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Jake Johnson

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I would like ideas for what my current Dovahkiin, a male Orc named The Wasp (he is a heavy-armored master of stealth who relies on his twin daggers and his bow), should do now.

He's currently level 37, with the following skills:

Smithing 65 (Steel, Dwarven, Orcish)
Heavy Armor 76 (Juggernaut 1 and 2, Fists of Steel, Cushioned, Conditioning, Well Fitted, Tower of Strength, Matching Set)
One-Handed 71 (Armsman 1, 2, and 3, Dual Flurry 1 and 2)
Archery 54 (Overdraw 1)
Sneak 100 (I'm proud of that) (Stealth 1, 2, 3, and 4, Backstab, Muffled Movement, Light Foot, Silent Roll) and no, I'm not making it Legendary
Lockpicking 69 (Novice Locks)
Pickpocket 43 (Light Fingers 1, Night Thief)
Speech 44 (Haggling 1, Bribery)
Alchemy 17 (Alchemist 1)
Illusion 16 (Novice Illusion)
Destruction 38 (Novice, Apprentice)
Restoration 35 (Novice, Recovery 1)

He's also accomplished the following:

Harbinger of the Companions
Guild Master of the Thieves' Guild (completed the quest-line)
Listener of the Dark Brotherhood (completed the quest-line)

Holder of the Razor of Mehrunes Dagon (finished Pieces of the Past, kept the Razor)
Holder of the Masque of Clavicus Vile (I don't wear it any more - my Flawless Orcish Helmet has a higher armor rating)

Slayer of Harkon (completed the Dawnguard quest-line)

As I said in my topic title, what should I do now, between all these accomplishments and releasing the dragons?
 

Papoy

DON'T EXPECT SPOILER WARNINGS FROM ME
Im quessing that you are playing a spellsword then. Stealthy, smithingly, one-handedly, magicly... oh my..
-Try putting more perks in Jaggernaut, you are actualy kinda soft with it (depends on diffic ofc). Get all perks in HA!!

-If you are looking to make somethin legendary, Illusion is best.

-I recommend saving up soul games and well-enchanted items. Buy a house and keep them there. Cause, at some point, you will move to enchaning.

-Hunting shouts is never a bad thing. It can keep you busy for LONG time. For your sneaky build: Aura whisper (1 word would suffice), slow-time (cuz there is no build that wont find this useful), FUS-RO-DAH, wind fury (speeds up attacking with non-enchated weapons, with all 3 words, speed is insane, fast as you can click (allmost)).

-Wait... is this realy ok? ... You completed Dawnguard without slaying Alduin first!? As a dragonborn, you dissapoint me! jk, allmost every1 does that.

-Main questline is most fun IMO, it may be too early for you now tho... Get nice folower that lvls up with you at least to lvl 50. Best option for sneaky types is Cicero (if youve let him live) or DB recruits, or Serana,... or whoever sneaky DG offers.

-As for sneak... go to top of the tree, take that last perk. There are some places where u cant avoid open combat, and that perk is the solutions for sneaky ones.

-What standing stone are u using atm?

Much as I can say for now.
 

The Honorable Gidian Diva of Sass

Sahrot Vahlok Spaan. Bahnahgaar. Minion #88!
Staff member
Im quessing that you are playing a spellsword then. Stealthy, smithingly, one-handedly, magicly... oh my..
-Try putting more perks in Jaggernaut, you are actualy kinda soft with it (depends on diffic ofc). Get all perks in HA!!

-If you are looking to make somethin legendary, Illusion is best.

-I recommend saving up soul games and well-enchanted items. Buy a house and keep them there. Cause, at some point, you will move to enchaning.

-Hunting shouts is never a bad thing. It can keep you busy for LONG time. For your sneaky build: Aura whisper (1 word would suffice), slow-time (cuz there is no build that wont find this useful), FUS-RO-DAH, wind fury (speeds up attacking with non-enchated weapons, with all 3 words, speed is insane, fast as you can click (allmost)).

-Wait... is this realy ok? ... You completed Dawnguard without slaying Alduin first!? As a dragonborn, you dissapoint me! jk, allmost every1 does that.

-Main questline is most fun IMO, it may be too early for you now tho... Get nice folower that lvls up with you at least to lvl 50. Best option for sneaky types is Cicero (if youve let him live) or DB recruits, or Serana,... or whoever sneaky DG offers.

