Imperials or Stormcloaks, what one?

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Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
Well, in a way, even Elenwen says: "We only want what is best for Tamriel. Surely, the rebels will accept peace when they realize this."

That could very easily be translated to mean a Tamriel where Empire and Dominion can coexist. As we have now.

"We shall have peace. We shall have peace when you answer for the burning of Cyrodiil, and the children that lie dead there. When the lives of the soldiers, whose bodies were hewn even as they lay dead against the Gates of the Imperial City are avenged! When you hang from a gibbet, for the sport of your own crows, we shall have peace."


Oh my... the poor children. Next time my dear, I suggest you choose peace. Interesting comment, considering it's from lore outside of Skyrim and the tone of which is rather unbecoming of 4th era Imperials.

Your threats mean nothing. Your Empire will fall and there is not you can do about it except sit back and watch. Hell, your own Imperials would probably have you thrown in prison for addressing a Thalmor Justiciar in such a disgusting manner.

You need us. You need the WGC because your Empire failed, had we not succeeded, there would be no need for your Empire to choose to participate in the WGC. Those are the facts, which you claim to live by.

And I'm shor many a Thalmor said something similar when Septim visited the Isles. We're still here... how much longer will you be? The Stormcloaks will ruin whatever dreams you have, that's who I'd be more concerned about. Many people have already been influenced by Ulfric and that's lore now. Whatever happens to the Empire the Stormcloaks will influence the decision. Count on it.

You're right. Us Stormcloaks will ruin whatever dreams you Thalmor turds have. I guess you guys need to have a little history check as the last elves truly paid in the forfeit of their homeland, and the almost extinction of their race for pissing off a small group of Nords.

So tell me when we invade your homes who are you going to crawl to begging for help? Won't be the Dwemer ;)
 

Ancano

High Justiciar
"We shall have peace. We shall have peace when you answer for the burning of Cyrodiil, and the children that lie dead there. When the lives of the soldiers, whose bodies were hewn even as they lay dead against the Gates of the Imperial City are avenged! When you hang from a gibbet, for the sport of your own crows, we shall have peace."


Oh my... the poor children. Next time my dear, I suggest you choose peace. Interesting comment, considering it's from lore outside of Skyrim and the tone of which is rather unbecoming of 4th era Imperials.

Your threats mean nothing. Your Empire will fall and there is not you can do about it except sit back and watch. Hell, your own Imperials would probably have you thrown in prison for addressing a Thalmor Justiciar in such a disgusting manner.

You need us. You need the WGC because your Empire failed, had we not succeeded, there would be no need for your Empire to choose to participate in the WGC. Those are the facts, which you claim to live by.

And I'm shor many a Thalmor said something similar when Septim visited the Isles. We're still here... how much longer will you be? The Stormcloaks will ruin whatever dreams you have, that's who I'd be more concerned about. Many people have already been influenced by Ulfric and that's lore now. Whatever happens to the Empire the Stormcloaks will influence the decision. Count on it.

You're right. Us Stormcloaks will ruin whatever dreams you Thalmor turds have. I guess you guys need to have a little history check as the last elves truly paid in the forfeit of their homeland, and the almost extinction of their race for pissing off a small group of Nords.

So tell me when we invade your homes who are you going to crawl to begging for help? Won't be the Dwemer ;)


*Puffs warmly on a cigarette*

Then exhales...

Friendly smile :)
 
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Ancano

High Justiciar
*Puffs warmly on a cigarette*

Then exhales...

Friendly smile :)

Looks like Us Nords wont have to do a single thing considering the fact that the future will be lunge cancer for you. Keep sucking on those cancer sticks my Thalmor friend. Keep sucking on them until you start coughing up blood :D


They're imported from Kynes Grove. *Light's up another one*
 

Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
*Puffs warmly on a cigarette*

Then exhales...

