Killing Harkon

Scenedesmus · Nov 3, 2015

My current character will not use ranged weapons, magic, shouts or followers since these impugn his belief that one-on-one melee is the only honorable way of fighting. Given this, what advice do forum members have for killing Harkon?

Daelon DuLac · Nov 3, 2015

Good luck?

Actually, it had better be an extremely high damage weapon with health, stamina and magicka drain.

If you're not even going to use the bow, then you're in for it.

Harkon's spells are devastating and he heals completely in his bubble, not to mention that he raises the dead, summons gargoyles and is almost impossible to hit melee-wise in Vampire Lord form.

My suggestion, use Serana. When my latest Orc hammer wielder went to face him, I just hit him right away with my mightly blow as he began to talk to his daughter. It took him 2/3 or the way out and I was able to get another in before he could really react.

The only real problem I see with your plan is disrupting his healing bubble and keeping his summons' at bay.

I wonder if Dawnbreaker will work on him?

Kohlar the Unkilled · Nov 3, 2015

I actually prefer this way of taking him out. Though I've always had a follower, I've dealt mainly melee damage against him in most of my playthroughs. You'll have to deal with a couple of healing cycles, but you'll get him. :beermug:

In fact, doesn't Serana have to be present for this battle?

Daelon DuLac · Nov 3, 2015

Kohlar the Unkilled said:
I actually prefer this way of taking him out. Though I've always had a follower, I've dealt mainly melee damage against him in most of my playthroughs. You'll have to deal with a couple of healing cycles, but you'll get him.

In fact, doesn't Serana have to be present for this battle?

Yes she does. She's a good distraction too.

lizardisok · Nov 3, 2015

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Scenedesmus · Nov 3, 2015

Kohlar the Unkilled said:
I actually prefer this way of taking him out. Though I've always had a follower, I've dealt mainly melee damage against him in most of my playthroughs. You'll have to deal with a couple of healing cycles, but you'll get him.

In fact, doesn't Serana have to be present for this battle?

Will she use the bow?

Daelon DuLac · Nov 3, 2015

Scenedesmus said:
Will she use the bow?

Not that I know of she's strictly mage.

Harkin · Nov 3, 2015

You can make her use bow by giving her one like all followers, they use it if they are low on magicka or the bows dps is higher than their weapon.

Serana resorts to her long range Magick like Lighting bolt and Ice, which are powerful anyway, though I gave her a Nordic bow, she got it out a few little times.

shadowkitty · Nov 4, 2015

If your character believes only in using melee type weapons, then why did he haul his ass through the Forgotten Vale to get the Bow in the first place? I know he HAS to do it, for the game's sake of progressing, but how would you factor that in to your RP?
Interested in your reasoning.

I have had a lot of experience with Serana, and she will very rarely use a ranged weapon, if at all. She will mainly use magic and occasionally a one handed weapon. Harkon flits all over that room, so if you want to take him out with a melee style then you are in for a long fight. You should probably try to centre yourself around the fountain where he regenerates. You wont catch him otherwise.

Scenedesmus · Nov 4, 2015

shadowkitty said:
If your character believes only in using melee type weapons, then why did he haul his ass through the Forgotten Vale to get the Bow in the first place? I know he HAS to do it, for the game's sake of progressing, but how would you factor that in to your RP?
Interested in your reasoning.

Who knows! I try to reason with him, but he is pigheaded and not too bright. Having decided that vampires are incompatible with his sense of honor, he is compelled to eliminate Harkon no matter what the cost. So, if that means having to go places and do things that make no sense, so be it.

Writes-Many-Posts · Nov 4, 2015

Do enchantments count as magic for him? I mean... usually that's my go to when something gives me trouble.
Also, his stance on potions? These two offer a lot (A LOT) of hidden power.

Dawnbreaker is also a thing, but I don't think I have ever lived through a battle with Harkon without any ranged attacks. Those blinks are too much of a pain to go after.

Nocte Aeterna · Nov 4, 2015

I never found Harkon too aggravating. But he's pretty damn tanky, considering he's a vampire lord with a strong blood drain spell at his disposal.

If anything, you should at least invest in defensive and healing potions.

lucifer101 · Nov 4, 2015

My character who's main combat skill was two-handed had a little trouble fighting Harkon. You're going to be chasing him around a lot, so I'd recommend gearing up on stamina potions. My last resort was using Auriel's Bow even though I'm too awkward with archery on the PC. Just prepare for when he regains his health again if you don't use Auriel's Bow because that's what really caught me off guard the first time I fought him.

Chadonraz · Nov 5, 2015

Scenedesmus said:
Will she use the bow?

If by "the bow" you mean Auriel's Bow, the answer is no. The bow is a quest item until you complete "Kindred Judgment", and the only NPC you can give it to before that is Harkon.

Onyx Black · Nov 7, 2015

Scenedesmus said:
My current character will not use ranged weapons, magic, shouts or followers since these impugn his belief that one-on-one melee is the only honorable way of fighting. Given this, what advice do forum members have for killing Harkon?

Get a Battleaxe, kill. Kill. Kill.

Onyx Black · Nov 7, 2015

Also I used he bow entirely on my last playthrough - it was quick, and I only used 22 of 723 sunhallowed arrows.
As with everything, use health and stamina potions only.
Because you won't use magic. And you may need to run around.

Scenedesmus · Nov 8, 2015

Well, I had a long talk with Cirroc and we have come to a compromise. He still won't shoot anyone with Auriel's bow, but he will shoot at the Blood Altar while Harkon is regenerating. Since he sees using that kind of magic as dishonorable I persuaded him tha preventing Harkon from benifitting was really the moral choice. Of course, since he has never fired any bow, I am not sure how effective he will be.

Onyx Black · Nov 8, 2015

Indeed - honestly the bow and sunhallowed arrows were designed to hit that area on the alter, hence why it's the second to last mission in the main DG DLC.

On another note I found using shock spells useful when against some of Harkons magic attacks, especially chain lightning, works wonders against undead wizards.

Wildroses · Nov 8, 2015

I've played characters who never use bows but had no trouble using Auriel's Bow just to break Harkon's blood bubble. You aren't trying to damage him using the bow (I never did) just stop him regenerating.

I did accidentally give him the bow but luckily the character was level 61 with Dawnbreaker and fully perked one-handed, so the only challenge was not dying of boredom when Harkon scampered into his bubble. It was Serana's fault. I took the option: "I would never use Serana like that. She's too important to me" and then was so impressed that she chose that exact moment to stop looking at her Father and turn to look at me I didn't pay attention to the next conversation option.

Dabiene Caristiana · Nov 8, 2015

All my characters easily beat him as I recall. But not quickly per say. Just that I didn't use many if any healing during the fight. Then again my characters with medium to high level.

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