First house

LotusEater · May 29, 2013

Daelon DuLac said:
Why wouldn't you store things in there? It's yours and it's convenient. Until I built my houses, I always stored mine in the satchel of my house in Markarth. It is yours and won't dissappear. Where would you store it? In Breezehome it's either in the satchel or in the trunk. As long as Lydia's there, whose gonna steal 'em. Actually, who would steal 'em anyhow - Arcadia?

While I pretty much only use alchemy to create enchanting & smithing enhancers, it does level you up quickly. Plus it's a ready source of cash. Besides, the ingredients are worth next to nothing, so what's the point in selling them. You might as well not even bother picking them up (there are exceptions, of course - void salts worth 125, etc...).

Because if you empty it out, it may respawn with a human heart. I use poison a lot. Of course you have to be away from your house long enough to let it respawn but that's usually not a problem for me. Plus why use a satchel when you got a big fat chest in the same room?

Daelon DuLac · May 29, 2013

orca45 said:
I would not waste money on add the alchemy room in Breezehome. You can use the one located in Dragonreach beside the Enchanting table, just my 2 cents ...

Why would you want to go all the way up there? Besides, they're not even yours. Basically you're interfering with somebody else's stuff? It's like pushing Calcemo or his nephew off the enchanting table in Markarth so you can use it because you're too cheap to put on in your house. Just wrong.

Joker · May 29, 2013

Howarthee said:
I've never really been into alchemy... The first time I try to get into it, and spend the extra money for convenience, it never arrives...Methinks the steward is pocketing my money...

Yeah, Alchemy is one skill I just cannot get the feel for. I understand spells, swinging a weapon, but the alchemy rarely gets used, and has yet to level up for my players....

LotusEater · May 29, 2013

Joker said:
Yeah, Alchemy is one skill I just cannot get the feel for. I understand spells, swinging a weapon, but the alchemy rarely gets used, and has yet to level up for my players....

Kinda feel like you guys are missing out. You should try it. Just grab every ingredient available... within reason. Don't be like me and end up across the region gathering fish, but ingredients are light and the crap you love beating the snot out of has some of the best ingredients.

Poison's are extremely powerful if you perk up and every Giant's Toe is suddenly worth a couple thousand gold. Don't worry so much about potion quality or usefulness when you starting off as even at the lowest rate of return, a potion is usually worth way more than it's components. And potions are light. With a little leveling, their weight/cost ratio is hard to beat.

Daelon DuLac · May 29, 2013

Joker said:
Yeah, Alchemy is one skill I just cannot get the feel for. I understand spells, swinging a weapon, but the alchemy rarely gets used, and has yet to level up for my players....

I just buy/gather all kinds of ingredients and make all kinds of potions and poisons. I don't really pay attention to the recipies and don't really use the poisons, but, hey. Not something I'm interested in. Usually I just perk it all up, legendize it, move the perks elsewhere and start over again. It doesn't really make a difference and I get some good coin from all the potions, especially since I perked up speech so that I can sell anything to anyone.

LotusEater · May 29, 2013

And my advice, if you're gonna delve in, don't focus on it at all. Just go about your business questing and killing like normal, only when you loot a dragon, grab the mountain flowers too. Grab every thing and whenever you go home to unload, just unload and rinse and repeat until you have a nice gob. If you want to take it a step further, make a point to stop at alchemy shops when convenient and buy them out. Keep dumping until you're satisfied or feel like dealing with it, grab the entire lot and station up. Eat what you need to learn. If you've been collecting with a semi-purpose you will have plenty to eat and then make.

If you can afford to spend perk points, all the better. Once you start leveling and perking up, you will be able to hit 100 fairly easily and mark it Legendary if you want. Once learned, ingredients aren't unlearned so you'd be starting off with the advantage on the next run.