Friendly smile :)

Looks like Us Nords wont have to do a single thing considering the fact that the future will be lunge cancer for you. Keep sucking on those cancer sticks my Thalmor friend. Keep sucking on them until you start coughing up blood :D


They're imported from Kynes Grove. *Light's up another one*

I'm afraid you're smoking mammoth plops. We've been switching your orders.
 

Ancano

High Justiciar
Looks like Us Nords wont have to do a single thing considering the fact that the future will be lunge cancer for you. Keep sucking on those cancer sticks my Thalmor friend. Keep sucking on them until you start coughing up blood :D


They're imported from Kynes Grove. *Light's up another one*

I'm afraid you're smoking mammoth pl***. We've been switching your orders.


Ashes, my friend. They're ashes.

Anyways, it doesn't matter. You should finally decide though whose side you're on. Later!
 
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Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
They're imported from Kynes Grove. *Light's up another one*

I'm afraid you're smoking mammoth pl***. We've been switching your orders.


Ashes, my friend. They're ashes.

Anyways, it doesn't matter. You should finally decide though whose side you're on. Later!

I'm proudly to say that I'm on the side of the Stormcloaks ;) No way would I ever side with such creatures who thinks they can tell others whose god they can and cannot worship.
 

DrunkenMage

Intoxicated Arch-Mage
I'm proudly to say that I'm on the side of the Stormcloaks ;) No way would I ever side with such creatures who thinks they can tell others whose god they can and cannot worship.

Nords have quite the history of telling others what God can and can't be worshipped, even going as far as burning foreign Priests at the stake.

The Imperial Cult (Priests of the Eight/Nine) was merely the most successful in converting majority of the citizens of Skyrim in the last two hundred years. Tiber Septim himself was pushing for the revival of the One (Alessian Order religion).

Stormcloaks and Imperials both tell the citizens of Skyrim how they should live. Forcing themselves onto each Hold and village with violence and sometimes massacres of the innocent populations.

The Stormcloaks themselves consider this to be a "Holy War", and quite frankly the other Divines seem to be getting pushed aside for Talos where even a Priestess of Talos tells the player "get that awful paper away from me" when given a pamphlet of Mara.

Now this is interesting because Mara is considered a traditional Nordic God, dating back to an aspect of animal worship and then as the handmaiden of Kyne.

Though it is strange you're against people telling you what religion to worship in public, but are fine with slavery of an ethnic group for the sake of profit.

Tekla: "But what about the banning of Talos worship? Isn't that worth fighting about?"
Narri: "I don't know about you, Tekla, but all my prayers are silent and who I pray to is still my own to decide."


Solution is right there, keep your prayers to yourself. Shame religion in our world isn't catching on, though I bet they'd complain about not being able to force their beliefs down everyone's throats and shout about all the sinners and infidels.

Religion and Politics never mix, at least the Empire was separate from the Imperial Cult. Stormcloaks basically are a Talos Cult and Government.

Be pretty cool to see an Alessian Order 2.0 in TES though.
 
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Ancano

High Justiciar
I'm afraid you're smoking mammoth pl***. We've been switching your orders.


Ashes, my friend. They're ashes.

Anyways, it doesn't matter. You should finally decide though whose side you're on. Later!

I'm proudly to say that I'm on the side of the Stormcloaks ;) No way would I ever side with such creatures who thinks they can tell others whose god they can and cannot worship.


Yeah and so you ally yourself with Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. *Irony*

Do not make the mistake of thinking you're smarter than us simply because you have the "bleeding heart syndrome".

Thalmor are going to take all your Nord pride and good intentions and shove them up your arse while somehow ripping out your soul with it.

You had better hope the Empire survives this to keep Skyrim safe. Because so far, the Empire even in it's current state is the only thing proven capable of holding back the Thalmor. And the Stormcloaks have been proven they can be used as a tool of the Thalmor. With deals being made behind closed doors. Although there's a world of difference between being used and signing an agreement face to face.

