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jarif

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Can't remember if this applies to Console players because I am playing with Skyre which has the unlevelled dungeons module.

So have you ever Yolo'd through a dungeon knowing everyone is beyond your level? Once, my character took a job because the payment was high, he didn't expect Drauger Overlords everywhere and he could of ran away and rejecting the job afterwards but the things he would do for money! So he ran through his life and ignoring every little thing for money while a horde of draugr were running through him while avoiding all kiiinds of traps.
 

Chadonraz

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Not exactly, but I've done high-level dungeons at low levels. Here are two examples:

1. An alternate start mod put me right outside Folgunthur, so I decided to explore it. All the Draugr were at least Restless, and the "mini boss" in the room with the puzzle and trap door was a Deathlord. I ended up simply trapping him in one of the side rooms. :cool:

The boss fight took like half an hour. I shot one arrow, and then hid in a corner until the Draugr stopped searching. A few dozen times.
With SkyRe the "enemies are searching for you" part of course took a lot longer than it would have in the vanilla game.

2. I decided to try getting "Night Falls on Sentinel" for Rustleif at level belowten - from Swindler's Den (I knew there was at least one easily acquirable copy available, but my character didn't). Half of the bandits inside were Marauders, and with SkyRe's higher damage they were extremely dangerous.


To quote Burnout 3 tutorials: Risk = Reward. Clear a high-level dungeon at a low level, and you'll most likely get some sweet loot. :D
 

Perkless in Skyrim

Bad to the Dragonbone.
I'm not on PC but I've done something similar by not leveling. I have had a few characters that remained at level 1 throughout their career.

Volskygge gave me a surprise at the end. I had been adventuring for quite a while and my skills were on par with someone around level 50 (I leveled up once to find out :D ). I was accustomed to finding crappy loot and getting excited at finds containing dwarven weapons and armor, or items with a "major" enchantment. Most enemies were at the lower end of the spectrum so imagine my surprise to see a full blown Deathlord wielding an Ebony blade at the end. He chased me around for a good 20 minutes while I slowly whittled him down with Fire Breath and Firebolts. That was probably the best fight that character ever had and his weapon was the crown jewel of all the treasures I had encountered thus far.
 

Wildroses

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Yeah, all the time, especially when I was going through my phase of playing on Master. I'd call my mindset not: "You only live once!" and more: "You live as many times as you like in Skyrim and I'm way too stubborn to give up on this." Sheer refusal to back away from a challenge.

One time I spent forty minutes trying to clear Moss Mother Cavern on level three with one health potion. Not even quicksave scumming every five seconds and using a level up at a strategic point of low health made it easy. I was so damn proud when the bear and all three spriggans were dead though.

I also find jumping off high places really effective. I can clear Forsaken Crypt when I'm too low level to take on Curamil and his buddies by running halfway through the dungeon with them chasing me to the area with a bridge and jumping off it. It doesn't hurt, and I get a few minutes to heal (either with restoration or natural regeneration) as they run the long way around to reach me, after which I would take one shot before ducking back and forcing them to chase me all the way back to that bridge so I can jump off it again.

I did something similar in Bloodlet Throne with a gargoyle I wasn't expecting. It proved those wings are strictly ornamental. There is this enormous wooden ramp it takes the gargoyle about 30 seconds to run up and down and 2 seconds for me to jump off. I did this for about fifteen minutes, no joke, and the gargoyle never thought of jumping off after me, which would really have screwed me over as I'd have had more trouble regenerating health. Yes, waiting for your health to regenerate naturally takes a while in combat, which is why I was running up and jumping off the ramp for an entire fifteen minutes.
 

ColleenG

When in doubt, follow the fox.
OK wait, that's how I play Skyrim all the time. I have ptsd from many of those dungeons. Hell, I've run screaming from chaurus reapers more often than I care to remember.
 

tx12001

I will not tolerate failure...
No enemy is beyond my character's level however when I did play skyrim on console I did encounter a fair few dungeons that I went right into at level 1 or 2 and walked out with ebony weapons after killing ebony weapon wielding dragur deathlords it was that dragon priest dungeon where a ghost is standing there when you walk in
 

Panda Rawrlord

Herald of Panda-Monium
I play on console but I usually "Yolo it" when I go through Blackreach. Beautiful place, but I HATE chaurus! I always B-line down the short path, swinging my sword wildly.
 