Daelon DuLac · May 29, 2013

LotusEater said:
And my advice, if you're gonna delve in, don't focus on it at all. Just go about your business questing and killing like normal, only when you loot a dragon, grab the mountain flowers too. Grab every thing and whenever you go home to unload, just unload and rinse and repeat until you have a nice gob. If you want to take it a step further, make a point to stop at alchemy shops when convenient and buy them out. Keep dumping until you're satisfied or feel like dealing with it, grab the entire lot and station up. Eat what you need to learn. If you've been collecting with a semi-purpose you will have plenty to eat and then make.

If you can afford to spend perk points, all the better. Once you start leveling and perking up, you will be able to hit 100 fairly easily and mark it Legendary if you want. Once learned, ingredients aren't unlearned so you'd be starting off with the advantage on the next run.

Absotively. Personally, I don't really use anything but invisibility and Ultimate Healing potions so the rest are just cash makers. Once every couple of weeks I check my stock (I keep them all at one house), buy out all the alchemists and make 100's of potions. Just remember to concentrate on high value ones as they click up really fast. As LotusEater says, rinse and repeat. I use it alot when I'm close to leveling up anyhow and just need to push over the edge.

Nighthiker77 · May 29, 2013

I just installed a really cool mod that let's you learn all the alchemy effects from an old set of lab notes. I did it the hard way on PS3 but once is enough. I'm at level 77 now and my alchemy is around 20. With the effects unlocked I might actually use it.

Howarthee · May 30, 2013

LotusEater said:
Kinda feel like you guys are missing out. You should try it. Just grab every ingredient available... within reason. Don't be like me and end up across the region gathering fish, but ingredients are light and the crap you love beating the snot out of has some of the best ingredients.

Poison's are extremely powerful if you perk up and every Giant's Toe is suddenly worth a couple thousand gold. Don't worry so much about potion quality or usefulness when you starting off as even at the lowest rate of return, a potion is usually worth way more than it's components. And potions are light. With a little leveling, their weight/cost ratio is hard to beat.

I've done it a bit, but I can never remember which go together to make what, so I end up mixing random things together and getting potions I'll never use (not that I ever use potions anyways

). I went through a phase where I would collect everything and try to make stuff, but I felt like the end game wasn't worth the time it would take to get there. It's the same with enchanting for me...I never use enchanted equipment, so why bother using the skill? That's all it boils down to with me...

shadowkitty · May 30, 2013

My first game I had Whiterun as my first home, then bought all the others as the game progressed. But my main house was Breezehome. My Husband was there, and I used the alchemy lab a lot. I stored all my ingredients in the chest above the shelves. I had a few things scattered around in different houses, like the dragon priest masks in the safe at the Arch Mages Quarters. I found it a little confusing though when I needed to find a particular item.
In my second game I am using the house in riften as my main base. Although I'm not there often. I like to keep things in separate places though...like a suit of armour in the wardrobe, smithing items in the chest, necklaces in the bedside table...etc. I have Breezehome as my second main house because I married Farkas and I didn't want him to be too far from the other companions..lol.. The other houses I just bought for gameplay and only visit them once or twice.

Breezehome is my favourite though because Whiterun is almost always sunny.

Grob · May 30, 2013

You can pick up things (as in carry them around/ move, drag), L3 on the PS3, hold A on Xbox. You can customize your house, but it is very hard, you have to be precise. You can easily clear a little table at the front door and put loot like gems on it, collect candle sticks and get them in their upright position (I think you can collect candle sticks?), you could try getting a book to stay open on a table, stack some bottles of wine, skooma and poisons. I don't know if they will stay in their positions though. You can easily customize your house past picking the list of upgrades, you just have to have patience. You could put a Statue of Diabella next to your bed, endless possibility.

Note: If you drop everything on the ground that you want to decorate with, leave house and re-enter this will aparently stop them from moving from where you place them. Haven't tested out myself though.

Nighthiker77 · May 30, 2013

The first piece is easy. After that, you end up knocking everything out of place with the next thing you add.

