creatures, many ancient cultures had decent standards regarding personal hygiene. There seems to be a lot of comparisons made to the Empire and Ancient Rome, and bathing was an almost daily ritual in Ancient Rome practiced accross a wide variety of social classes. The practice spread through provinces in the north including the building of bath houses around hot springs in Northern Europe (and you can actually see hunters bathing at hot spring locations in Skyrim).
There's at least one mod that cleans up the skin for men as well. It also addresses the block like facial features.
It's perverted and sexist as sh** of course, but I don't get the realism, how is that armour going to protect someone in a fight, they might die laughing though.
I think people complaining about this should mind their own business and learn to mod if they care so much.
What do you care if people make mods their way and not your way? Why should you care how I play my games?
What's the appeal in playing a non-human? Different strokes for different people.
It was only in recent history women were even allowed to wear pants, so maybe women shouldn't be fighting dragons at all going by that logic.
If it's wasted potential, than surely you should be able to do better.
Maybe because not everyone likes playing with a character they can't find attractive.
They also didn't obsess over breasts being shown as much as people do today, and rape was treated much more immorally than it is today wherein men are encouraged to go apesh** and rape women just because they show some skin because it couldn't possibly not be her fault.
Today a woman shows her breast and you'll always have someone pointing out that she deserves to be raped because he believes that since he thinks of women as sex toys, so must everyone else, and because everyone else must, they cannot possibly control their urge and thus the woman should be punished for being herself when this is rarely the case to begin with.
I like CBBE, and I'll continue using it. I also prefer skimpy armor sets, too. I also play females exclusively wherein there's the ability to do so.
Don't like it? Think it's a "double standard" because I wouldn't play male characters the same way? You're welcome to make your own mods, and I'll support your right to do so, though I won't support those mods themselves - but I'll expect the same respect vice versa (for instance, I don't simply go about talking about how much like an anorexic doll the vanilla/UNP women look and I simply don't bash the people supporting it). Skyrim is a SP game, and modders are right to mod as they see fit.
i read this and i think the ONLY reason you decided to jump down everyone is because your one of the pervy mods that has these type on your pc... get a life
Is that the only reply you can muster? A red-herring and ad-hominem?
But to reply to it anyways, I'm not afraid of mentioning what I play or do. My modlist documentation is right there in my signature. The only problem here is people that feel they're entitled to someone else's labor and believe they should only mod in a specified manner.
You say that we should learn to mod, but not all of us have the time, patience, skill, or know-how to sit down in front of our computer and make mods that require more work then just quests, as modeling entirely new armor and weapons is more difficult than retexturing and putting pieces of armor together(like hothtrooper's armors).
Then who do you think you are to request that modders do things a certain way? They're the ones going out of their way to make things they enjoy for other people, and you're not. It's one thing to suggest a feature, to point out bugs, and another thing entirely to hate someone's mods and to claim it's wasted potential because it doesn't suit your taste.
just saying they can do something better with their time instead of making soft-core porn (if you will)
We can all do "something better" than sit here playing video games. You're not forced to download anything, nor being forced to play Skyrim.
You're not merely saying "they can do something better...", you're going all the way out calling out people for having no life and using other rude ad-hominems just because we enjoy things and prefer things in ways that you don't.
I have no problem with wanting more immersion. I have no problem with realism. I have no problem with people wanting practical armor mods. My problem is with people like those in this thread.
Look, we have the right to critique whichever mods are uploaded and the Nexus lends itself to the reviewing of mods. I'm not saying these mods should be banned or anything, I'm not saying you shouldn't download them. I just think it's annoying how whenever I click on the Nexus page I get a face full of boobs. I'm merely voicing my opinion on the matter, it's frustrating how I have to sort through simulated eye candy whenever I'm looking for decent armor mods.
Personally, the nude female/sexy armor mods don't offend me. To think that this kind of "sexism" is limited against women just isn't true. Sure, in the gaming communities we see plenty of "male fan service", but how many times have we seen warriors like Conan the Barbarian running around smashing his enemies in a loin cloth?
It's been like this since ancient times. While the female body is more popular to display in nearly all different types of media, the male body certainly isn't left out. The ancient greeks made nude statues of EVERYBODY, with stunning anatomical accuracy. Not to mention the fact that children were walking by statues in those times, and looking at them at "eye level".
I'll probably get attacked for this... but isn't it, in a way, kind of a compliment to the female form being more visually appealing than the male form, and not just a form of "obscenity"?
As for the armor, there is something to be said for trading mobility for protection. The Romans were fully capable of making plated armor, but decided to stick with a simple breastplate and leather greaves because it afforded them more mobility in battle. Big, bulky armor might provide you with more defense against heavy blows, but it slows you down and drains your endurance much faster. I know that it's a far cry from some of the sexy armor mods we see, but fully plated armor was limited to the best knights and generals back in the day, because of the time/cost it required to create. Everyone else really was running around in leather armor or chain shirts.
Look, I don't care whatever people do with their time, but when it starts looking like a porn shop, I just don't come back. Some people are actually offended by nudity, and this game was made "modest" for that reason. If Nexus wants to lose customers, then go ahead, and continue not caring about NSFW. I'm no prude, I play with myself, and all, but I don't do it in front of everbody else. I know some kids surf Nexus, good job guys. You don't have to share your sick fantasies with everyone else.
Not sure why I was quoted here... but anyway, rape was more immoral back then? Doubtful. It was pretty commonplace (and often encouraged) for conquering armies to rape the women of their defeated foes.
Always? I don't know anyone personally that would feel this way.
I don't really disagree with you on the rest of your points. Mods are community driven and community implemented. If the player doesn't like them, simply opt out and don't bother downloading/installing it, it's not like you were forced to pay for it.
To each their own.
Mhm, like I said it was only in recent history (due to Jewish, Islamic, and Puritanic-Christian beliefs) that the female body was recognized as obscene and we're only now starting to see that view as false.
This thread has gone well beyond the original critiquing. Never mind that your original post asked, "what do you think?", to which I made an honest answer. But even so, if you don't like a mod - that's far different from making a feature suggestion or listing bugs and problems. If you want more of a kind of mod to suit your needs, then actually suggest it to others as opposed to going about saying that a mod or group of mods being at the top that you don't like make you just facepalm.
Can't this be considered suggesting to others and getting the word out? I'm being vocal about it and this thread has gotten some attention, the whole idea you need to cram huge boobs and skimpy outfits into the game is annoying to me. But hey, to each their own. I hardly see the appeal in it, and it's frustrating how common they are. I'am vocal about it, I do speak on it.