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Do the khajiit gods exist?

Discussion in 'General Skyrim Discussion' started by Ri'tai The Wordsmith, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. Ri'tai The Wordsmith Khaaz dovah of the highest level.

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    I wonder, do the khajiit gods even exist? Some of them seem so much like the daedric princes, and don't you think the legend of Rajhin Sound similar to talos'? If they are different people, why don't the other races talk about him? This is so confusing...
  2. hexperiment The Experimentalist

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    When you say Khajiit gods, do you means gods that Khajiit worship and believe in or gods in form of Khajiit? I'm sure all gods in TES worshipped exist to some extend.
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    i would think op means the gods that khajiit believe in, it would make the most sense to me, perhaps op is looking for shrines to said gods? or just questioning why there is no talk of them?
  4. Ri'tai The Wordsmith Khaaz dovah of the highest level.

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    I was just looking on uesp, but my main question is, does Rajhin, or has he, existed? Because if the khajiit are right, and he has ascended to godhood, then that makes talos Rajhin's bro or something.
  5. Wolfchant Member

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    interesting thoughts, i wish i knew more about the lore of this game, perhaps then id be at liberty to make a suggestion based on this
  6. Ri'tai The Wordsmith Khaaz dovah of the highest level.

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    "Praise talos!"
    "No, praise Rajhin!" *backstab*
  7. Elgrif Skooma Alchemist

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    Praise skooma; Khajit seemed to have just recently settled in Skyrim to trade in caravans and there aren't many permanent residents, but I agree there should be one present.
  8. Ri'tai The Wordsmith Khaaz dovah of the highest level.

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    ^Eh? Sorry, what does that have to do with the khajiit pantheon?
  9. hexperiment The Experimentalist

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    Can you be more specific on the similarity between Rajhin and Talos?
  10. Elgrif Skooma Alchemist

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    Sorry I misunderstood, Khajiits seemed to have derived their god's from the old Aldmeri Pantheon; Akatosh is supposed to be the first cat, Akosh, etc.
  11. Ri'tai The Wordsmith Khaaz dovah of the highest level.

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    Heres a quote from uesp:
    The thief-god of the Khajiiti, legend holds that Rajhin grew up in the Black Kiergo section of Senchal.[29] In life, Rajhin was the most infamous burglar in Elsweyr's history, said to have stolen a tattoo from the neck of the Empress Kintyra as she slept.[29][30] He is accredited with using the Ring of Khajiiti in his thievery, making the ring famous. After his death, Rajhin was inculcated among the Khajiit gods, to serve as an example to them of cleverness and adroit ability. His blessing is most often asked for before undertaking activities of a less-than-lawful nature.
    If you want a link, here ya go! Just scroll down a bit. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Khajiit#Khajiiti_Pantheon
  12. Elgrif Skooma Alchemist

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    Thanks, I don't really see how Khajiits might all follow a thief god; maybe he is more like Nocturnal a avatar?
  13. Ri'tai The Wordsmith Khaaz dovah of the highest level.

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    No, I'm wondering if he literally has achieved godhood like talos, or weather it's just a myth.
  14. Elgrif Skooma Alchemist

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    'After his death, Rajhin was inculcated among the Khajiit gods, to serve as an example to them of cleverness and adroit ability. His blessing is most often asked for before undertaking activities of a less-than-lawful nature." It looks like he is just an additional god they added; the Nords did the opposite of the Khajiit and made Talos the lord of all the divines when he died- a central god (pissing off the Aldmeri). Generally I don't think Rajhinn is a a main focus such as Talos, but he does still have a god status.
  15. hexperiment The Experimentalist

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    There is really no way of knowing if they reached godhood like it says on the book. They are just interpretation of what happened from a perspective of each culture. My guess is that he did but there are a lot of rebuttal on 'godhood' of Talos all across Tamriel. It's more immersive to understand that these are interpreted documents with different theories and stories.
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    I don't think the godhood of Talos is the important thing but only the fact that he exists as a being. I think any culture's belief in an existing being means he or she is truly an existing being. Anything else would lack credibility in universe.
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    I think the game developers just took a page out of real life, and realized all religions are very similar when broken down.
  18. Dar'Raska New Member

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    Hey guys, this book clears everything up about khajiiti religion:

    Ahnissi tells you. You are no longer a mewing kitten and you have learned to keep secrets from Ahnissi, and so Ahnissi tells you.
    In the beginning there were two littermates, Ahnurr and Fadomai. After many phases, Fadomai said to Ahnurr, "Let us wed and make children to share our happiness."
    And they gave birth to Alkosh, the First Cat. And Ahnurr said, "Alkosh, we give you Time, for what is as fast or as slow as a cat?"
    And they gave birth to Khenarthi, the Winds. "Khenarthi, to you we give the sky, for what can fly higher than the wind?"
    And they gave birth to Magrus, the Cat's Eye. "Magrus, to you we give the sun, for what is brighter than the eye of a cat?"
    And they gave birth to Mara, the Mother Cat. "Mara, you are love, for what is more loving than a mother?"
    And they gave birth to S'rendarr, the Runt. "S'rendarr, we give you mercy, for how does a runt survive, except by mercy?"
    And many phases passed and Ahnurr and Fadomai were happy.
    And Ahnurr said, "We should have more children to share our happiness." And Fadomai agreed. And she gave birth to Hermorah. And she gave birth to Hircine. And she gave birth to Merrunz and Mafala and Sangiin and Sheggorath and many others.
    And Fadomai said:
    "Hermorah, you are the Tides, for who can say whether the moons predict the tides or the tides predict the moons?"
    "Hircine, you are the Hungry Cat, for what hunts better than a cat with an empty belly?"
    "Merrunz, you are the Ja'Khajiit, for what is more destructive than an kitten?"
    "Mafala, you are the Clan Mother, for what is more secretive than the ways of the Clan Mothers?"
    "Sangiin, you are the Blood Cat, for who can control the urges of blood?"
    "Sheggorath, you are the Skooma Cat, for what is crazier than a cat on skooma?"
    And Ahnurr said, "Two litters is enough, for too many children will steal our happiness."
    But Khenarthi went to Fadomai and said, "Fadomai-mother, Khenarthi grows lonely so high above the world where not even my brother Alkosh can fly." Fadomai took pity on her and tricked Ahnurr to make her pregnant again.
    And Fadomai gave birth to the Moons and their Motions. And she gave birth to Nirni, the majestic sands and lush forests. And she gave birth to Azurah, the dusk and the dawn.
    And from the beginning, Nirni and Azurah fought for their mother's favor.
    Ahnurr caught Fadomai while she was still birthing, and he was angry. Ahnurr struck Fadomai and she fled to birth the last of her litter far away in the Great Darkness. Fadomai's children heard what had happened, and they all came to be with her and protect her from Ahnurr's anger.
    And Fadomai gave birth to Lorkhaj, the last of her litter, in the Great Darkness. And the Heart of Lorkhaj was filled with the Great Darkness. And when he was born, the Great Darkness knew its name and it was Namiira.
    And Fadomai knew her time was near. Fadomai said:
    "Ja-Kha'jay, to you Fadomai gives the Lattice, for what is steadier than the phases of the moons? Your eternal motions will protect us from Ahnurr's anger." And the moons left to take their place in the heavens. And Ahnurr growled and shook the Great Darkness, but he could not cross the Lattice.
    And Fadomai said:
    "Nirni, to you Fadomai leaves her greatest gift. You will give birth to many people as Fadomai gave birth today." When Nirni saw that Azurah had nothing, Nirni left smiling.
    And all Fadomai's children left except Azurah. And Fadomai said, "To you, my favored daughter, Fadomai leaves her greatest gift. To you Fadomai leaves her secrets." And Fadomai told her favored daughter three things.
    And Fadomai said, "When Nirni is filled with her children, take one of them and change them. Make the fastest, cleverest, most beautiful people, and call them Khajiit."
    And Fadomai said, "The Khajiit must be the best climbers, for if Masser and Secunda fail, they must climb Khenarthi's breath to set the moons back in their courses."
    And Fadomai said, "The Khajiit must be the best deceivers, for they must always hide their nature from the children of Ahnurr."
    And Fadomai said, "The Khajiit must be the best survivors, for Nirni will be jealous, and she will make the sands harsh and the forests unforgiving, and the Khajiit will always be hungry and at war with Nirni."
    And with these words, Fadomai died.
    After many phases, Nirni came to Lorkhaj and said, "Lorkhaj, Fadomai told me to give birth to many children, but there is no place for them."
    And Lorkhaj said, "Lorkhaj makes a place for children and Lorkhaj puts you there so you can give birth." But the Heart of Lorkhaj was filled with the Great Darkness, and Lorkhaj tricked his siblings so that they were forced into this new place with Nirni. And many of Fadomai's children escaped and became the stars. And many of Fadomai's children died to make Nirni's path stable. And the survivors stayed and punished Lorkhaj.

    The children of Fadomai tore out the Heart of Lorkhaj and hid it deep within Nirni. And they said, "We curse you, noisy Lorkhaj, to walk Nirni for many phases."
    But Nirni soon forgave Lorkhaj for Nirni could make children. And she filled herself with children, but cried because her favorite children, the forest people, did not know their shape.
    And Azurah came to her and said, "Poor Nirni, stop your tears. Azurah makes for you a gift of a new people." Nirni stopped weeping, and Azurah spoke the First Secret to the Moons and they parted and let Azurah pass. And Azurah took some forest people who were torn between man and beast, and she placed them in the best deserts and forests on Nirni. And Azurah in her wisdom made them of many shapes, one for every purpose. And Azurah named them Khajiit and told them her Second Secret and taught them the value of secrets. And Azurah bound the new Khajiit to the Lunar Lattice, as is proper for Nirni's secret defenders. Then Azurah spoke the Third Secret, and the Moons shone down on the marshes and their light became sugar.
    But Y'ffer heard the First Secret and snuck in behind Azurah. And Y'ffer could not appreciate secrets, and he told Nirni of Azurah's trick. So Nirni made the deserts hot and the sands biting. And Nirni made the forests wet and filled with poisons. And Nirni thanked Y'ffer and let him change the forest people also. And Y'ffer did not have Azurah's subtle wisdom, so Y'ffer made the forest people Elves always and never beasts. And Y'ffer named them Bosmer. And from that moment they were no longer in the same litter as the Khajiit.
    And because Y'ffer had no appreciation for secrets, he shouted the First Secret across all the heavens with his last breath so that all of Fadomai's children could cross the Lattice. But Azurah, in her wisdom, closed the ears of angry Ahnurr and noisy Lorkhaj so they alone did not hear the word.
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