Ulfric taking bribes and assistance from Thalmor operatives and yet leading a crusade against them is the worst corruption of all. Lease as far as man is concerned. And I'm not really shor that he isn't aware this is happening.

The proof is in the Dossier. If Ulfric cared about the collective instead of his own ambition it would have been more difficult for the Thalmor to use him. Stormcloaks are nothing more than proxies and are stripped of any other choice whereas Imperials still have the power to make different choices in their policy.

About the Elves being creatures and me coughing up blood, mammoth dung, etc... some people like to hide behind their insecurities by trying to paint someone else as being weak, incompetent, retarded, loser and so many other things... however you're a terrible artist. :D

Hah. Annnd I think that answers the big question. Well, one of them at least. Hahaha
 
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General Charles Xander

General of the 11th Imperial Legion
Perhaps if the Thalmor did take over, the Stormcloaks would finally recognize who their true enemy is.
Or if they take their heads out of their arses... :p
 

The Honorable Gidian Diva of Sass

Sahrot Vahlok Spaan. Bahnahgaar. Minion #88!
Staff member
Ashes, my friend. They're ashes.

Anyways, it doesn't matter. You should finally decide though whose side you're on. Later!

I'm proudly to say that I'm on the side of the Stormcloaks ;) No way would I ever side with such creatures who thinks they can tell others whose god they can and cannot worship.


Yeah and so you ally yourself with Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. *Irony*

Do not make the mistake of thinking you're smarter than us simply because you have the "bleeding heart syndrome".

Thalmor are going to take all your Nord pride and good intentions and shove them up your arse while somehow ripping out your soul with it.

You had better hope the Empire survives this to keep Skyrim safe. Because so far, the Empire even in it's current state is the only thing proven capable of holding back the Thalmor. And the Stormcloaks have been proven they can be used as a tool of the Thalmor. With deals being made behind closed doors. Although there's a world of difference between being used and signing an agreement face to face.

Ulfric taking bribes and assistance from Thalmor operatives and yet leading a crusade against them is the worst corruption of all. Lease as far as man is concerned. And I'm not really shor that he isn't aware this is happening.

The proof is in the Dossier. If Ulfric cared about the collective instead of his own ambition it would have been more difficult for the Thalmor to use him. Stormcloaks are nothing more than proxies and are stripped of any other choice whereas Imperials still have the power to make different choices in their policy.

About the Elves being creatures and me coughing up blood, mammoth dung, etc... some people like to hide behind their insecurities by trying to paint someone else as being weak, incompetent, retarded, loser and so many other things... however you're a terrible artist. :D

Hah. Annnd I think that answers the big question. Well, one of them at least. Hahaha
Why are you still here? Didn't you say "Later" a few posts ago, as in you're leaving? Your contributions have been lacking lately and thus it seems you're posting in here just for the sake of posting. You can't even stay in character with your namesake, and went as far as bringing in MTV! Seriously.
 

Ancano

High Justiciar
I'm proudly to say that I'm on the side of the Stormcloaks ;) No way would I ever side with such creatures who thinks they can tell others whose god they can and cannot worship.


Yeah and so you ally yourself with Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. *Irony*

Do not make the mistake of thinking you're smarter than us simply because you have the "bleeding heart syndrome".

Thalmor are going to take all your Nord pride and good intentions and shove them up your arse while somehow ripping out your soul with it.

You had better hope the Empire survives this to keep Skyrim safe. Because so far, the Empire even in it's current state is the only thing proven capable of holding back the Thalmor. And the Stormcloaks have been proven they can be used as a tool of the Thalmor. With deals being made behind closed doors. Although there's a world of difference between being used and signing an agreement face to face.

Ulfric taking bribes and assistance from Thalmor operatives and yet leading a crusade against them is the worst corruption of all. Lease as far as man is concerned. And I'm not really shor that he isn't aware this is happening.

The proof is in the Dossier. If Ulfric cared about the collective instead of his own ambition it would have been more difficult for the Thalmor to use him. Stormcloaks are nothing more than proxies and are stripped of any other choice whereas Imperials still have the power to make different choices in their policy.

