Xbox One Permanent Magicka Penalty –– NO DISEASE

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I am playing on the XBOX One (with Mods) and I have a magicka penalty (it's red) despite having no diseases and not being a vampire. I was previously a vampire, and I did get the magicka/stamina/health penalties while I was a vampire, but I was cured of vampirism and they all went back up. However, it seems that magicka did not go all the way back to normal, as it is still in the red. I uninstalled and reinstalled all mods, tried the game without mods at all, went back to a save without the penalty and then back to the current one, visited multiple shrines to cure all diseases, and even got reinfected as a vampire and cured again. Nothing has worked and nothing shows up in my active effects.


Please, any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much!
 

Specter of Death

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What an interesting and curious predicament. Can I ask a few questions?

What mods do you all have installed? What is your mod's load order? And do you have any mods that affect enchantments or potions that you may be wearing or have taken in game?
 
What an interesting and curious predicament. Can I ask a few questions?

What mods do you all have installed? What is your mod's load order? And do you have any mods that affect enchantments or potions that you may be wearing or have taken in game?


First off, thank you so much for replying! I appreciate it greatly.


As for the mods that I have installed (and are currently installed), they are:


Skyland 1k - Landscape Texture [Enabled]
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch [Disabled]
Enhanced Blood Textures [Enabled]
Increased Population [Enabled]
Immersive Citizens [Disabled]
Magical College of Winterhold [Enabled]
Kissing - Immersive Lover's Comfort [Disabled]
Skyrim Graphic Overhaul [Enabled]
Open Cities Skyrim [Enabled]
Immersive Patrols [Disabled]
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul [Enabled]
A Quality World Map [Disabled]
Adorable Females [Enabled]
Amazing Follower Tweaks [Enabled]
Surreal Lighting [Enabled]
Medieval Whiterun Overhaul [Disabled]
Wabbajack - The Spell [Disabled]
Fire HD [Enabled]
Lampposts of Skyrim [Enabled]
Climates of Tamriel [Enabled]
CleanDisplayCases [Enabled]
Realistic Conversations [Enabled]
Realistic Water Two [Enabled]
Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers [Enabled]
Rich Merchants of Skyrim [Disabled]
Lush Overhaul [Enabled]
Hearthfire Display Case Fix [Enabled]
50 Pct More Perk Points [Enabled]
Better Leveling [Enabled]
 
What an interesting and curious predicament. Can I ask a few questions?

What mods do you all have installed? What is your mod's load order? And do you have any mods that affect enchantments or potions that you may be wearing or have taken in game?

Another thing that may be of use — my magicka penalty has set me down to 949, and odd number. I don’t know what penalties don’t work in increments of 10?
 

Specter of Death

Omnipresent Moderator
Staff member
Okay, I'm going to give you an option to lay out your load order in a way that might help some things, it's how I've had to do it a couple times and it fixes most of the issues. Sometimes the way you order the mods effects things.

Put all your World mods at the top of the list. Anything that overhauls Skyrim's appearance and/nature and whatnot. So you'd have texture mods, water/weather mods, foliage mods, etc. Then put any mods that modify the ai of the npc's and creatures, so things like Immersive Citizens and Rich Merchants. Then Character edits and additions, like perk overhauls or leveling changes. (These mods will be the source of your peculiar magicka penalty at 949.) Then item mods, followed by mission mods, and miscellaneous things.

I'm not sure if this actually helps in any way, I just know that it has helped me in the past. With this all in mind, what I can tell you is that you just gotta play with the mods you have installed. If you have installed new mods recently, try disabling them and loading the game and see what changes. You'll eventually find the culprit (hopefully anyway). I'd also say search for things that could be related specifically to your problem issues. So right now I can say that with your issues, I'd look into investigating these mods:
- Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers - straight up delete this mod. It has always given me problems no matter where I put it in my load order, so I'd just opt with looking up a map for them.
- 50 Pct More Perk Points - effects character stats, so worth checking out.
- Better Leveling - Effects something within the character stats, so it's worth a look.

Hope this helps and makes sense :D
 
Okay, I'm going to give you an option to lay out your load order in a way that might help some things, it's how I've had to do it a couple times and it fixes most of the issues. Sometimes the way you order the mods effects things.

Put all your World mods at the top of the list. Anything that overhauls Skyrim's appearance and/nature and whatnot. So you'd have texture mods, water/weather mods, foliage mods, etc. Then put any mods that modify the ai of the npc's and creatures, so things like Immersive Citizens and Rich Merchants. Then Character edits and additions, like perk overhauls or leveling changes. (These mods will be the source of your peculiar magicka penalty at 949.) Then item mods, followed by mission mods, and miscellaneous things.

I'm not sure if this actually helps in any way, I just know that it has helped me in the past. With this all in mind, what I can tell you is that you just gotta play with the mods you have installed. If you have installed new mods recently, try disabling them and loading the game and see what changes. You'll eventually find the culprit (hopefully anyway). I'd also say search for things that could be related specifically to your problem issues. So right now I can say that with your issues, I'd look into investigating these mods:
- Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers - straight up delete this mod. It has always given me problems no matter where I put it in my load order, so I'd just opt with looking up a map for them.
- 50 Pct More Perk Points - effects character stats, so worth checking out.
- Better Leveling - Effects something within the character stats, so it's worth a look.

Hope this helps and makes sense :D

First of all, thank you for the tips!

Second, I redid my load order in the manner you suggested, and I also disabled the mods you thought to particularly problematic, but the effects are still there. I've since leveled up twice, so my magicka went from 949 to 969, but obviously the penalty is still there.


I now have a theory that maybe my game bugged at some point when I became a vampire? Because I know that I got to Stage 4 Sun Damage but then I got Falion's cure. The last save I have before I became a vampire is from a quite a while ago (Level 87, I am now Level 131), but it does not have the magicka penalty. Do you think that could be the case?
 

Specter of Death

Omnipresent Moderator
Staff member
No problem friend! Always happy to help when I can :D

As for your theory on the problem's origin, I think it definitely could be a possibility, though I am not sure I've ever heard anything like that. I'm gonna do some digging into bugs and stuff and see if I can find something that has something to do with that anywhere in the game. For now I'd say that's the most likely source. Unless in any of your mods there are specific things being changed, or there are bugs coming from the mods etc. That's easy to look into as well, so I may do that too.
 
No problem friend! Always happy to help when I can :D

As for your theory on the problem's origin, I think it definitely could be a possibility, though I am not sure I've ever heard anything like that. I'm gonna do some digging into bugs and stuff and see if I can find something that has something to do with that anywhere in the game. For now I'd say that's the most likely source. Unless in any of your mods there are specific things being changed, or there are bugs coming from the mods etc. That's easy to look into as well, so I may do that too.

Thank you so much, I appreciate the effort and diligence you’ve put into helping me! I’ll keep looking into the mods as well and see what I can find.
 

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