So.. Do we think there will be another TES?

Now that they are done with Skyrim, do we think Bethesda will make TES6?

I'm not debating weither or not everything will be turned into online games, but weither they are done with Tamriel (Nirn)? As gamedesigners, do they perhaps feel that they've done what they can with the material? Do they want to move on? Stop while still on top? Perhaps they don't want to repeat them selves to much? If thats even possible with The Elder Scrolls..

I really really really want another TES.. I'm hoping someone can convince me there will be another TES. Without it the gaming-world is a dull place.

While I'm writing this I am more and more convinced there will be another one. Why shouldn't they? It also seems to me that the TES series is something they really enjoy making.. Because they enjoy playing that kind of games..

I guess it's just hard to imagine what the game would be like and how it will develope from Skyrim. I mean, what will be the next great threat that can top dragons returning? I suppose everything will be easier to picture after some time has passed and the new consolles are out. Skyrim is an amazing game I think, but it's cool to imagine all the improvements they could make on the next gen. of consolles.

What do you think?

Aniratak said:

I mean, what will be the next great threat that can top dragons returning?

What do you think?

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Honey Booboo

DdraigGwyn said:

Honey Booboo

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I that it was the Red "Guards" DLC, not the Red "Necks" DLC!

Of course there will be another single play Elder Scrolls title. In terms of 'topping stories', TES I was about the Emperor's personal battlemage banishing him to Oblivion and taking his place. TES II was about the murder of the King of High Rock and ended by deciding which faction gets to destroy the world. TES III was about a demi-god bringing about the destruction of Morrowind. TES IV was about Mehrunes Dagon invading Tamriel. So, don't worry, they'll come up with some new monumental calamity for TES VI; they always do.

What's TES V about... oh wait... duh!

I'm not so hopeful. They will be busy with TESO for the rest of this year and the next. If it takes off it will take a lot of Bethesda's resources. Plus in a couple of years the gaming market could be very different than what it was like in 2011. Bethesda may very well decide that they don't want to invest in another single player TES after TESO. It's simply wait and see.

In the next one, you'll player will overthrow all the daedric princes and soul trap them into a tiny, tiny box.

Saozig said:

I'm not so hopeful. They will be busy with TESO for the rest of this year and the next. If it takes off it will take a lot of Bethesda's resources. Plus in a couple of years the gaming market could be very different than what it was like in 2011. Bethesda may very well decide that they don't want to invest in another single player TES after TESO. It's simply wait and see.

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You know TESO is being developed by another team, right? It's like how New Vegas was outsourced to Obsidian and Dishonored to Arkane while Bethesda worked on Skyrim. Trust me, the franchise is a cash cow; The Elder Scrolls series of single player games isn't going anywhere.

Aniratak said:

As gamedesigners, do they perhaps feel that they've done what they can with the material? Do they want to move on? Stop while still on top? Perhaps they don't want to repeat them selves to much?

While I'm writing this I am more and more convinced there will be another one. Why shouldn't they? It also seems to me that the TES series is something they really enjoy making.. Because they enjoy playing that kind of games..What do you think?

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Unfortunately some of the reasons you give for both making and not making a new game are entirely irrelevant. The game designers may enjoy making and playing these games, they may or may not have new ideas (they undoubtedly do) for the universe, but none of that matters. We romanticize this a lot, but in the end, Bethesda is a subsidiary of Zenimax Media, a company whose main, and only, goal is to generate profit for its owners and stakeholders. If they calculate that a new TES will be profitable, they will make one. if not, they will not. The decision makers compare two numbers that are at the bottom of a very complex spreadsheet, and that is ALL they look at. They do not care about art, or fantasy, or romanticism, any more than Dixie makes paper plates for those reasons.

There's a reason artists and poets rarely die rich.

Morgan said:

Unfortunately some of the reasons you give for both making and not making a new game are entirely irrelevant. The game designers may enjoy making and playing these games, they may or may not have new ideas (they undoubtedly do) for the universe, but none of that matters. We romanticize this a lot, but in the end, Bethesda is a subsidiary of Zenimax Media, a company whose main, and only, goal is to generate profit for its owners and stakeholders. If they calculate that a new TES will be profitable, they will make one. if not, they will not. The decision makers compare two numbers that are at the bottom of a very complex spreadsheet, and that is ALL they look at. They do not care about art, or fantasy, or romanticism, any more than Dixie makes paper plates for those reasons.

There's a reason artists and poets rarely die rich.

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You are of course right. But.. I feel that Bethesda is not all like every other game company.. They are very thorough and use alot of time en effort making the games. Much more than any other company. But doesn't Bethesda have any say in what they are developing? Or do they just get "orders". Like... "The next four years you will focus on blabla". Or do they suggest ideas and then get green light?

Aniratak said:

You are of course right. But.. I feel that Bethesda is not all like every other game company.. They are very thorough and use alot of time en effort making the games. Much more than any other company. But doesn't Bethesda have any say in what they are developing? Or do they just get "orders". Like... "The next four years you will focus on blabla". Or do they suggest ideas and then get green light?

