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Nocte Aeterna

Sir Not-Appearing-in-This-Film
REBEL! REBEL!!

I...... seeeeee....

YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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Dabs confirmed for Sauron
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
Was he really a cannibal? Has he got human flesh in his inventory or what do you base that on?
Part of the reward he gives you for telling him about his sister (whether you lie or not) is a human heart. Now, he's piss poor, he doesn't have the money to go to an alchemist's shop and buy such a thing for a simple reward, so he had to have gotten it from somewhere. Perhaps he went up the mountain a bit and took the heart from one of the hunters who fell to the bear, but that's a lot of risk for a meager reward. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure he's a cannibal.

The reward is a random mix of rare alchemy ingredients. If you want you can quicksave before giving him the necklace and hold out for a daedra heart. It's one of the easiest ways to get one early-game.
 

Wauten Dayhil

Demon Hunter and Wordplay Extraordinaire
The reward is a random mix of rare alchemy ingredients. If you want you can quicksave before giving him the necklace and hold out for a daedra heart. It's one of the easiest ways to get one early-game.
I've never gotten a Daedra Heart in all my playthroughs. It's always a Human heart, Human Flesh, a Nightshade and a Deathbell.
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
The reward is a random mix of rare alchemy ingredients. If you want you can quicksave before giving him the necklace and hold out for a daedra heart. It's one of the easiest ways to get one early-game.
I've never gotten a Daedra Heart in all my playthroughs. It's always a Human heart, Human Flesh, a Nightshade and a Deathbell.

I get something different every time, always from the rare ingredient list. Sometimes I get the daedra heart right off, sometimes I have to reload thirty times. But it'll eventually come up.
 

hadji-el-halef

New Member
I still can't post a direct link to my survey.
If anyone could like my posts, I could try and put a direct link on this page.
But just so you won't have to go to the beginning of the thread, heres the link again
surveymonkey.c(delete the part within the brackets)om/r/LK6XTXN
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
I still can't post a direct link to my survey.
If anyone could like my posts, I could try and put a direct link on this page.
But just so you won't have to go to the beginning of the thread, heres the link again
surveymonkey.c(delete the part within the brackets)om/r/LK6XTXN


The "Like" button is gone from the webpage. I still see some people getting posts "liked" but it must be only available on some interfaces. Try clicking "report" on your own post and explain the situation in the notes. If they took the button away (for most people) but still require it for new members to gain full posting privileges, there must be an oversight that should be corrected by the admins.
 

Wauten Dayhil

Demon Hunter and Wordplay Extraordinaire
The "Like" button is gone from the webpage. I still see some people getting posts "liked" but it must be only available on some interfaces. Try clicking "report" on your own post and explain the situation in the notes. If they took the button away (for most people) but still require it for new members to gain full posting privileges, there must be an oversight that should be corrected by the admins.
You can still hit the "Like" button through Tapatalk.
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
The "Like" button is gone from the webpage. I still see some people getting posts "liked" but it must be only available on some interfaces. Try clicking "report" on your own post and explain the situation in the notes. If they took the button away (for most people) but still require it for new members to gain full posting privileges, there must be an oversight that should be corrected by the admins.
You can still hit the "Like" button through Tapatalk.

I mentioned that it's still available on some interfaces. However, to tie posting privileges to a function that is only available to a random subset of site users is ludicrous.
 

Wauten Dayhil

Demon Hunter and Wordplay Extraordinaire
I mentioned that it's still available on some interfaces. However, to tie posting privileges to a function that is only available to a random subset of site users is ludicrous.
Oh, I knew what you meant by other interfaces. I was just giving an example, in case anyone wanted to know.

But yeah, that's a pretty weird deal going on.
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
I mentioned that it's still available on some interfaces. However, to tie posting privileges to a function that is only available to a random subset of site users is ludicrous.
Oh, I knew what you meant by other interfaces. I was just giving an example, in case anyone wanted to know.

But yeah, that's a pretty weird deal going on.