Chadonraz

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My strategy in Blackreach usually involves spamming Become Ethereal and keeping the sprint button pressed down. I head straight for the Tower of Mzark (only ever go down there to get the Scroll), ignoring all the Falmer, Chaurus and possible Centurions.

I've done the Nirnroot quest a grand total of two times, and triggered the dragon twice as well.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I NEVER RUN! I'd rather die... over and over and over and over... The worst for me was the Spriggan Matron in the Ancestors Glen entrance at level 5. It took me almost an hour to get her down. I kept having to run back outside, heal and then run back in. Sheesh.

I always try to do Bloodlet throne as a autonimous adventure around level 5-7 (I always am sneaking). I just enjoy the challenge and can usually get some Vampire Armor of Destruction and some good stuff to use in enchanting really early on. It ain't easy (especially with the ramps and all, although there aren't always gargoyles at such a low level, but sometimes (or maybe I'm just sneaking past 'em and they don't notice me).
 

shadowkitty

Mistress of Shadows
My strategy in Blackreach usually involves spamming Become Ethereal and keeping the sprint button pressed down. I head straight for the Tower of Mzark (only ever go down there to get the Scroll), ignoring all the Falmer, Chaurus and possible Centurions.

I've done the Nirnroot quest a grand total of two times, and triggered the dragon twice as well.

Ah yes I've done the dragon twice, and both times it landed down on the road below and just sat there while I peppered it with arrows. I almost felt bad for killing it.
 

Chadonraz

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Just did Angarvunde at level 31. The place was full of Scourges, Deathlords and other lords - including an Overlord that was DDO strength.
When the first three Draugr were two Scourges and a Deathlord, I knew the place was above my level. However, I didn't want to risk breaking the little quest by leaving in the middle of it. I also hate giving up.

It wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be; my Marksmanship is pretty heavily perked, and even my shortbow does 100+ damage.

I really, really love the bow stagger feature of SkyRe's combat module. Definitely helps a ton when trying to keep enemies at bay!
 

jarif

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I NEVER RUN! I'd rather die... over and over and over and over... The worst for me was the Spriggan Matron in the Ancestors Glen entrance at level 5. It took me almost an hour to get her down. I kept having to run back outside, heal and then run back in. Sheesh.

I always try to do Bloodlet throne as a autonimous adventure around level 5-7 (I always am sneaking). I just enjoy the challenge and can usually get some Vampire Armor of Destruction and some good stuff to use in enchanting really early on. It ain't easy (especially with the ramps and all, although there aren't always gargoyles at such a low level, but sometimes (or maybe I'm just sneaking past 'em and they don't notice me).

Have you ever considered that is immersion breaking? Haven't you considered character physiology into roleplay? My character is absolutely afraid of everything in Skyrim and terrified of Dragons, the only real he kills for them is purely because he is the Dragonborn and he would feel pressured if someone was watching; its like a sense he has to do it in his mind but not because he wants to do it. Other than that, he would simply run away and hide in a corner. You can't just have that mentality 'Oh hey! I'm going to kill you and not run away' unless your character is physiology damaged or depending on your roleplay...
 

Mi-Ilu Yahaz

Active Member
YES! And I died.... A LOT. Then I played Dark Souls.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I NEVER RUN! I'd rather die... over and over and over and over... The worst for me was the Spriggan Matron in the Ancestors Glen entrance at level 5. It took me almost an hour to get her down. I kept having to run back outside, heal and then run back in. Sheesh.

I always try to do Bloodlet throne as a autonimous adventure around level 5-7 (I always am sneaking). I just enjoy the challenge and can usually get some Vampire Armor of Destruction and some good stuff to use in enchanting really early on. It ain't easy (especially with the ramps and all, although there aren't always gargoyles at such a low level, but sometimes (or maybe I'm just sneaking past 'em and they don't notice me).

Have you ever considered that is immersion breaking? Haven't you considered character physiology into roleplay? My character is absolutely afraid of everything in Skyrim and terrified of Dragons, the only real he kills for them is purely because he is the Dragonborn and he would feel pressured if someone was watching; its like a sense he has to do it in his mind but not because he wants to do it. Other than that, he would simply run away and hide in a corner. You can't just have that mentality 'Oh hey! I'm going to kill you and not run away' unless your character is physiology damaged or depending on your roleplay...
For me, not really. My characters are rather reflective of myself as a person. I do not run away. It's just the way I am as a person and I would find it very difficult to act the coward and run away. I will admit that I am not stupid in the RP. If a battle is going poorly, I will seek cover and hide for a moment (and I have become rather good at it). My mages/spellswords may do this more often, but my warriors almost never hide. They will fight until the bitter end. Frankly, almost nothing in SR scares my characters. My backstories almost always include a facet of being from SR in the first place (I play Nords 99% of the time) and usually from out of the way places where dealing with wolves, trolls, bears, etc... is simply a way of life. Dragons are just another facet of everything. None of my characters really want to kill dragons and I often just leave them be. They don't make me a target for long as something always distracts them. Even the ones at the word walls can be dealt with this way. I simply distract them with an antronach, take the word and treasure and saunter away. Once I have Kyne's peace and calm or pacify, I often do not even bother with the animals either. After all, why kill the critters when there are so many people to take my homicidal tendancies out on?
 

