thinking about becoming an imperial race and joining the legion.

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jonathan90

well known member
I have for a long time fought alongside ulferic stormcloak, but now I just think he is a murderer and a douchbag.

I am really sick of ulferic and his arrogence on nords ruling skyrim. When general talius is a multi cultural race aspect....

"skyrim belongs to the nords" in my opinion is ulferic's racist words.....

I am sick of his arrogence for starters......

So, I am going back to when I first started a new game in early 2012 when I first started playing skyrim.

I am going to be an imperial again and fight for the true king of skyrim!!!!!titus mede the 2nd and destroy the dark brotherhood!!!!!

The true owners of skyrim are the imperials!!!!! for all races!!!!!

I am going to call my imperial Leonadass Asparticass.
 

Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
Jon you damn traitor you! How can you talk down to High King Ulfric Stormcloak! SHAME ON YOU!

Just remember that it was the Imperial Legion that was wanting to do some head chopping on you, not Ulfric Stormcloak and his Army. Just remember how your name wasn't on the list, and they still didn't care. Ulfric Stormcloak is not a murderer. Don't give in to their Imperial propaganda.

What is wrong with Nords ruling their own country?

Argonian rules the Black marsh
Bosmer rules Valenwood
Breton rles High Rock
Imperial rules Cyrodiil
Khajiit rules Elsweyr
Orc rules Orsinium
Dunmer use to rule Morrowind until the volcanic eruption.
And not but least Summerset isle is ruled by the Aldmeri Dominion aka the Altmer race.

So why do people complain so much that the Nords want to rule the country that they successfully won many centuries ago? Why are people so appose of Skyrim being an independent state? Hammerfell did, so why can't Skyrim? Is it because they don't want to see their precious Empire go down the toilet? Like it is already.

The Empire can't even protect their own damn country against the Dominion without signing peoples freedom of religion away to the elves.
 

Majir-Dar

Confused Khajiit
Oh and if you want to talk about racism... Explain to me this. If the Empire was so race friendly... how come no other race but Imperial and Nord was ever titled as Emperor/Empress? Explain that to me.
Actually there was a Dunmer Empress, her name was Katariah.

Empress Katariah, born Katariah Ra'athim, was part of a prominent Ebonheart family, and she had been Duchess of Vvardenfell before she was married to the future Emperor Pelagius Septim III, ruler of Solitude, in 3E 141.[1][2] The unusual union was thought to have occurred both to cement Imperial relations with Ebonheart and because Emperor Magnus hoped Katariah, who was known for her shrewdness, could help conceal his son Pelagius' eccentricities.[3] Katariah was awarded the regency of Tamriel in 3E 147.[1] The Empress Regent of Tamriel was proclaimed Empress Katariah I upon the death of her husband in 3E 153, and her almost fifty-year reign is remembered as a happy one.
-UESP
 

Majir-Dar

Confused Khajiit
Jon you damn traitor you! How can you talk down to High King Ulfric Stormcloak! SHAME ON YOU!

Just remember that it was the Imperial Legion that was wanting to do some head chopping on you, not Ulfric Stormcloak and his Army. Just remember how your name wasn't on the list, and they still didn't care. Ulfric Stormcloak is not a murderer. Don't give in to their Imperial propaganda.

What is wrong with Nords ruling their own country?

Argonian rules the Black marsh
Bosmer rules Valenwood
Breton rles High Rock
Imperial rules Cyrodiil
Khajiit rules Elsweyr
Orc rules Orsinium
Dunmer use to rule Morrowind until the volcanic eruption.
And not but least Summerset isle is ruled by the Aldmeri Dominion aka the Altmer race.

So why do people complain so much that the Nords want to rule the country that they successfully won many centuries ago? Why are people so appose of Skyrim being an independent state? Hammerfell did, so why can't Skyrim? Is it because they don't want to see their precious Empire go down the toilet? Like it is already.