Daelon DuLac · May 30, 2013

Nighthiker77 said:
The first piece is easy. After that, you end up knocking everything out of place with the next thing you add.

I gave up and just let everything lay all over the place. At least in Hearthfire, apparently they clean up after you, cause everything seems to be back in place when I come back after leaving.

Nighthiker77 · May 30, 2013

I will take time to properly place my statues of Dibella though. They are too cool on sit in a chest

Black Orchid · May 30, 2013

Still haven't bought a house even though I've been playing for a few months now. I just take a jaunt over to Anise's Cabin after escaping Helgen, run the old crone through with my blade and dump her into a nearby river (she'll eventually attack you anyway, so don't feel bad about doing this).

It's a free shack with a bed, plenty of miscellaneous storage containers, and two nice bonuses in the cellar (you'll have to pick the lock first):

-Alchemy Table
-Enchanting Table

I clean up all the useless stuff lying around and replace it with ingredients, soul gems, potions, and any other useful loot that I come across while on my adventures.

It's not pretty to look at, but it's good enough until you can accumulate enough wealth to buy your first official house.

jr866gooner · May 31, 2013

Nighthiker77 said:
I will take time to properly place my statues of Dibella though. They are too cool on sit in a chest

Im on xbox, how do we pick up things and move them?

Black Orchid said:
Still haven't bought a house even though I've been playing for a few months now. I just take a jaunt over to Anise's Cabin after escaping Helgen, run the old crone through with my blade and dump her into a nearby river (she'll eventually attack you anyway, so don't feel bad about doing this).

It's a free shack with a bed, plenty of miscellaneous storage containers, and two nice bonuses in the cellar (you'll have to pick the lock first):

-Alchemy Table
-Enchanting Table

I clean up all the useless stuff lying around and replace it with ingredients, soul gems, potions, and any other useful loot that I come across while on my adventures.

It's not pretty to look at, but it's good enough until you can accumulate enough wealth to buy your first official house.

Ah cool

Firstly where is this cabin? I may have killed her already? Was she a lonely old lady/witch?

iirc she was nearby whiterun?

Sent from my GS2 running LSS NeatRom Lite

Nighthiker77 · May 31, 2013

I haven't played on xbox but it should be the same button you use to take something, just hold it instead of clicking it. Once you've held it for a second or 2, you'll be holding the object and you can let go. Then click the same button to release the object.

jr866gooner · May 31, 2013

Nighthiker77 said:
I haven't played on xbox but it should be the same button you use to take something, just hold it instead of clicking it. Once you've held it for a second or 2, you'll be holding the object and you can let go. Then click the same button to release the object.

Right! I shall try when I play tomorrow night! Lol

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Joker · May 31, 2013

Black Orchid said:
Still haven't bought a house even though I've been playing for a few months now. I just take a jaunt over to Anise's Cabin after escaping Helgen, run the old crone through with my blade and dump her into a nearby river (she'll eventually attack you anyway, so don't feel bad about doing this).

It's a free shack with a bed, plenty of miscellaneous storage containers, and two nice bonuses in the cellar (you'll have to pick the lock first):

-Alchemy Table
-Enchanting Table

I clean up all the useless stuff lying around and replace it with ingredients, soul gems, potions, and any other useful loot that I come across while on my adventures.

It's not pretty to look at, but it's good enough until you can accumulate enough wealth to buy your first official house.

Your things don't get taken? That is my main concern about using her cabin, that what I store there would get taken. I forgot about the enchanting table, I will be headed back there tonight...

Joker · May 31, 2013

jr866gooner said:
Right! I shall try when I play tomorrow night! Lol

Sent from my GS2 running LSS NeatRom Lite

All you have to do is hold the X button on XBox, the same one you use to take items from dead bodies. Holding it down, move and the corpse will move the same way. Raise the right stick (I Think), and the corpse should raise in the air.

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