About the Elves being creatures and me coughing up blood, mammoth dung, etc... some people like to hide behind their insecurities by trying to paint someone else as being weak, incompetent, retarded, loser and so many other things... however you're a terrible artist. :D

Hah. Annnd I think that answers the big question. Well, one of them at least. Hahaha
Why are you still here? Didn't you say "Later" a few posts ago, as in you're leaving? Your contributions have been lacking lately and thus it seems you're posting in here just for the sake of posting. You can't even stay in character with your namesake, and went as far as bringing in MTV! Seriously.


Insecurities ^

Not to mention how you haven't posted on here at all for a very long time. But hey, I guess it must be easier to just agree with everyone. :D

I didn't want to leave without saying 'goodbye'.
 

The Honorable Gidian Diva of Sass

Sahrot Vahlok Spaan. Bahnahgaar. Minion #88!
Staff member
Yeah and so you ally yourself with Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. *Irony*

Do not make the mistake of thinking you're smarter than us simply because you have the "bleeding heart syndrome".

Thalmor are going to take all your Nord pride and good intentions and shove them up your arse while somehow ripping out your soul with it.

You had better hope the Empire survives this to keep Skyrim safe. Because so far, the Empire even in it's current state is the only thing proven capable of holding back the Thalmor. And the Stormcloaks have been proven they can be used as a tool of the Thalmor. With deals being made behind closed doors. Although there's a world of difference between being used and signing an agreement face to face.

Ulfric taking bribes and assistance from Thalmor operatives and yet leading a crusade against them is the worst corruption of all. Lease as far as man is concerned. And I'm not really shor that he isn't aware this is happening.

The proof is in the Dossier. If Ulfric cared about the collective instead of his own ambition it would have been more difficult for the Thalmor to use him. Stormcloaks are nothing more than proxies and are stripped of any other choice whereas Imperials still have the power to make different choices in their policy.

About the Elves being creatures and me coughing up blood, mammoth dung, etc... some people like to hide behind their insecurities by trying to paint someone else as being weak, incompetent, retarded, loser and so many other things... however you're a terrible artist. :D

Hah. Annnd I think that answers the big question. Well, one of them at least. Hahaha
Why are you still here? Didn't you say "Later" a few posts ago, as in you're leaving? Your contributions have been lacking lately and thus it seems you're posting in here just for the sake of posting. You can't even stay in character with your namesake, and went as far as bringing in MTV! Seriously.


Insecurities ^

Not to mention how you haven't posted on here at all for a very long time. But hey, I guess it must be easier to just agree with everyone. :D

I didn't want to leave without saying 'goodbye'.
Goodbye.
 

General Charles Xander

General of the 11th Imperial Legion
Needless to say, I believe it's pointless to attach that video. If you say anything regarding or related to that video, everyone knows what you are talking about. Seriously. But that's just me ranting. :D
 

Ancano

High Justiciar
Needless to say, I believe it's pointless to attach that video. If you say anything regarding or related to that video, everyone knows what you are talking about. Seriously. But that's just me ranting. :D


Yeah. That's fair. I will replace it with something more... appropriate. Well, you know I would always refer to Jarl B as a rap star.

And I'm not leaving for the sake of any party here. I have my reasons which really have more to do with logistics (or the lack thereof) rather than anything else. So, ok then enough. Last post.

You know, I used to really, I mean REALLY defend the Empire. It was uncanny. Hmmm. Oh I know :) Enjoy!!! :D




For Auld Lang Syne
 
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Lewsean

Member
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Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
Nords have quite the history of telling others what God can and can't be worshipped, even going as far as burning foreign Priests at the stake.

The Imperial Cult (Priests of the Eight/Nine) was merely the most successful in converting majority of the citizens of Skyrim in the last two hundred years. Tiber Septim himself was pushing for the revival of the One (Alessian Order religion).

