Men or Mer? Who was first?

Nyoxios said:

Kohlar the Unkilled said:

I like to imagine that the humanoids of Nirn, (and many of the animals as well), come from Earth. They arrived on a multi-generational ship, an "arc" that departed from Earth during a time of colonial expansion. The event is so distant in their past, all that remains is lore and myth.

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Where would the Elves be coming from then? Another planet or are they native from Nirn?

I like the idea, as the Nords call themselves Children from the Skies.

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Nyoxios said:

Kohlar the Unkilled said:

I like to imagine that the humanoids of Nirn, (and many of the animals as well), come from Earth. They arrived on a multi-generational ship, an "arc" that departed from Earth during a time of colonial expansion. The event is so distant in their past, all that remains is lore and myth.

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Where would the Elves be coming from then? Another planet or are they native from Nirn?

I like the idea, as the Nords call themselves Children from the Skies.

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hershangames said:

Wow. Just wow. Best theory ever.
You may actually be right, but then, what about dwarven? Would they be humans that kept technology?

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-The Ice Queen- said:

According to Shoddycast (I don't know where he gets his information) the High Elves believe they were actually gods cast down by...Lorkhan, I think? Have to look at that post again.

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Kohlar the Unkilled said:

Nyoxios said:

Kohlar the Unkilled said:

I like to imagine that the humanoids of Nirn, (and many of the animals as well), come from Earth. They arrived on a multi-generational ship, an "arc" that departed from Earth during a time of colonial expansion. The event is so distant in their past, all that remains is lore and myth.

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Where would the Elves be coming from then? Another planet or are they native from Nirn?

I like the idea, as the Nords call themselves Children from the Skies.

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Well, in such a far future, genetic engineering would be relatively common among humans. It's not a stretch that after generations of reengineering, people would begin to look different. So the elves are us, in the far future. On a generation ship, there would be factions of somewhat different looking people. So the more liberal individuals might even decide to make themselves more adapted to the environments of their future home, which explains the Argonians and Khajiit, (and even the Monkey and Snake people of Akavir). The more conservative folk would've preserved the human form we all know and love.

It's also not a stretch to imagine all of the advanced technology falling by the wayside once the new planet is inhabited; those people coming from such a high tech world might prefer to enjoy a simpler existence. Of course people are people, so differences would lead to conflict, and separation. But certain technological devices may have survived late into the history of people, as I surmise from reading "Warp in the West," an in-game text which describes a magical item used to Obliterate and forever change the Iliac bay region. Could the device have been nuclear in nature? Read the book and see what you think.

I've been planning to elaborate on my theory, and perhaps even compose a story of the whole thing.

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DrunkenMage said:

Kohlar the Unkilled said:

Nyoxios said:

Where would the Elves be coming from then? Another planet or are they native from Nirn?

I like the idea, as the Nords call themselves Children from the Skies.

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Well, in such a far future, genetic engineering would be relatively common among humans. It's not a stretch that after generations of reengineering, people would begin to look different. So the elves are us, in the far future. On a generation ship, there would be factions of somewhat different looking people. So the more liberal individuals might even decide to make themselves more adapted to the environments of their future home, which explains the Argonians and Khajiit, (and even the Monkey and Snake people of Akavir). The more conservative folk would've preserved the human form we all know and love.

It's also not a stretch to imagine all of the advanced technology falling by the wayside once the new planet is inhabited; those people coming from such a high tech world might prefer to enjoy a simpler existence. Of course people are people, so differences would lead to conflict, and separation. But certain technological devices may have survived late into the history of people, as I surmise from reading "Warp in the West," an in-game text which describes a magical item used to Obliterate and forever change the Iliac bay region. Could the device have been nuclear in nature? Read the book and see what you think.

I've been planning to elaborate on my theory, and perhaps even compose a story of the whole thing.

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How would they get into Mundas? It is inside a bubble; surrounded by Oblivion, Aetherius and the Void.

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Kohlar the Unkilled said:

Really?! And they know this how? The celestial spheres come to mind. Socrates was convinced of the validity of the celestial spheres. How wrong was he?

Edit: I'm getting ahead of myself and everyone else. Let's just say that the lore is certainly open to inerpretation. My theory explains much though.

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DrunkenMage said:

Kohlar the Unkilled said:

Really?! And they know this how? The celestial spheres come to mind. Socrates was convinced of the validity of the celestial spheres. How wrong was he?

Edit: I'm getting ahead of myself and everyone else. Let's just say that the lore is certainly open to inerpretation. My theory explains much though.

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It is quite well known, given the ability to question Dremora and how souls work. Also with CHIM, when you're able to shape the world any way you desire and do anything you can imagine. The most simple way I can think of to explain the universe of TES is like you're inside the Matrix.

Men and Mer were descended from the Ehlnofey who were the Et'Ada that remained behind.

There is no star that is the sun, what you see is a hole that was created by Magnus when he left Mundas behind. The stars are smaller holes left by other Et'Ada that fled.

That is how and why you can do magic, it flows into Mundas from the tears into Aetherius through the "sun" and "stars". It is also why the stars under which a person is born has great influence over their fortunes and fate. The towers around Tamriel keep Mundas from dissolving back into Oblivion.

There is no universe beyond, no galaxy and billions of planets.

Pretty interesting stuff that Bethesda came up with and if you're interesting in reading about it:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mundus
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aetherius
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Magic
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Souls
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Void
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aurbis
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nirn
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Planes_of_Existence
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ehlnofey

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Rimfaxe96 said:

Once read somewhere that there were leftovers found from earlier human civilizations, even earlier than the Nedes. I vote humans; Elves got their through Summerset, and even there they sailed - Lorkhan on the other hand was said to have led "his humans" into almost every corner of Nirn, chasing after his enemies.

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-The Ice Queen- said:

Rimfaxe96 said:

Once read somewhere that there were leftovers found from earlier human civilizations, even earlier than the Nedes. I vote humans; Elves got their through Summerset, and even there they sailed - Lorkhan on the other hand was said to have led "his humans" into almost every corner of Nirn, chasing after his enemies.

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Do you happen to have a source for that? I'd be much interested in reading that. If not, don't worry about it.

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Rimfaxe96 said:

-The Ice Queen- said:

Rimfaxe96 said:

Once read somewhere that there were leftovers found from earlier human civilizations, even earlier than the Nedes. I vote humans; Elves got their through Summerset, and even there they sailed - Lorkhan on the other hand was said to have led "his humans" into almost every corner of Nirn, chasing after his enemies.

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Do you happen to have a source for that? I'd be much interested in reading that. If not, don't worry about it.

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... Lorkhan made armies out of the weakest souls and named them Men, and they brought Sithis into every quarter. [...] Auriel could not save Altmora, the Elder Wood, and it was lost to Men. They were chased south and east to Old Ehlnofey, and Lorkhan was close behind. He shattered that land into many. ...

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/monomyth-altmeri-heart-world

Spent the last 30 minutes browsing through the library to find the text about that scholar finding traces of earlier human civilization than the Nedes but failed. It was some letter from Elder Scrolls Online.

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shadowkitty said:

You are all wrong.


It was the chicken that came first.

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