jarif

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I NEVER RUN! I'd rather die... over and over and over and over... The worst for me was the Spriggan Matron in the Ancestors Glen entrance at level 5. It took me almost an hour to get her down. I kept having to run back outside, heal and then run back in. Sheesh.

I always try to do Bloodlet throne as a autonimous adventure around level 5-7 (I always am sneaking). I just enjoy the challenge and can usually get some Vampire Armor of Destruction and some good stuff to use in enchanting really early on. It ain't easy (especially with the ramps and all, although there aren't always gargoyles at such a low level, but sometimes (or maybe I'm just sneaking past 'em and they don't notice me).

Have you ever considered that is immersion breaking? Haven't you considered character physiology into roleplay? My character is absolutely afraid of everything in Skyrim and terrified of Dragons, the only real he kills for them is purely because he is the Dragonborn and he would feel pressured if someone was watching; its like a sense he has to do it in his mind but not because he wants to do it. Other than that, he would simply run away and hide in a corner. You can't just have that mentality 'Oh hey! I'm going to kill you and not run away' unless your character is physiology damaged or depending on your roleplay...
For me, not really. My characters are rather reflective of myself as a person. I do not run away. It's just the way I am as a person and I would find it very difficult to act the coward and run away. I will admit that I am not stupid in the RP. If a battle is going poorly, I will seek cover and hide for a moment (and I have become rather good at it). My mages/spellswords may do this more often, but my warriors almost never hide. They will fight until the bitter end. Frankly, almost nothing in SR scares my characters. My backstories almost always include a facet of being from SR in the first place (I play Nords 99% of the time) and usually from out of the way places where dealing with wolves, trolls, bears, etc... is simply a way of life. Dragons are just another facet of everything. None of my characters really want to kill dragons and I often just leave them be. They don't make me a target for long as something always distracts them. Even the ones at the word walls can be dealt with this way. I simply distract them with an antronach, take the word and treasure and saunter away. Once I have Kyne's peace and calm or pacify, I often do not even bother with the animals either. After all, why kill the critters when there are so many people to take my homicidal tendancies out on?

Fair enough, but its more fun sometimes if the character has a different mentality to the player. Sometimes its fun to think about alternative versions about your self as well if your reflecting yourself though
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
Have you ever considered that is immersion breaking? Haven't you considered character physiology into roleplay? My character is absolutely afraid of everything in Skyrim and terrified of Dragons, the only real he kills for them is purely because he is the Dragonborn and he would feel pressured if someone was watching; its like a sense he has to do it in his mind but not because he wants to do it. Other than that, he would simply run away and hide in a corner. You can't just have that mentality 'Oh hey! I'm going to kill you and not run away' unless your character is physiology damaged or depending on your roleplay...
For me, not really. My characters are rather reflective of myself as a person. I do not run away. It's just the way I am as a person and I would find it very difficult to act the coward and run away. I will admit that I am not stupid in the RP. If a battle is going poorly, I will seek cover and hide for a moment (and I have become rather good at it). My mages/spellswords may do this more often, but my warriors almost never hide. They will fight until the bitter end. Frankly, almost nothing in SR scares my characters. My backstories almost always include a facet of being from SR in the first place (I play Nords 99% of the time) and usually from out of the way places where dealing with wolves, trolls, bears, etc... is simply a way of life. Dragons are just another facet of everything. None of my characters really want to kill dragons and I often just leave them be. They don't make me a target for long as something always distracts them. Even the ones at the word walls can be dealt with this way. I simply distract them with an antronach, take the word and treasure and saunter away. Once I have Kyne's peace and calm or pacify, I often do not even bother with the animals either. After all, why kill the critters when there are so many people to take my homicidal tendancies out on?

