My Defense of TESO(TU) & Why You Should Play It

I love ESOTU. Tis a great game.

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I'd love it more if I could go more than 20 minutes without crashing.

 

I really want to try it, but it's just way too expensive for me, and I can't go console, I have to stick to PC because I'm still in PS3(I'm not planning on upgrading in at least one or two years), so I wouldn't have that many friends to play with.

A real shame about that price, if not I would have it ready.

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Haven't they fixed all of this stuff? They said they did....

 

Hershan, do you mean the subscription or the basic game? They did away with subscriptions and went free-to-play, a while back. You still have to own the game, though. Idk how much different the PC version is, price-wise, than the console version, but once you own it you can play all you like.

 

Well...constant crashes and eternal load screens don't count.

 

I mean the basic game, in Steam it's almost 70€, I don't know if you use euros so:
70€=70$
70€=105£
Some people may be able to afford it, I can't.


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Ah, I see what you mean.

 

Have you looked at buying the download code from someone like www.cdkeys.com ? The currently sell the code for £15.99 (pay via paypal option) which is about 22.5euro. The best price I found for a disc copy was micromania/gamestop at 55euro.

Maybe the download key is the way to go - if I had more time I'd be tempted, but I'm playing on the ps4.

 

The game is awesome.

I'm having so much fun. Found a good guild and smashing and playing PVP. Got an awesome group to smash those vet pledges up too.

 

First let me say I actively play the game and even with everything I am about to say about it, it is fun.

But it has issues:
Combat,
1)Auto targeting, curving shots that seek the nearest target under your or near your crosshairs. I have lost to a group of mages throwing spells around and through trees because a rat or snake or other such animal got between me and my intended target. The longshot overdraw of Skyrim where you had to aim for vitals is missing and should be brought back.
2)The Distance at which enemies see you is woefully low, and in some areas it is warranted as they are entirely too populated or have insane respawn rates. Hit distance. I have been hit, bit, claw raked or struck by an enemy that is more than 10 feet away. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to back out of striking distance to a melee attack if I am fast enough.
3) Dodging, the only way to dodge incoming damage is to roll. You cannot strafe walk out of the line of fire, even blocking is ineffective.

Leveling,
1)The way to level a skill line is by having a skill slotted in you action bar. This means even if you never use the skill you can still increase the skill line anyway. Skyrim had it best you gained experience in a skill by using the skill. If you didn't use it, then it languished there like forgotten fruit.
2)Sneaking, thieving. You cannot level up your sneak in anyway other than through various passive skills that do not unlock til later under either racial or armor skill lines. So sneaking around past enemies does nothing but keep you out of combat (sometimes) You do not get any experience for stealing something out of a nearby chest (unless it is locked) or off a table even if you have to carefully time your grab and hold a successful sneak. You only get experience for it when you fence it, not even any for laundering it for use. As a matter of fact, you get far more experience for running up a huge bounty and then paying off a guard or fence to drop your wanted level. which means you are better off sucking at sneaking, getting seen, killing off the person who saw you, running away like a coward, and finding your way into the back door of a thief hideout and paying off your crime. But none for letting the bounty slowly work its way to zero. Which if you have experience with the guards they are invincible, have unlimited magica, and stamina, and if they stop you or kill you all those stolen items are gone forever no place to retrieve them.

Lore,
Here parts of it are good and some is so wrong that if you had never played any other ES game would have you feeling the various alliances would actually be the way they are. Zenimax for the sake of game mechanics put nations that would never work together because of thousands of years of fighting together because they were next to each other. Khajiit and Bosmer, Argonians and Dunmer, Nords and Redguard.(actually Nords and anybody) WTH just throw canon away Zen as it doesn't matter.
Molag Bal, if this had happened why is there no mention of it anywhere in Skyrim.

Guilds,
The missing guilds. Thieves guild, and Dark Brotherhood, or other Assassin guilds. Since Morrowind we have had a quest line for these and in this we have nothing. Not even a mention save a set piece or a character who claims to be an ex-member of one.