The Empire can't even protect their own damn country against the Dominion without signing peoples freedom of religion away to the elves.
Orsinium was sacked by the Bretons and Redguards. So in other words, Orsinium no longer exists.
 

Cren Reon

Lord Mustard

Majir-Dar

Confused Khajiit
Jon you damn traitor you! How can you talk down to High King Ulfric Stormcloak! SHAME ON YOU!

Just remember that it was the Imperial Legion that was wanting to do some head chopping on you, not Ulfric Stormcloak and his Army. Just remember how your name wasn't on the list, and they still didn't care. Ulfric Stormcloak is not a murderer. Don't give in to their Imperial propaganda.

What is wrong with Nords ruling their own country?

Argonian rules the Black marsh
Bosmer rules Valenwood
Breton rles High Rock
Imperial rules Cyrodiil
Khajiit rules Elsweyr
Orc rules Orsinium
Dunmer use to rule Morrowind until the volcanic eruption.
And not but least Summerset isle is ruled by the Aldmeri Dominion aka the Altmer race.

So why do people complain so much that the Nords want to rule the country that they successfully won many centuries ago? Why are people so appose of Skyrim being an independent state? Hammerfell did, so why can't Skyrim? Is it because they don't want to see their precious Empire go down the toilet? Like it is already.

The Empire can't even protect their own damn country against the Dominion without signing peoples freedom of religion away to the elves.
Orsinium was sacked by the Bretons and Redguards. So in other words, Orsinium no longer exists.
The Dominion also rules over Valenwood and Eleswer.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I'm in the midst of one of those now. Sure, the Legion can be some kinda douchy sometimes, but, then again so can "Holier Than Thou" Ulfick. I've done the whole Stormcloak thing and it was dissappointing so I'm gonna try the Legion thing. Besides, my Imperial is gorgeous and has the greatest t*** I've ever seen! Good Lord, how does she stand upright in her armor and, speaking of armor, is it really necessary for it to "accentuate" the positives so much?
 

DrunkenMage

Intoxicated Arch-Mage
Oh and if you want to talk about racism... Explain to me this. If the Empire was so race friendly... how come no other race but Imperial and Nord was ever titled as Emperor/Empress? Explain that to me.

There have been Breton, Nord & Imperial Emperors, also a Dark Elf Empress. An Altmer ruled over the Empire during and after the Oblivion Crisis, there have been Argonian Elder Council members, Orc nobles within the Empire etc.

Jon you damn traitor you! How can you talk down to High King Ulfric Stormcloak! SHAME ON YOU!

Just remember that it was the Imperial Legion that was wanting to do some head chopping on you, not Ulfric Stormcloak and his Army. Just remember how your name wasn't on the list, and they still didn't care. Ulfric Stormcloak is not a murderer. Don't give in to their Imperial propaganda.

What is wrong with Nords ruling their own country?

Argonian rules the Black marsh
Bosmer rules Valenwood
Breton rles High Rock
Imperial rules Cyrodiil
Khajiit rules Elsweyr
Orc rules Orsinium
Dunmer use to rule Morrowind until the volcanic eruption.
And not but least Summerset isle is ruled by the Aldmeri Dominion aka the Altmer race.

So why do people complain so much that the Nords want to rule the country that they successfully won many centuries ago? Why are people so appose of Skyrim being an independent state? Hammerfell did, so why can't Skyrim? Is it because they don't want to see their precious Empire go down the toilet? Like it is already.

The Empire can't even protect their own damn country against the Dominion without signing peoples freedom of religion away to the elves.

Nords do rule Skyrim, the last High King was Nord, the High King before him was Nord and more than likely the High King before him.

The Empire is High Rock, it is Skyrim and it is Cyrodiil and also probably Orsinium since many Orcs join the Ruby Legions.

Hammerfell went independent as one nation. Stormcloaks aren't even the majority in Skyrim. Cyrodiil is just the seat of the Empire, the Empire itself is more than one 'country' also since the Aldmeri Dominion suffered a major defeat resulting in their destruction in their main army plus all their other extra forces they sent in on a gamble, they couldn't even reinforce their soldiers during the war in Hammerfell years later.