-As for sneak... go to top of the tree, take that last perk. There are some places where u cant avoid open combat, and that perk is the solutions for sneaky ones.

-What standing stone are u using atm?

Much as I can say for now.
The stealth tree is almost completely superfluous. With a little more effort you can accomplish most of the same thing with the illusion tree (with 100% muffle). Just cast invisibility and move out of the way ASAP (NPCs will lose track of you if you have complete muffle, but will still move towards and attack the last position they spotted you at). You can also use the stealth roll without the perk, by tapping the sprint button and sheathing/unsheathing your weapon at the same time (doesn't work if spells are equipped).
 

Papoy

DON'T EXPECT SPOILER WARNINGS FROM ME
New info.
For HA stealth, there is good, very good item. Ebony mail. Get you info about it on skyrim wikia, it fits you perfectly!
The stealth tree is almost completely superfluous. With a little more effort you can accomplish most of the same thing with the illusion tree (with 100% muffle). Just cast invisibility and move out of the way ASAP (NPCs will lose track of you if you have complete muffle, but will still move towards and attack the last position they spotted you at). You can also use the stealth roll without the perk, by tapping the sprint button and sheathing/unsheathing your weapon at the same time (doesn't work if spells are equipped).

And yes, I agree. But his build is not so much mage oriented. As far as I can see based on his char lvl and mage trees level, my quess is that he was using it situationaly, not exacly focusing it. Though, going for illusion tree cant be bad at all. It cant be bad no matter what you are playing.
 

The Honorable Gidian Diva of Sass

Sahrot Vahlok Spaan. Bahnahgaar. Minion #88!
Staff member
New info.
For HA stealth, there is good, very good item. Ebony mail. Get you info about it on skyrim wikia, it fits you perfectly!


And yes, I agree. But his build is not so much mage oriented. As far as I can see based on his char lvl and mage trees level, my quess is that he was using it situationaly, not exacly focusing it. Though, going for illusion tree cant be bad at all. It cant be bad no matter what you are playing.
Illusion is also the easiest skill in the game to power level. The spells are so spammable and you don't even have to be in combat to get xp from them xD
 

Nocte Aeterna

Sir Not-Appearing-in-This-Film
Illusion is also the most exciting perk tree in the history ever. You can go poof! You can make enemies turn on each other! It's so amazing.
 

Sah

Well-Known Member
this ones question is how do you cope with magic attacks, and what level are you play with
impact of magic legendary difficulty is deadly with out the assistance from enchanting and the alliteration tree...these are two skill tree you have not put on your list?
PS.........fantastic stats BTW...........and a nice build.........one thing level 37 and sneak at 100...........mind shearing?
 

Pebbles

New Member
If you're ambitious in becoming as powerful as possible, I have a few tips as far as skills. First off, get that enchanting skill to 100 as soon as possible with all relevant perks, as well as alchemy. Enchanting armor at max skill with fortify alchemy buffs will in turn allow you to create the most powerful fortify enchantment potions. This is a loop you can repeat about 3 times to this final effect:

4x armor pieces with 33% increased alchemy = 132% increased alchemy ->

create potions of 35% fortify enchantment ->

create the most powerful enchantments possible ->

using these methods, you can then create the maximal potion of fortify smithing: 139%, as well as maximal armor enchantments adding up to another 132%, with a combined power of 271% increased smithing, which multiplies above legendary. Even with an average smithing skill and no perks in it, you can immediately make legendary improvements to weapons/armor.

You can also increase your sneak, as another example, to almost +60% per item enchantment, something you certainly might like.

This is just something that kept me busy while doing other things; I'm also a bit of a perfectionist. Apologize if I made any errors, but this is my understanding of the mechanic.
 

Kohlar the Unkilled

Time for some ale
I think you should go to Forelhost, if you've not done so. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere but I could've missed it.

Bring plenty of ale. :beermug:
 
Collect alll the Daedric artifacts
Collect all the Dragonpriesrt masks
Collect the Stones of Barenziah
Learn all the Shouts

Should keep you occupied for a while.
 
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Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I am impressed that you did all of that by level 37.

Me, by level 37, I probably haven't even started any of the questlines yet and have just been exploring.

I probably won't even get to a questline until well over level 60.
 

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