god Allah and Oprah help me this could take minute. get mad if you want. just telling you how I see it. on the subject of their arrogance however I never said they were doing this because they are arrogant. I'm saying this is happening the way it's happening now because they are arrogant. it's not a motivation it's an accusation. though your welcome to disagree if you feel different. I feel arrogance is one potential reason a dlc release is turning into a sideshow. who can say maybe it's just Hines. I say arrogant because it fit's, (especially hines). if a student studies for a test for one hour when he is advised to and given three months to study he will likely fail. say a thousand people ponder that. words that are likely to come up are lazy, stupid, and or arrogant. which kinda resemble each other when you consider it. because he was arrogant enough to assume that single hour would have been enough. this happens in the business sector more than you could imagine. why devote six month's to making a billion dollars when you could make just over half in four who's gonna care. a million stories, an you already know a few. short sighted or arrogant, again they look a lot alike. i met a guy once friggin genious and we were waiting in the same lobby of an office. this guy took the guts of gaming consoles and made them portable like a gameboy. even made a pinball machine themed after bill paxton. he said these consoles were just parts and code. and as he had 98 odd percent of the parts already the real work was the code and that it always took a little time but not much more than a little if you know what your doing. i'm no expert but I know enough to know that those at Bethesda are. so I wonder when exactly it is that they actually set time aside to review the ps3 parts and code. dawnguard was public knowledge last year right? as for the indignation spare me. I have not treated you or anyone here like an idiot. so telling me I painted all gamers in the same shade is the complete absence of similar courtesy. but I did bring up some negatives that much is plain. theres plenty of positives also. but those are not what have me puzzled. if none of these fit you then I wasn't talking about you. that said I'm not the one making that decision. more to the point where exactly do you think I first started to see some of these negatives. i doubt I would have brought it up on a DISCUSSION page if I wasn't party to it as well. I may not play more than everyone else. but I know I play more than at least some people. I chimed in this site because dawnguard has made for several really unique subjects all worth considering. the fact its being discussed is proof that it's worth pondering. so yeah like everyone here I have questions and opinions. if you disagree with any of it you have a right to. if this seems long winded, your probaly right. hell I'm getting exhausted just proof reading this. and it's not all nice no, but it is relevant to the topic an more importantly an incomplete observation. why else are we here if not give and receive input. if anyone were here to just give input that would mean they had already reached a conclusion. which would technically make it arguing.