In 4E 174, the Thalmor leadership committed all available forces to the campaign in Cyrodiil, gambling on a decisive victory to end the war once and for all.

In the end, the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil was completely destroyed. The Emperor's decision to withdraw from the Imperial City in 4E 174 was bloodily vindicated.

Lord Naarifin was kept alive for thirty-three days, hanging from the White-Gold tower. It is not recorded where his body was buried, if it was buried at all.

The Empire barely had enough soldiers to effectively protect the lands of the Empire during peace time. So the thought of continuing war is idiotic and lacks any common sense. Thousands of innocents shouldn't suffer so a few grumpy old Nords who sit in a Tavern all day can thump their chests going "Good defeat it was" while the Dominion simply strolls in slowly without much resistance.

The Empire never enforced the Talos ban, many Nords didn't even give a crap until Ulfric made a big fuss about it. Like a child demanding something and when not getting attention he acts up, just like he did during the Markarth Incident and during the killing of High King Torygg. Wasn't until Ulfric's crap did the ban start getting enforced. There are eight other Gods in the religion, why aren't you shouting about them, some more important than Talos.

"We didn't pay much attention to it when I was a boy - everyone still had their little shrine to Talos. But then Ulfric and his "Sons of Skyrim" started agitating about it, and sure enough the Emperor had to crack down."

"Ulfric founded the Stormcloaks years ago, as a sort of private army to advance his ambitions. He's always used the ban on the worship of Talos to stir people up against the Empire. He never succeeded in getting much support..."

Also killing innocents to get what you want is hardly honorable.

With chaos running through the streets of Markarth and the reports of deaths rising every day, the Empire had no choice but to grant Ulfric and his men their worship.

Many Nords don't even worship the Nine Divines, considering them imposter Gods. Technically you and the rest of the Stormcloaks aren't even "True Nords" you're basically an "Imperialised Nord" when it comes to religion, forsaking Nordic Gods for an Aldmeri pantheon with very watered down Nordic Gods. Why do you think the Thalmor say "It's a religious matter. The Thalmor do not recognize Talos as a god. He was only a man, and does not deserve to a place in our pantheon."

You're messing with their religion. Besides, the Nords forbid the people of the Reach freedom of worship so don't cry victim.

Tiber Septim / Talos wasn't even a good man, they make him out like such the hero, but if you read up on him you see past the propaganda of the Imperial Cult. Or are you such a worthy servant of the words of the Imperial Cult and their religion that you can't even see what things he did. He conquered the lands, brought armies into places that never threatened him, he took prisoners of war as slaves and sold them.

 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
Oh and if you want to talk about racism... Explain to me this. If the Empire was so race friendly... how come no other race but Imperial and Nord was ever titled as Emperor/Empress? Explain that to me.

There have been Breton, Nord & Imperial Emperors, also a Dark Elf Empress. An Altmer ruled over the Empire during and after the Oblivion Crisis, there have been Argonian Elder Council members, Orc nobles within the Empire etc.

Jon you damn traitor you! How can you talk down to High King Ulfric Stormcloak! SHAME ON YOU!

Just remember that it was the Imperial Legion that was wanting to do some head chopping on you, not Ulfric Stormcloak and his Army. Just remember how your name wasn't on the list, and they still didn't care. Ulfric Stormcloak is not a murderer. Don't give in to their Imperial propaganda.

What is wrong with Nords ruling their own country?

Argonian rules the Black marsh
Bosmer rules Valenwood
Breton rles High Rock
Imperial rules Cyrodiil
Khajiit rules Elsweyr
Orc rules Orsinium
Dunmer use to rule Morrowind until the volcanic eruption.
And not but least Summerset isle is ruled by the Aldmeri Dominion aka the Altmer race.

So why do people complain so much that the Nords want to rule the country that they successfully won many centuries ago? Why are people so appose of Skyrim being an independent state? Hammerfell did, so why can't Skyrim? Is it because they don't want to see their precious Empire go down the toilet? Like it is already.

