2hander sword and light armor?

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godinabox

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Hi my first char I am making (lvl 9 atm) is orc barbarian style heavy hitter. Looking through perks it seemed to me that 2 hand swords and light armor was the best way to do this due to a) critical hit chance always seems the best b) regen stamina perk on light armor seemed better than heavy armor perks
just lookin for imput on this build.
 

Volsung

Fortune favours the Bold
Heavy armour is usually better for your style of build, but light armour will prove a challenge in how fast you are able to bring down those tougher, harder hitting enemies. It's a nice change to see light armour being used for an Orc build. I would suggest, personally, to adapt restoration into your build as it will help you if your in a tight squeeze and need healing quickly (this will however sheate your 2h sword whilst you heal), although this is a good choice for any build.
 

brandon

Active Member
thats how my character started but i switched him to a dual weild 1h guy. and ive been using the dragonscale armor forever it seems now. but when i had a 2 handed weapon i was using an orcish warhammer. that thing was phenominal. but if your looking for a tradeoff speed vs power the battle axe is a 2 handed and deals more dam then a sword not as much as a warhammer but has extra bleeding as a perk. and its still faster then warhammer.
 

godinabox

New Member
Heavy armour is usually better for your style of build, but light armour will prove a challenge in how fast you are able to bring down those tougher, harder hitting enemies. It's a nice change to see light armour being used for an Orc build. I would suggest, personally, to adapt restoration into your build as it will help you if your in a tight squeeze and need healing quickly (this will however sheate your 2h sword whilst you heal), although this is a good choice for any build.

I might put resto in although I ideally want to not do any magic with this guy. I was thinking if I added in the non shield block specs I could avoid using magic as much as possible besides potions. Also I was wondering why people would prefer the heavy armor over the light. The high level ones seem to have similair armor rating so I guess I was wondering is there some special heavy armor that has bonuses to 2hander skills that I would miss out on that makes light armor not worth going?
 

Volsung

Fortune favours the Bold
You can find all kinds of enchanted armour that you can disenchant and enchant your current armour that will help you with 2h skill.
 

M'aiqaelF

Male, 32 years old, Denver area, CO
hmmmm, think it would be better to do 2H w/ heavy armor and just carry stamina potions with you
 

morguen87

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It's worth noting that the game was designed for this to be a viable option. Nords have a +10 in two handed, a +5 bonus to light armor, and no bonus to heavy armor.

It just requires a different strategy. Instead of charging into a bad situation, you may have to work archery into your build. Not necessarily sneak archery, but at least something you can use at range to soften up a group.
And instead of standing toe to toe with your greatsword, think about weaving in and out, attack and back up to avoid a counter attack.
Finally, there is a perk in to the two handed tree that lets you do a sprinting power attack with two handed weapons that does double critical damage. With some points invested in stamina in conjunction with the light armor, you can make full use of this, and sprinting alone, to manuever around the battle field faster.

Basically it will important to remember that since you're in light armor, don't play like you would in heavy armor like standing toe to toe with heavy armored opponents swinging your greatsword. Otherwise, you're not using the strength of the light armor - speed is your advantage.
 

godinabox

New Member
hmmmm, think it would be better to do 2H w/ heavy armor and just carry stamina potions with you
I mean you think warrior and you think heavy plate but just looking at the perks if your trying to dish out meelee damage the light armor perks look better on paper and I am assuming as with most rpg games end game armors are not really very different between heavy and light. So i guess im asking why you feel heavy is better? (not arguing for arguments sake I just have powergaming too deep in my blood to not theorycraft the best heavy hitter possible)
 

Jaeger

Active Member
I have a Nord barbarian with fur kilt and 2 handed sword. he wrecks the house, go for it. He jumps from balconies, roof tops, etc and kill everything!

Though, I do use the heavy horned helmet and it throws that one perk off and maybe several other. It's just the light helmets for a nord barbarian suck. So I compensated with the magic itemed furs.
 

brandon

Active Member
I mean you think warrior and you think heavy plate but just looking at the perks if your trying to dish out meelee damage the light armor perks look better on paper and I am assuming as with most rpg games end game armors are not really very different between heavy and light. So i guess im asking why you feel heavy is better? (not arguing for arguments sake I just have powergaming too deep in my blood to not theorycraft the best heavy hitter possible)
i dont know all the stats of the armor but my character is lvl 41 with light armor. i wear dragonscale armor and my armor rating is 456. my wife is lvl 40 with deadric armor and hers was 350ish but i think she finally got it up to 400 last night after she got to lvl 40. so the best light and heavy armor seem to be pretty equal so far. i think it has more to do with looks and there is a perk for both to make heavy and light armor weigh nothing so it doesnt effect your stamina.
 

vincent

SC2: DudeMan 346
Forget the restoration, go for alchemy. Any potions that you don't use are easy shopkeeper fodder to take out all their gold. I'm at 60 with alchemy and I have to go to 3 towns to sell my loot plus potions. For bosses, just use a slow poison and a bunch of fortify potions then GG no re.
 

modi

Member
First of all, I am an Orc that is a complete tanking badass. 2 handed weapons are his specialty. HOWEVER, I respectfully disagree with your choice of using light armor. If you are using a 2 handed weapon, you are already losing the extra armor provided by a shield, and by using light armor, you are providing yourself with even less defense than heavy armor provides. This is why I feel that if you use 2 handed weapons, heavy armor is a must. Heavy armor makes up for the shield that you can no longer use.
 

godinabox

New Member
First of all, I am an Orc that is a complete tanking badass. 2 handed weapons are his specialty. HOWEVER, I respectfully disagree with your choice of using light armor. If you are using a 2 handed weapon, you are already losing the extra armor provided by a shield, and by using light armor, you are providing yourself with even less defense than heavy armor provides. This is why I feel that if you use 2 handed weapons, heavy armor is a must. Heavy armor makes up for the shield that you can no longer use.

By mid game (and really even in early game) the armor rating diff between heavy and light is negligable and for damage reduction its the block skills and perks that you use for damage mitigation not the armor. The reason that I am picking light armor over heavy is the perks (take no damage 10% of the time vrs return damage 10% of the time) and the 50% stamina regen which means you can be power attacking and getting in and out of combat more vs 50% stagger resist. Not that heavy is not good but from a what synergizes best on paper light perks seem to > heavy for 2hander where your tryin to dish out the damage. Now when I make a shadow knight type char and use summons/destruction/shield/1h I will deff go heavy because I will want to not get staggered while casting
 

thecelticlatino

Active Member
It's a very viable build, I have a level 21 Nord who specializes in just that (light armor/2hand weapons) and for the most part she can take out mobs of enemies.

For starting levels you may want to focus on health and agile defender in order to boost health and armor rating (which will obviously be low). Later levels you want to focus on raising stamina (a must for 2hand specialists, especially light armored ones, the goal is to be fast enough to take them out before they do the same to you).

However I do agree with modi that heavy armor is probably more ideal for 2handers. Since there's going to be little to no magic involved (since you'll probably be focused as a warrior) and your other hand will be used for your weapon, you want to have a high armor to take more damage. Also do make sure you take up smithing and enchanting in order to have armor and weapons that increase resistance and effective against armor and magicka (enemy mages are a pain as are bandit chiefs/marauders).

I say go for it regardless, I have found it to be a pretty fun build.
 

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