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That's the real question I suppose. It's the quality-quantity dilemma. The game designers are fans, as you said, and want to create art. As long as they can prove that a deep, well-made product will draw more customers or go at a high enough price point, they can get the support to make it. If cut corners, shallow stories, and poor acting cost enough less though, the math might work out that the higher profit comes from the latter. Unfortunately we need look no further than TV for an analogy. A quality scripted program costs much more to make and cast than an unscripted contest program with a has-been host and a bunch of nobody contestants. You can look at any network TV schedule to see which option wins there.

Honestly I'd rather they do a complete new original IP/RP. But if they do make another TES game, I have no idea at the moment what it will be about. I do however, have a strong idea of how it will start.

You will... begin the game... as a... prisoner.

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That's the real question I suppose. It's the quality-quantity dilemma. The game designers are fans, as you said, and want to create art. As long as they can prove that a deep, well-made product will draw more customers or go at a high enough price point, they can get the support to make it. If cut corners, shallow stories, and poor acting cost enough less though, the math might work out that the higher profit comes from the latter. Unfortunately we need look no further than TV for an analogy. A quality scripted program costs much more to make and cast than an unscripted contest program with a has-been host and a bunch of nobody contestants. You can look at any network TV schedule to see which option wins there.

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I believe the fact that Bethesda doesn't cut corners is what makes them sell as much as they do.. The quality part in the games has a very good reputation. There are no other games like that at the moment. Without the quality Bethesda wouldn't distinguish that much from the other companies.. They would just blend in with (from my point of view) mediocre rpg games like fable, dragon age and so on... Games with good potential but is sort of a simplified version of the TES games. And thats what will make Behtesda survive in the future I think.. The time and the money they put in to the games pays of. If you check this link (http://www.statisticbrain.com/skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-v-statistics/) you'll see the production costs from making Skyrim is only like 13% of the total income.. So no indication that they'll stop making the game due to low sales.. The only thing I'm thinking could hinder a sixth TES is that the production team feel they are done with The Elder Scrolls. I hope they're not! I hope they never are!

I will be astonished if they don't produce another single player Elder Scrolls. Skyrim sold a lot of copies and got very favourable responses. There are always going to be people who shun multi-player in favour of single players. Perhaps not as many, but we still exist. At worst, we'll be a niche market. And if everyone likes MMOs, why do all the gaming companies keep making single player games? Why haven't they gone out of business yet?

However, I also think, based on past history, TESVI is going to be many years away, a minimum of five. Bethesda seems to like spending several years developing the Elder Scrolls. And considering how much enjoyment I get out of Skyrim, I can't really fault this. I'll just spend the next few years enjoying Skyrim. Now I'm into roleplaying, there is just so much new stuff I can get out of Skyrim, and random encounters keep things fresh.

Wildroses said:

I will be astonished if they don't produce another single player Elder Scrolls. Skyrim sold a lot of copies and got very favourable responses. There are always going to be people who shun multi-player in favour of single players. Perhaps not as many, but we still exist. At worst, we'll be a niche market. And if everyone likes MMOs, why do all the gaming companies keep making single player games? Why haven't they gone out of business yet?

However, I also think, based on past history, TESVI is going to be many years away, a minimum of five. Bethesda seems to like spending several years developing the Elder Scrolls. And considering how much enjoyment I get out of Skyrim, I can't really fault this. I'll just spend the next few years enjoying Skyrim. Now I'm into roleplaying, there is just so much new stuff I can get out of Skyrim, and random encounters keep things fresh.

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I agree with you. The MMO games are not for everyone.. It has it's own target group which is too small for every game to be online. So it's sort of a side project for TES. The main target group for TES is still single-players. Can't wait for rumors about the next one to start=) Still a few years untill that happens I guess.. But it's fun to imagine what a sixth game would look like=)

TES series has made over $300 million in profits, ,, so what do you think ?

Twiffle said:

TES series has made over $300 million in profits, ,, so what do you think ?

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Actually, according to Statisticbrain (http://www.statisticbrain.com/skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-v-statistics/) total productioncosts (including marketing costs) is about 13% of the total income, which is about 630 million dollars.. That leaves over 500 million in profit if these numbers are correct. So yes.. The odds are not against us. At the top of the page it says the source is Bethesda them selves so I guess it's reliable.

Not sure how they are going to resolve certain plot points. Who won the civil war for instance.

Bad-People said:

Not sure how they are going to resolve certain plot points. Who won the civil war for instance.

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Meh. I'm not sure that it even matters. One of three things happens. Either (1) the Nords kick the Empire out of Skyrim and then ally themselves with said Empire to bring down the Thalmor, leading to reconciliation, (2) the Empire puts down the Nord insurrection and then going on to bring down the Thalmor, or (3) Akatosh decides to pull another Warp in the West and bring down the Thalmor and restore things to the way they were prior to the Oblivion crisis. Bethesda loves grinding up it's lore.