Grouping and questing together,
Only 4 to a group, even in the large PvP areas. quests are individual, objectives and conversations, interactions are only for the individual that needs them. So if your going around and helping your buddy you cannot see the next objective, you cannot help by splitting up the tasks even if on the same quest. Conversations are individual so each player must cycle through the various npcs in the quest. The only true co-op is in the group dungeons.

Things they got right, customization, with hundreds of dyes to be earned you can have a veritable rainbow of color and armor combinations on your character. Racial motifs that can be found or purchased abound.
Quests that have a sense of humor. I have run across four or five hilarious quests, filled with tongue in cheek or outright hilarity. One in Grahtwood had me rolling and recording video to save for later.

In summation, I will tell you what I would rather have had.
Tamriel open world, with major quest lines for the guilds (all of them) spanning the entire world. With tons of side quests, and dungeons to explore. With the same or slightly improved Skyrim leveling and combat systems. Player purchasable, or guild permanently purchasable bases or houses, like Hearthfire expansion. Where it was a time in the same line as we are but lore correct. Where you formed a adventuring group and did quests together. if a member of your group had not done the quest, you make them leader, but all objectives were there for the group to see and interact with, but only those who had never completed it got the full experience reward others got a lessened amount. As it is this is a Guild Wars 2 knock off with ES skins and characters, and graphics. That only follows lore if it is convenient. A combat system that basically says, I am not capable to aim. Or choose my targets with any skill.

 

I wavered before casting my vote. I enjoy playing Covenant characters, and I enjoy the Covenant safe haven and the Covenant companions. However, I sincerely dislike the king. Although Altmer buildings are boring in my opinion, I like the Altmer queen and enjoy the quest you take to meet her. I believe that the Dominion lied to the Khajiit that they had restored the moons to the sky. I wouldn't be surprised if it was related to ancient Ayleid magic. Though I chose the Covenant, I'm still wavering. I really don't like the Breton king; he seems young and untrustworthy. I'm unsure about the cause of both factions and the integrity of the Dominion.

 

These two are in different factions.

 

What people need to realise about the game is that it isn't the next ES.

It's and MMO with ES setting.

Lore, aesthetics and plot is the only thing that is relative to ES.

Combat, progression etc is it's own thing. More in line with other MMOs

 

Yes! That's exactly what I mean, Brofski. This isn't another TES game, it's an MMO with a TES theme.

 

When I eventually obtain a PS4 I'll also obtain TESO.

I watch a friend of mine play it and started having God of War flashbacks. Combat mechanics is something that TES could always work on, but what I witnessed with this new game seemed like a regression.

I'll play it for the lore. That's what's kept me hooked on the series: the unparalleled depth and volume of lore. I even purchased the physical book Tales of Tamriel: Book I. An interesting read for sure.

 

Initially the combat mechanics were like going back in time, but now I've developed a couple of characters and their skills properly then I can say I have become more impressed.

Oh yeah, and I met a certain Khajit again last night, he gets around ;-)

 

Kohlar the Unkilled
For a time , I believed that Bethesda 's The Elder Scrolls series contained the best lore attainable : the most in - depth , intricate , interesting , and complete characters and plot. With time and closer inspection , my opinion has changed. There are plentiful plot holes in TES games and the lore of the games are not always compatible with each other. I 'm not saying that the lore is bad or that Bethesda did a bad job ; what I 'm saying is that lore realism doesn't seem to be a main goal of theirs , and that they could have done better lore - wise had they been more interested in pursuing lore over gameplay.

That is a long , winding discussion for another time. Part of the reason I bought ESO [ which was when the subscription fee was removed ] was because I didn't want to miss out on potential lore and exploration. Both aspects remain the main reason why I still play , besides the fact that I mostly enjoy the combat [ but not dungeon ] system. Exploring is possibly the most important thing to me in this game.

ZeroDragon
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