The Empire can't even protect their own damn country against the Dominion without signing peoples freedom of religion away to the elves.

Nords do rule Skyrim, the last High King was Nord, the High King before him was Nord and more than likely the High King before him.

The Empire is High Rock, it is Skyrim and it is Cyrodiil and also probably Orsinium since many Orcs join the Ruby Legions.

Hammerfell went independent as one nation. Stormcloaks aren't even the majority in Skyrim. Cyrodiil is just the seat of the Empire, the Empire itself is more than one 'country' also since the Aldmeri Dominion suffered a major defeat resulting in their destruction in their main army plus all their other extra forces they sent in on a gamble, they couldn't even reinforce their soldiers during the war in Hammerfell years later.

In 4E 174, the Thalmor leadership committed all available forces to the campaign in Cyrodiil, gambling on a decisive victory to end the war once and for all.

In the end, the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil was completely destroyed. The Emperor's decision to withdraw from the Imperial City in 4E 174 was bloodily vindicated.

Lord Naarifin was kept alive for thirty-three days, hanging from the White-Gold tower. It is not recorded where his body was buried, if it was buried at all.

The Empire barely had enough soldiers to effectively protect the lands of the Empire during peace time. So the thought of continuing war is idiotic and lacks any common sense. Thousands of innocents shouldn't suffer so a few grumpy old Nords who sit in a Tavern all day can thump their chests going "Good defeat it was" while the Dominion simply strolls in slowly without much resistance.

The Empire never enforced the Talos ban, many Nords didn't even give a crap until Ulfric made a big fuss about it. Like a child demanding something and when not getting attention he acts up, just like he did during the Markarth Incident and during the killing of High King Torygg. Wasn't until Ulfric's crap did the ban start getting enforced. There are eight other Gods in the religion, why aren't you shouting about them, some more important than Talos.

"We didn't pay much attention to it when I was a boy - everyone still had their little shrine to Talos. But then Ulfric and his "Sons of Skyrim" started agitating about it, and sure enough the Emperor had to crack down."

"Ulfric founded the Stormcloaks years ago, as a sort of private army to advance his ambitions. He's always used the ban on the worship of Talos to stir people up against the Empire. He never succeeded in getting much support..."

Also killing innocents to get what you want is hardly honorable.

With chaos running through the streets of Markarth and the reports of deaths rising every day, the Empire had no choice but to grant Ulfric and his men their worship.

Many Nords don't even worship the Nine Divines, considering them imposter Gods. Technically you and the rest of the Stormcloaks aren't even "True Nords" you're basically an "Imperialised Nord" when it comes to religion, forsaking Nordic Gods for an Aldmeri pantheon with very watered down Nordic Gods. Why do you think the Thalmor say "It's a religious matter. The Thalmor do not recognize Talos as a god. He was only a man, and does not deserve to a place in our pantheon."

You're messing with their religion. Besides, the Nords forbid the people of the Reach freedom of worship so don't cry victim.

Tiber Septim / Talos wasn't even a good man, they make him out like such the hero, but if you read up on him you see past the propaganda of the Imperial Cult. Or are you such a worthy servant of the words of the Imperial Cult and their religion that you can't even see what things he did. He conquered the lands, brought armies into places that never threatened him, he took prisoners of war as slaves and sold them.
Very well put!
 

Lunaruse

The Milkdrinking Elf
In my opinion it isn't much a choice between Imperial vs. Stormcloak, it's a choice between selflessness and selfishness.

If you join the Legion, there is no guarantee that you will be able to worship Talos in your lifetime, but the Dominion will eventually be beaten back and your children and grandchild and their children will be able to worship freely.

If you join the Stormcloaks, You will be able to worship freely for a time, until the Dominion stomps over Skyrim, then there would be no more freedom at all.

So what are you willing to give up, your temporary freedom or the freedom of the generations to come?
 

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