I probably should have done the legwork to figure out exactly WHAT interfaces still have it. Just lazy this morning I guess :sleepyface:
 
What really broke me was this dialogue:

"With father I said goodbye... with mother I said goodbye. Reyda leaves and Narfi can't say goodbye. Makes Narfi very, very sad. Narfi needs Reyda to say goodbye."

In my first couple of playthroughs, I also felt the same about poor Narfi; feeling sad looking at his 'condition'. Until I noticed some strange things.

1. After doing the quest to find Reyda (her skeleton, anyway) for him, he rewards you with a chunk of human flesh and a human heart. Why would an 'emaciated' beggar have something that is almost universally abhorred? Were they cannibals?

2. My why would Narfi have an iron dagger on him? Is it to protect himself from bandits that would come to rob him of... nothing? Or is it because he needs the dagger to carve up the flesh of his victims before consuming them? :vomit:

The more I thought about it, the more my pity turned into revulsion. Suddenly, that quote about his mother and father became something entirely different. What if the 'goodbye' to his parents was not one of bereavement, but a farewell before he and his sister plunged the knife into their chests, before proceeding to consume them? What if the mental instability he was suffering from did not stem from the death of his parents, but from the childhood trauma of him being exposed to acts of human consumption by the members of his family? What if Reyda's death was not an accident, but an act of vengeance by a loved one of a victim, who then proceeded to post a contract on the beggar to exact revenge for what he did to their loved one? After all, who kills a beggar, if not for revenge?

Armed with these thoughts, in my next playthrough, I killed Narfi without sparing a single thought of pity for him. At all.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
What really broke me was this dialogue:

"With father I said goodbye... with mother I said goodbye. Reyda leaves and Narfi can't say goodbye. Makes Narfi very, very sad. Narfi needs Reyda to say goodbye."

In my first couple of playthroughs, I also felt the same about poor Narfi; feeling sad looking at his 'condition'. Until I noticed some strange things.

1. After doing the quest to find Reyda (her skeleton, anyway) for him, he rewards you with a chunk of human flesh and a human heart. Why would an 'emaciated' beggar have something that is almost universally abhorred? Were they cannibals?

2. My why would Narfi have an iron dagger on him? Is it to protect himself from bandits that would come to rob him of... nothing? Or is it because he needs the dagger to carve up the flesh of his victims before consuming them? :vomit:

The more I thought about it, the more my pity turned into revulsion. Suddenly, that quote about his mother and father became something entirely different. What if the 'goodbye' to his parents was not one of bereavement, but a farewell before he and his sister plunged the knife into their chests, before proceeding to consume them? What if the mental instability he was suffering from did not stem from the death of his parents, but from the childhood trauma of him being exposed to acts of human consumption by the members of his family? What if Reyda's death was not an accident, but an act of vengeance by a loved one of a victim, who then proceeded to post a contract on the beggar to exact revenge for what he did to their loved one? After all, who kills a beggar, if not for revenge?

Armed with these thoughts, in my next playthrough, I killed Narfi without sparing a single thought of pity for him. At all.
Absolutely fascinating. After thousands of hours and doing the Narfi quests many times, this is a completely new take on this! Thank you!

I wonder if Eola knows about him.
 

Dabiene Caristiana

Your friendly neighborhood weirdo
Dang, never noticed that.

If it's true, then the only pity I now feel for him is his serious mental illness turning him into a sociopath.
 

Madrar

The Shadow in the Dark.
I just downloaded the Apocalypse spells mod...so I use him as a test subject.
 
Thank you guys for your support for my pet theory about the circumstances surrounding the beggar Narfi!:)

Maybe it's time for me to write down a short little fanfic about the whole thing, starting at the onset of his mental problems to his eventual death at the hands of none other than the Dovahkiin! :cool:
 

hadji-el-halef

New Member
Thanks to all you dedicated people for all the help. I'm just about to finish my essay.
If you're interested, here are the survey results
 

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Pete

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My vampire characters always protect Narfi. He's 'obviously' a survivor of a major battle some time ago with head trauma. Easy to feed on.

I like to leave gifts for him. He's seems like the archetype henchmen character for Dracula.
 

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