Fair enough, but its more fun sometimes if the character has a different mentality to the player. Sometimes its fun to think about alternative versions about your self as well if your reflecting yourself though
I agree. I'm currently working on a Khajit character that I am finding very difficult. He's a bibiophile (he steals and collects books) and, overall a coward and avoids all confrontation at any cost. He is also limited in his contact with Humans and Mers as he fears them (there is an exception for Dunmer as his mentor is the Dunmer with the little cottage way out in the middle of nowhere in Whiterun hold - sorry, forgot his name). I've been playing him for almost 6 months now and he's only level 14 as the RP alone is exhausting and I always end up moving on to another character after just one evening's play, not because I don't like him, but as I find the RP so difficult. His name is Khem'El Murat
 

Chadonraz

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Several weeks ago I decided to explore Darkshade. Unfortunately for me there were literally TWO DOZEN Trolls there - not to mention a named boss one that had insane HP and was able to OHK me from full health. I must've died at least a dozen times - most of them to that named boss - and very nearly gave up on the dungeon.

In the end I managed to kill all of the regular Trolls. One of them was the dungeon's marked boss, so killing it = clearing the dungeon. That wasn't good enough, though, because there was still that super OP Troll left. Killing it took an additional ten minutes or so - and a few deaths. Its loot was definitely worth all the trouble, which was good because the boss chest was kinda crappy. :p
 
Well in a way my main characters' whole playthrough has been one big YOLO moment because when I made her, it was my first time playing Skyrim and I had no idea how the difficulty worked, so from level 1 on up to like, 40 or so when I learned better, I played her on Adept difficulty. Now that may not sound like much, but to put it in perspective: I was a Skyrim noob, playing a squishy mage with no racial benefits - my main is a Bosmer, not a Dunmer, High Elf or Breton, the so called "mage races"; though I gotta say Command Animal (the Bosmer racial ability fyi) saved my butt more than once. Did you know Command Animal works on trolls, but for a shorter amount of time than normal? I found that out the hard way lol.
I also didn't learn about magicka regen enchantments or Flesh spells until over level 20, so there was that. lmfao I was such a noob back then!
But besides all that, I can think of one event in particular where on the same above character I had a YOLO moment. I was re-playing through the Dawnguard DLC (had to due to a glitch), and I was going through the part of the Forgotten Vale where the Word Wall is and the twin dragons pop up out of the ice. Now I defeated them fairly easily on my last playthrough, so I wasn't expecting a huge challenge. Only I've gained quite a few levels since then - my character is level 63, almost 64 right now, and as we all know enemies scale to your level - and I've also upped my difficulty to Expert because of my character being a higher level and beating things a little to easy on Adept prior to this. Funnily enough I was just considering upping it to Master right before this. Good thing I didn't.
So anyway these twin dragons were hella hard for me to defeat this time. I died twice before I finally succeeded. It didn't help of course that Serana was in bleed out mode 5 minutes into the fight, and that my characters conjurations kept either timing out - and I was out of potions to extend the time by then - or got killed damn near instantly by dragon fire. What finally changed things around was me thinking to take advantage of the landscape. In desperation I healed Serana and summoned a Boneman Archer to take the twin dragons attention off me long enough to find some sort of shelter I could kite them from. Of course the only thing nearby was the wayshrine up on that stone hill, but it worked. The poor Prelate cowered the whole time, I felt so bad lol.
But this way I was able to hit it with some Dwarven Crossbow bolts and dodge back in. This combined with a few more summons and some poisons brought down the first dragon - at which point I made a save so I wouldn't have to do it all over again, a bit of a cheat I know but this was hard enough to accomplish IMO that it was warranted - and by then Serana had recovered and with her and my summons help, I was able to finish off the second. I'm not kidding you when I say it took me an hour to do this. I checked the time. I don't know how people play on Legendary and think that kinda thing is easy man. Seriously. Maybe it's because I don't really cheat - I don't use things like the resto loop or the trick to level your skills to 100 in one sitting or anything like that. I'm not saying anyone that plays on higher difficulties do, just explaining why maybe it's harder for me. I mean I don't even like using potions in mid-battle or Dragonrend on dragons, or saving in the middle of really hard battles so I don't have to do it all over. If I don't feel I have to I won't do that. Anyway so that was my YOLO moment. I could've easily left Serana behind and snuck off somewhere or even used the wayshrine to get out of combat and teleport away from the Vale. But after dying twice from those bastards I wasn't going to leave until I killed them both. And so I did. :)


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