Stormcloaks and Imperials both tell the citizens of Skyrim how they should live. Forcing themselves onto each Hold and village with violence and sometimes massacres of the innocent populations.

The Stormcloaks themselves consider this to be a "Holy War", and quite frankly the other Divines seem to be getting pushed aside for Talos where even a Priestess of Talos tells the player "get that awful paper away from me" when given a pamphlet of Mara.

Now this is interesting because Mara is considered a traditional Nordic God, dating back to an aspect of animal worship and then as the handmaiden of Kyne.

Though it is strange you're against people telling you what religion to worship in public, but are fine with slavery of an ethnic group for the sake of profit.

Tekla: "But what about the banning of Talos worship? Isn't that worth fighting about?"
Narri: "I don't know about you, Tekla, but all my prayers are silent and who I pray to is still my own to decide."


Solution is right there, keep your prayers to yourself. Shame religion in our world isn't catching on, though I bet they'd complain about not being able to force their beliefs down everyone's throats and shout about all the sinners and infidels.

Religion and Politics never mix, at least the Empire was separate from the Imperial Cult. Stormcloaks basically are a Talos Cult and Government.

Be pretty cool to see an Alessian Order 2.0 in TES though.

Since I'm a little rusty on the lore can you send me a link to this history of the Nords telling others what gods they can and cannot worship? Who were these Priests that they were burning to the steak? What religion were they worshiping? While the Stormcloaks sole religion is Talos I do not see them pushing the other Divines to the side. I might be wrong, but I do not have to be pro Nord for me to be Pro Stormcloak.


About the Priestess of Talos in Riften I wouldn't take her dialogue too seriously with regards to Mara. Everyone is overly emotional at this point. The Empire essentially surrendered to the Aldmeri Dominion to end the Great war at a great price of banning a popular religion that was the heart of the Empire itself. Everyone is on edge fearing what will come next.


Who is this ethnic group you speak of? I assume you're talking about the Forsworn, right? The ethic group that goes around murdering innocent travelers? While I do not fully support the Silver-bloods I do support the concept of enslaving criminals for profit. The Forsworn do not have my sympathy, not a drop of tear. One Forsworn in particular said in the prison that if he gets out the first thing hes going to do is to kill a random Nord.


There is a huge difference between RL religion and the religion that takes place in The elders scrolls :) I don't need to explain much, but Elders scrolls gods are actually real considering the fictional gods in real life ;) I wont speak much on that matters because I would be sure to offend the religious people here ;)
 

Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
Yeah and so you ally yourself with Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak. *Irony*

Do not make the mistake of thinking you're smarter than us simply because you have the "bleeding heart syndrome".

Thalmor are going to take all your Nord pride and good intentions and shove them up your arse while somehow ripping out your soul with it.

You had better hope the Empire survives this to keep Skyrim safe. Because so far, the Empire even in it's current state is the only thing proven capable of holding back the Thalmor. And the Stormcloaks have been proven they can be used as a tool of the Thalmor. With deals being made behind closed doors. Although there's a world of difference between being used and signing an agreement face to face.

Ulfric taking bribes and assistance from Thalmor operatives and yet leading a crusade against them is the worst corruption of all. Lease as far as man is concerned. And I'm not really shor that he isn't aware this is happening.

The proof is in the Dossier. If Ulfric cared about the collective instead of his own ambition it would have been more difficult for the Thalmor to use him. Stormcloaks are nothing more than proxies and are stripped of any other choice whereas Imperials still have the power to make different choices in their policy.

About the Elves being creatures and me coughing up blood, mammoth dung, etc... some people like to hide behind their insecurities by trying to paint someone else as being weak, incompetent, retarded, loser and so many other things... however you're a terrible artist. :D

Hah. Annnd I think that answers the big question. Well, one of them at least. Hahaha


I'm starting to love you my Thalmor friend. Keep me much entertained with your fairy tales and fantasies.
 

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